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I use ones with a nylon patch on them ... I don't know how much the little patch helps because I use loctite on them anyhow. Set 'em and forget 'em.
edit: large pistol primer cups are .020 thick ... if you get in a bind put one of those over a regular strain screw tip ... it won't go anywhere (wedged between the screw tip and the spring).
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No matter which one you get/have ... they will bolt to one of these rod/spindle thingies ...
edit: hanger - https://benstoegerproshop.com/cr-speed-c-bax-production-holster-hanger-by-rescomp/
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3 minutes ago, 1911Prof said:
Revolver minor with a dot sounds good to me (my eyesight is not helpful to shooting iron sights) but I don't know if it would convince new/more shooters to move to a wheel gun. I started shooting revolver because it requires a new set of skills and strategies that are challenging. I think if we are honest most new shooters are looking for something that gets them up to speed quickly (read easier) hence PCC and CO
Yep ... definitely not a draw for something new to do ... but ...
It would allow an existing group of optic equipped revolvers (ICORE open shooters) to shoot their guns at USPSA w/o having to change a thing (just show up).
Note: except (only mounting difference I could find) ... in USPSA the heel of the gun can't be below the top of the belt ... in ICORE it only has to stay above the bottom of the belt!! (like who would call that?? dumb rule!! 1 1/2 inch height difference).
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Just an a FYI ... Speed Beez has something that looks like a Comp-Tac w/ the front cut down ... (similar to the cut Blade Tec previously mentioned) ...
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IMHO .. USPSA is the place to shoot an 8 shot revolver (or Steel Challenge ... or a plain old steel match).
The (USPSA) matches may have high capacity carbines and open guns running around but there is still Production, Single Stack, Limited 10 etc etc ... and the scenarios are fun.
Nooooo biggie ... the low capacity folks are reloading between shooting positions ... the high caps folks get to run faster. Big deal ... that's why there are different divisions.
It would be cool to be able to run an optic on a revolver w/o having to shoot in open. Heck .. if they can have Welfare Open (Carry Optics) then why not Revolver Optics ?? It would allow the open ICORE people to be able to participate w/ the same gun ...
Also ... IMHO ... I am disappointed that many ICORE matches appear to continue to (snub) step on the 8 shot ... making 6 shot strings and triple taps the mainstay ... leaving in most cases the only advantage to having an 8 shot being a couple of extra bullets (in case of an ammo problem). The results clearly separate 8 shots from the 6 shots and the open guns as well as the moon clip and speed loader guys ...
When you get home and unload your moon clips ... how many do you have that all the rounds have been fired??
Now that we have Limited 6 ... "Limited" is the 8 shot irons sighted revolvers. Are we (ICORE) pushing them away??
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I load 230gr Bear Creek bullets (or plain lead mostly these days) at 1.25 oal w/ 2.8gr of Bullseye and it is my favorite Thursday night steel load. W/ the Bear Creeks it clocks at 550fps out of my 5 inch Rock Island making 127pf.
When I was first experimenting w/ this load ... I also tried 2.8gr of Clay Dot (which went about 25fps faster) and 3.4gr of Green Dot which went 590fps ... making 135pf.
All cycled well ... I run a 12lb spring in the RI. Fun to shoot; knocks everything down.
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52 minutes ago, Chills1994 said:
Yeah ... it's an RCBS (caught a good deal on it at the time) but I had to use another Dillon case feeder arm to mount it. The green "stick" RCBS gives you (for a mount) is useless w/ a 650. Has worked well.
https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/254443-bullet-feeder-collator-mount-xl650/
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Before I had a bullet feeder (on my 650) I ran a powder cop die on every toolhead in position 3. It was cool to watch the stem pop up every time I pulled the handle.
When I was contemplating getting a bullet feeder I was really worried about losing the powder cop die and felt I needed to find a way to start seating and crimping again on the last station.
YMMV but after running the bullet feeder in that position now and not having a visual powder check doesn't bother me a bit. Every time I refill the primers I empty the primer catcher box; the loaded bullet bin ... throw in more brass and take a look at the powder hopper. If the hopper and the powder bar moves when I pull the handle it drops powder.
I have been doing it that way so long now I have complete confidence I won't have a powder problem.
I do dump every "100" into their own little plastic tray ... just in case ... ever ... I finish a batch and notice there has been a powder drop problem I didn't catch during the run (and that hasn't happened yet).
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5 minutes ago, Dannybot said:
I have run a 12# spring on mine, but it will sometimes go out of battery on reloading a full magazine, so I went back to factory for reliability. The issue I have with the factory spring is it is it is not 100% reliable with my 125 pf loads...
IIRC the factory spring is 16# ... There are 13 and 15 available.
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Check out this thread!! Note the striker replacement (last post) ...
https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/237374-trigger-bar-differences/
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On 2/8/2019 at 9:40 AM, Salsantini said:
The Agency kit uses the Apex FSS sear internals with Agency's trigger. I am disappointed this didn't work in my pistol. By far this is the best set up for the M&P pistol.
That's crazy ...
Do you think the little spike/bump on the arm (that pushes on the striker block) has been polished or damaged to the point where it has gotten too short ... or ... the tip (on the rear of the arm) that guides it has gotten bent??
Edit: New trigger bars are only $14!!
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I purchased a new (5 inch 40) Core three years ago and have always loaded "lite" 40's for the gun (180s at 135pf / 165s at 128pf). The factory recoil spring had to come out right away because it was too stiff w/ the lite loads (short stroke jam-o-matic). Infact ... the only thing I could get to work w/ the factory recoil spring was factory Blazer Brass ammo (179pf).
Initially, I went down to a 13lb spring because that was as lite as I could go before I noticed the slide failing to reset (w/ the gun pointed straight up 90 degrees ... as soon as I started to bring it down the slide would snap fully close).
It didn't take very long for it to loosen up and reset fine even with an 11lb spring ... (didn't matter if the JPoint was bolted on or not ...).
To this day the 11lb spring is still installed (over a full length stainless guide rod) and w/ it's Apex sub 3lb trigger ... it has become my favorite gun to shoot (and I sure never thought would happen).
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Here is a really nice one ... Sure looks good!
https://www.gunauction.com/buy/15595932
I'm watching to see what it closes at ...
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No biggie ... It started me wondering about machining the tip off of one of those 6 inchers and running it w/ no sight for an optic gun.
It has been interesting looking at some of these ... made me dig out my old 10-6 just to hold it ... look at it and some dry fire.
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15 minutes ago, BallisticianX said:
> Any K-frame 5" barrel was pre-10. <
And here is another 5" model 10 that wasn't being used as a musical instrument ...
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/797374093
edit: This one is nice ... (custom 5")
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/792427273
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I have only seen fixed sight ones on the early model 10s. This is a 10-2 (in the photos) ... and were very popular as musical instruments in their time.
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FWIW ... On mine I was able to get away with 4.4gr (Unique) with the (coated) Blue Bullet ... but ... Extreme plated bullets took another .5gr (4.9) (same gun same oal).
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With 180 blue bullets (set at 1.15oal out of my Para 5 inch barrel) and 4.4gr Unique ... I avg 954fps (171pf) (13.24 sd).
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26 minutes ago, Sarge said:
Then HQ should remove “no maximum handgun size” in D7
I can't find it now because they have removed the previous version of the rules ... but ... I am positive the "maximum handgun size" field used to say "see special conditions" (which is where the sizing information remains).
The new version has changed the wording from "see special conditions" to "no maximum handgun size".
Anyone that still has the previous version on their computer can verify this.
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12 minutes ago, bret said:
Could have sworn the couple of times I shot production, at Chrono I gave them an empty mag, an unloaded gun and they put the magazine in it, put it in the box and then weighed it.
Yep ...
For Production … pg98 January 2019 rules
Maximum size, handgun and all magazines (revolvers are exempt) - Handgun with empty magazine inserted must fit wholly within a box with internal dimensions of 8 15/16” x 6” x 1 5/8” (tolerance +1/16”, - 0”) (8.938” x 6” x 1.625”) (227.01mm x 152.40mm x 41.28mm).
For Carry Optics (mentioned in "special conditions") pg111 January 2019 rules
A handgun may be approved specifically for Carry Optics division provided that the model of the pistol used is an approved Production Division model AND meets Carry Optics criteria. Any manufacturer of a pistol that is not on the approved Production list, but meets Carry Optics criteria, must submit a Manufacturers Declaration Form to DNROI stating that a minimum of 500 complete handguns have been manufactured and are available to the general public.
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6 minutes ago, OPENB said:
Yeah ... the "box" specification for Carry Optics is redundant because to be on the Production list the gun had to fit in the (Production) box.
Would probably not fit in the box anyhow after the optic was bolted on.
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I always figured the "pointed" firing pin allowed it to concentrate it's force on a smaller area ... (making it easier to make a dent ... we only need a dent ... doesn't have to be a large diameter dent).
However ... I tried an Apex pin when I originally did my 627 and couldn't get near 6lbs (7 was safe). I realize there may have been something unique/wrong with my pin (at the time they were selling two different versions of S&W pins ... I could have easily done something air headed ... ) but ...
I put my factory pin back in and got down to low 5's no problem. I bumped back up to 5lb 12oz and been there ever since (except for a short period when I panicked due to a few bent moon clips).
This was my target area so I never bothered to put the Apex back in to see what was going on or if I had erroneously blamed it for the problem.
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I registered my M&P and get a newsletter every once and a while. In fact ... that is how I found out I could buy 2.0 grip panels for my Core ...
But ... I am sure you can sign up for their newsletters w/o bothering with the registration.
One thing the registration "IS" apparently required for is the lifetime service warranty for the original owner ...
From their site ...
" Smith & Wesson’s Lifetime Service Policy begins after the warranty period has expired. Smith & Wesson will repair, without charge, for the lifetime of the original owner, any Smith & Wesson handgun purchased on or after February 1, 1989, and any M&P15 series rifle, that is found to have a defect in material or workmanship. Eligibility for this Lifetime Service Policy requires returning the Product Registration Card within 30 days of purchase. The Lifetime Service Policy covers functional defects; it does not include the firearm’s finish, grips, magazines or sights. The Lifetime Service Policy is in addition to and not an extension of the Smith & Wesson Warranty. This warranty gives you specific legal rights. You may also have other rights that vary from State to State. "
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Picking up 3 or 4 speed loaders and loose brass is a lot more work than retrieving moon clips ... and ... it's easy to carry enough moon clips to shoot the whole match (no reloading).
Can we find a way to save USPSA Revo?
in Revolver Forum
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It's great not having to chase brass (moon clips) ... AND ... hearing someone in the background ask ... "how many shots does he have??"