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I use short colts with 147 Xtremes ... (the .357 ones) ... Loaded at 1.16 w/ 3.8grs Unique makes 130pf easy. Nice pointed bullet (no matter what the length of your brass) ... w/ short colt ... any standard 147/9mm load works. http://www.xtremebullets.com/9mm-147-RN-357-p/xc9mm-357-147rn-b0500.htm (buy 'em when they are on sale). Sometimes use 147 (150gr) blue bullets too ... (not quite as pointy) ... edit: I went to short colts when I changed to a weak hand reload cause the specials (when dumping the cylinder) were hanging up on the cylinder release. Never tried the long colts ... guess they would have solved the problem too. Using the short colt let me use standard 9mm reloading data.

Wow!! You calculated the hypotenuse ... cool ... thanks!! Yeah ... both the roundabout targets ...

I apologize in advance if this horse has died several times in the past ... or if it doesn't even belong here. Having come up dry using "search" I just have to ask ... USPSA rules state clearly that metal targets should not be engaged closer than 23 feet (2.1.3 / 10.5.17) ... it's a DQ. I know "Steel Challenge" is under USPSA's wing ... (it is on it's website anyhow!!) ... and that it has it's own rulebook ... but ... There are three (Steel Challenge) courses of fire that employ targets closer than 23 feet. 5 to Go has one at 21' Roundabout has two at 21' Smoke and Hope has two at 21' I am a pretty new shooter but have seen at least one matche (level 1 USPSA) where starting was delayed to correct a stage employing a piece of steel at 7 yards. I was just getting ready to shoot a Steel Challenge match and the 21' steel just popped out at me ... I wonder if anyone ever requested bringing the USPSA rule to 21' for a little consistency ... (easy to remember too)???

Yeah ... it just drops in the Dillon powder die like the Dillon powder funnel does ... Watch the video!!

Check out the video on the mrbulletfeeder powder funnel ... They cost $40 but IMHO the best thing I ever did to my 650. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICDMj0MJUXU I use a lee seater and actually got a pretty good adjustment that worked fine with the Dillon funnel but always had to keep my eye (and sometimes my finger) on those guys as they moved to the next position ... With the MBF funnel it is something I never ever worry about anymore ... Lotsa threads and testimonials on these guys ...

+1 I have been using the Double Alpha (Mr Bullet Feeder) 9 and 40 powder funnels as well (with both coated and plated bullets ... and I don't even have a bullet feeder). You drop the bullet in and it isn't going anywhere.

I have been using the AZShooters site for some time and it has always been dead on ... down to the last decimal point. Check out the percentages it has for any classifiers you have already shot ... including the one you are waiting to post ... Do this by putting in your USPSA number in the "USPSA Shooter Stats" box at the top right side of the page (put an "A" in front of your number ... ) https://azshooters.org/

Go here and bring up any classifier you want ... It will show the HF class boundaries for all divisions on the same page (don't look like 90% to me). https://azshooters.org/

Getting worried now ... With the 2.0 pistols out ... and being pushed out pretty well with aggressive pricing/incentives etc. It seems like a foolish endeavor for any business to invest too much time in the development and production of a "long slide" for an obsolete pistol (1.0 M&P) Hopefully ... it won't be such a big deal to get them out for both ... (perhaps nothing different other than the machining for the slide stop) ... and ... I hope my worries are completely unfounded as there are slides being produced for early generations of Glocks etc. Perhaps the base of 1.0s out there is sufficient to make it worth their while.

Nooo ... nooo ... "YOU" have to be a "Match Champion" in order to be able to fire this thing using 357 factory ammo without acquiring a life long debilitating flinch. Now ... if they made it in 32S&W long it would be the perfect little range plinker.

Bullet Works - plated ... as cheap as coated. http://www.thebulletworks.net/category-s/137.htm

http://www.pistoleer.com/jetloader/

I do the same thing but don't have to worry about making "B" too soon (congratulations on a great start). Anyhow ... my first shot is usually at the lower center of the A box and my second directly below it in D city. I noticed pretty quickly that I was mentally centering my shots on the center of the body of the target (USPSA metric) ... and if you measure you will see that the center of the bottom 24 inches (ignoring the head) you are only an inch above the bottom of the A zone. It doesn't take much to pull the second shot into a C or worse. I figured at least while I'm working on the problem I can score a bit higher if I remember to aim higher on the body of the target.

I love this rule … (naw ...) The year they started allowing 8 shot revolvers I got one and while attempting to set up a belt to use for both USPSA "and" ICORE … I also got to do a lot of research on the "heel" of the butt. Using a "muzzle forward" cant with the revolver only added to the fun. … because … (as already stated) USPSA requires the heel be above the top of the belt but ICORE requires it to be above the bottom of the belt. USPSA - 5.2.7.2 - (may not commence w/) A holster with the heel of the butt of the handgun below the top of the belt … ICORE - 5.4 - The heel of the butt of the gun is not allowed below the bottom of the belt.

Just renewed ... sort of ... Around the second week of May I realized that my membership was going to expire in less than 4 weeks. I had put a reminder on my calendar but set it at the expiration date instead of advance … (bad move ...). Anyhow … I looked at some old emails … went to the web site and determined that the only way to get the renewal done (this year) was to mail it in. There was a warning on the downloaded form that it could take 6-12 weeks or longer … sigh … Now I was worried as I was registered for a couple of "bigger" matches (on Practiscore) and worried how screwed this might get if I somehow popped up as "inactive" (yikes!!). On May 13th I mailed the form (was the same form as I had used previously) … As my expiration date passed I kept watching my "status" on the ICORE site and I remained active. I figured I would wait at least until June 13th (a full month) before I bothered the Membership Director. While this was going on (seeing no confirmation my app/check had gone anywhere) I re-checked the address I had used and realized there was a completely different address on the current application. After checking that out it looks like the new app w/ the new address appeared about four days after I mailed in my renewal (sweating and worry increases). Finally … on June 12th the canceled check appeared on my bank app. I still don't have a card with a new expiration date but that's OK … I have a copy of the canceled check. I figured they must be getting some things straightened out .. as they are using a new (membership) address and such and I would leave them alone (give them a chance to do their thing). I will say … I appreciate seeing the classifiers showing up (posted) like in three days or less after a match now … It used to take a long time. I would like to feel a lot more warm and fuzzy when doing this sort of thing but it is getting done and I appreciate the volunteer effort. (If I would have made it to the 13th I would have sent the guy an email … no biggie).

I load both 180 Blue Bullets and Bullet Works 180 (plated) at 1.15 and they work great in both the M&P and my Para Pro Custom. I "did" have a similar problem when my M&P was brand new and running the factory recoil spring ... (looked just like that!!). Moved down to 13lb spring and "no problem" and now running an 11lb since the 40s are loaded way down for Production anyhow.

I know you said you didn't want a whole gun ... but ... some of these turn-ins are getting so cheap it's almost academic. Here is one for $329.95 ... a 9mm w/ a 4.25 slide ... https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=8633&name=LEO+Trade-In+Smith+%26+Wesson+M%26P9+9mm+Handgun I'm sure there are plenty more around ... and more available all the time ... I can't believe you couldn't unload the lower for $50+ ... to some Production guy that would be glad to have an extra ... outfitted /w a FSS trigger / magwell etc ... when needed and allow them to swap back to their Production legal lower as desired.

Accidentally stumbled on some more 40 magazines again today if anyone is still looking for a few extras. This site has some interesting 9 and 40 LE turn-ins too (4.25 pistols - not used to seeing 9mm turn-ins). 40 used mag https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=MSWMP40&name=Smith+%26+Wesson+M%26P40+.40S%26W%2f.357+SIG+15rd+Magazine&groupid=6575 9mm turn-in https://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=8633&name=LEO+Trade-In+Smith+%26+Wesson+M%26P9+9mm+Handgun

Well ... there you go ... CO does show slightly faster than Production (based on classifier HF) ... which should be comparable w/o the dot ... Just for the heck of it ... pulling up an old standard ... El Presidente ... you only have to have a 4.30 HF to get a "C" in Carry Optics ... you have to have a 4.32 HF in Limited; Limited 10 and Single Stack to get a "C" ... major PF contributing no doubt. Production only requires 4.10 ... yielding to the dot based on these classifiers records (2/10 of a HF faster!!).

IMHO ... they should just make an optic an allowable option in several divisions. Everytime I have tried to shoot steel challenge with an optic I end up taking it back off and just using regular sights. Having the extra capacity, major power factor / compensation etc etc in open is great and beneficial but how much an advantage is just having a dot instead of an iron sight. I wonder how many started Carry Optics (before the capacity rule change) and discovered they were just as fast with regular sights ... (like running though a maze of barriers ... leaning around a corner with 4 paper targets about 5yds .) ...For the 25-50yd stand in one box stage ... perhaps but otherwise??

Hope that works out ... Found one all black ... a little more but cheap shipping (day late / dollar short ... sigh ...) https://www.speedbeez.com/product/lpa-txt-black-target-blade-smith-wesson-revolver-rear-sight/ ... and ... an a 2 year old thread talking about the Bowen ... (I have one of those) ... http://forums.brianenos.com/index.php?/topic/220175-bowen-rear-sight-for-929/

How about this ... plain black sight .. silver body ... ?? http://www.revolversupply.com/silver-rear-sight-base-with-black-target-blade/ (shows in stock at time of posting)

Go to the USPSA NROI tab and see when a seminar is scheduled in your area ... sign up ... pay the fee ... show up ... pass the course ... etc etc ... https://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-class-schedule.php