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Patriot Defense is the answer. I sent them four barrels and had them back exactly 1 week to the day from when I sent them.
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No need to convert to SAO. Just put a magwell on it and start cocked/locked. Not much difference in the SA trigger pull and you'll have second strike just in case. Depending on your trigger expectations you can play with springs only or two the whole CGW pro kit for best results.
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On 8/31/2024 at 7:50 AM, lamelogin said:
There are at least two "new" triggers. Which one are we talking about? I see reference to both in this chain so far..
Hybrid: https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/czc-hybrid-da-trigger.html
Hybrid Flat: https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/czc-hybrid-flat-da-trigger.html
As far as I can tell, they are the same except the "hybrid flat" has a flat cut on the front of it for your finger pad. I went with the standard hybrid and am happy with it. -
I suppose I would if I was having some kind of problem related to the extractor, but otherwise I would just shoot it and not worry about it. Two seasons without doing this and haven't had any problems on my S2...
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35 minutes ago, 21 shooter said:
Thanks for your response. It looks like 1.060 is plunk test seating depth in my barrel. I checked on Patriot Defense and it seems they won’t work on Shadow 2 nitrided barrels.
Haven't gotten down to look at my data yet, but PD definitely does CZ barrels. They just have two different listings; one for most barrels, and one for harder barrels. The link below should be what you need. I sent them four barrels on a Monday and had them back the following Monday, but YMMV.
https://patriotdefense.com/patriot-defense-9mm-barrel-reaming-hard-coating-melonite-dlc/ -
11 hours ago, 21 shooter said:
I am loading for a Shadow 2 and got some of the Precision Delta 124 gr V2’s to try out. I wanted to see what others have found to work best for them including OAL. I’m looking for 128-130 PF, just some mid-range to upper end loads. I use VV N320 for most 9mm ammo and I’m trying some 330 as well. I like PD bullets but not so much the necessity to load short for the CZ although I do like the accuracy of it.
edited to add I have run Zero 147 JHP at 1.135 with 3.5 N320 and accuracy was good with minimal recoil but the profile of it is different compared to the PD 124.
I'll double check later and get back to you, but I believe I'm somewhere in the vicinity of 4.1gr at 1.10" OAL and hit ~1080 FPS average in my S2. That's with Prima V and my charges of that powder have typically been within ~0.1gr of my N320 charges in 9mm.
With N330, you should be looking at a charge around 4.7-4.9gr, but that is going to give you a higher PF than you say you are shooting for, probably just under 140PF. You can load to a lower PF, but it's a slower powder and is quite dirty until you hit a certain point, then becomes very clean. N320 is better for gun games, IMHO.
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15 hours ago, AZ123456 said:
Thanks for the input. I'm currently running the Eemann flat trigger. I like it but the DA pull starts very far forward. I thought I might be able to get a similar SA position from the CZC trigger without the long DA reach. I'm going to order the CZC hybrid.
The CZC doesn't feel as far out for the initial DA pull, and either as a result of that or some other angle changes, the DA pull actually feels slightly easier to me.
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Thanks for the info everyone.
On 7/13/2024 at 2:48 PM, waktasz said:I get 24 in my tanfo mags.
Been having weird similar issues to you with my CZ p10c though. Ended up using the grams 13 coil springs. Those mags only ever got 23 rounds and still do with the 13 coil spring, and feeding is way stronger.
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I had been running an Eemann Tech Ultimate, but tried one of these out for the heck of it and do like it better. Safe to say that you can take out a hair more pre and over travel with the screws(and I do mean a hair), but I've seen them come loose on other shooters at least 2-3x at matches so I'd rather have the peace of mind. That aside, I do prefer the profile and how it feels shooting it as well.
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Agree, OAL, then powder. Try to find one that feeds smoothly in all of the pistols you intend to shoot it in, then make sure that the OAL that feeds the best overall also plunks in all of them. After that, move on to powder.
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On 7/12/2024 at 12:13 PM, cpekz said:
That's good to hear, thanks! I'm in the same boat, currently running an S2 but looking to make the switch. I have a Stock 2 OR but not a fan of the optic mounting system. I'm planning to run an optic on a dovetail mount on the SM X initially, and then assuming I stick with the Tanfo I'll probably end up sending it off to Patriot Defense for milling.
Patriot Defense is who did my milling and that of the local shooter I referenced; They are great to do business with. I actually ordered my Stock Master Xtreme from them and just had them ream the barrel and mill the slide for the optic before they even shipped it. The larger frame fits my hand better than the S2, but more importantly, it points more like a 2011 to me.
My main problem has been an issue with the large frame magazines turning into salt shakers on me. Seems once the follower goes under the vent ribs on the magazines, two rounds can get stuck side by side in those tubes. I got the Patriot Defense K9 baseplates and replaced the Hennings I tried first and seem to be having better luck. One thing that seemed to help is taking the Grams followers and bend them so they point up more than how they come, and then back and to the left. Getting 22+1 now and haven't had one go salt shaker on me yet. -
Agree with Yagi, you should be good to go. Local Tanfo sponsored GM shoots the same setup and goes to all the big matches without issues. Also what I'm working on transitioning to from a Shadow 2, just working out the kinks with magazines and such now.
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6 hours ago, 392heminut said:
Xtreme cases are brass plated steel! You can pick them up with a magnet.
Didn't check with a magnet, but like I said, there were several headstamps that did that and I know the others weren't plated steel. Ultimately, I buy mixed brass like 99% of pistol reloaders, and am not going to spend the time sorting it by hand just to use a die that eliminates the "wasp waist". -
Roll sizing makes a big difference for 9mm. Other than that, I've had the best luck with the Dillon 9mm sizing die or Lee U-Die that others have mentioned. I like the MA non-sizing dies, but unfortunately my MA 9mm sizing die came with imperfections that scratched the brass bad. I polished them out only to find that a few headstamps(can't remember all of them, but Xtreme was one I think) weren't being sized enough and I could push the projectiles down into the case with light finger pressure.
Outside of rollsizing and a decent undersized sizing die, a crimp die that keeps stuff in check by going over the whole loaded round instead of just the shoulder helps too. The Lee FCD does this and I've also had good luck with the MA crimp die in my last station. IMHO, sometimes the failures are caused by the projectile seating ever-so-slightly crooked and these types of dies sort of straighten it back up if that happens. -
2 minutes ago, Cltpewpew said:
Local shop has has 1lb jugs. I guess mostly being cheap since buying 1lb increases cost a decent amount.
I don't blame you, I don't buy 1lb's for the same reason.Either way, we are now at a point where you need to start generating load data for a few different powders and find some alternatives that you can get by with, because I doubt we're going to be able to reliably get the exact ones we want over the next 1-2 years at least.
For standard 9mm USPSA loads, I've had good luck with several different powders. My order of preference would be N320>Prima SV>Prima V>CSB1M>Win238/HP38>Titegroup. Unfortunately, they don't import the Vectan PrimaV/SV anymore
At 13.99lb when I was getting it, I wish I had stocked up like a madman...
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12 hours ago, Cltpewpew said:
Local shop sells at 159 4 lb jug. Couple months ago.
I stopped by Grafs just yesterday on my way back from Kansas City and bought a 4lb. Didn't need it, but hearing lots of rumblings about the shortage of nitrocellulose. You might find that your local joint isn't as cheap as it used to be next time they have it either...Grafs was something like 168 a very short time ago...it's all jumping again.
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Slide Milling
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Can confirm, normal without a plate on these pistols. Don't like the way it looks, but haven't had any problems.
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On the harder end to ignite(think CCI), a bit harder to seat than most if you aren't swaging primer pockets. All properly seated ones go bang in my experience.
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18 hours ago, LordManHammer said:
I just opened a new box (my second box of 3600) of PD V2 124 JHP. Lots and lots of debris in the bag and stuck in the hollow point. I just ignore it. Hasn't been a problem for me.
Same with my most recent order. Doesn't seem to matter on paper, though I do prefer them to be prettier lol. -
I lock my slide back and use an oil pen to apply some oil to the barrel and rails, then I pull a bore snake through the barrel and wipe up the feed ramp a bit every 4-5 local matches. I'll detail clean before a major, or maybe 1 time a year otherwise. In my experience, there is no real reason to clean them every couple hundred rounds...
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HHDG is good, IMHO, and I know they can make custom lenses for some other popular frames as mentioned above. Early on, I took the super cheap route and had my eye doc make some lens for safety frames they had. They scuffed easy and just didn't last very long.
I ended up with a HHDG certificate off a prize table and gave it a go. End product is much better than my choice the first time around. They were super responsive and easy to work with. -
I sent a couple CZ and Canik barrels to Patriot Defense to be reamed. Had them back a week from when I sent them out and no more issues having to load super short. Would do business with them again.
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I concur, around 3.5gr with a 135gr. Usually somewhere between 4 and 4.2 for the 125gr.
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I also ordered a MA die set and was thoroughly disappointed with the sizing die, though I liked the mandrel, seating, and crimp dies.
As mentioned, the sizing die was scratching brass pretty bad, which I corrected with steps mentioned above. Awesome, now I was in business - right up until I realized that there are about 2-3 headstamps in my mixed brass that don't have enough neck tension after being sized. I can press the bullet into the case with just finger tension.
So, needless to say, I just went back to the Dillon sizing die that has worked great for me in the past. At this point, I say just embrace the wasp waist...
At 13.99lb when I was getting it, I wish I had stocked up like a madman...
Shadow 2 Recoil Spring weights?
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ColoradoNick is right. I used an 11lb for a while, but ultimately landed with 12lb even though it's not as easy to rack as other pistols or spring combos. It's reliable and returns to zero without dipping. I just grab back by the optic when I need to rack with my CZ's. A lot of people seem to go lighter, but there are a lot of factors. IE, a lot of people shoot 147's loaded pretty light and I do 124's that aren't quite factory, but aren't powder puffs either...