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I wanted a new competition rifle this year and heavily considered a complete build from JP. There's no doubt they make one of the best race ready rifles on the market, but it also comes at a heavy price tag. I ended up buying an 18" and a 13.5" Armalite 3gun rifle for the same price as one JP rifle. I myself couldn't justify spending that much money on one, when I could buy 2 instead. Armalite was good enough for Greg Jordan to win the seires a few years ago, so I'm sure it will be good enough for a novice like me.

Check out the Armalite m153gn13. Call them direct for the best price.

Double check with a Savage and their rebate company on that rebate. I didn't think that model was eligible. I just went through this with my 10t I bought from Cabela's. Cabela's swore the rebate was valid, until I asked the to confirm with the manufacturer,, and then they said it wasn't. . Keep us posted on this.

I don't think you will regret buying the Savage, I have read that in today's standards and industry Savage beats Remington, hands down. Maybe 10 years ago things were different with both companies but today savage has the edge. The Savage is also a lot more user friendly. You can swap barrels pretty easily. The trigger is great for out of the box, as well as the stock. This may make you mad, but last week when I bought my 10T, Cabela's web site had a rebate linked. After discussing this with Savage and Cabela's I found it wasn't eligable, but Cabela's made it right and gave me $100 gift card to make up for their mistake. So I recieved $200 off instantly. Remember the sale ends on the 21st. So don't miss it. The pst line is nice. I was going to buy the pst 6-20x50 but couldn't pass up a $700 4-16x50 scope for $550 when I will be shooting 200 yards most times.

Cabela's has the savage 10t in 308 on sale for 499. That's 100 off their normal price. As far as glass, the best deal I found to date is a pst 4-16x50mm sfp, for 549.99 at eurooptics.com good people and fast shipping.

The ELS is very easy to move as well. Plan on having more female ends on the belt than you need. That way you can add or remove as needed. I think having them anchored/screwed on the belt, is actually a benefit. I like placing my carriers in the same place everytime. Even my pinwheels are canted slightly different, so I marked them so I know exactly where they go. This creates muscle memory, and helps reaction time, or atleast it should. I won't lie to you, even buying some used gear, it was expensive. I think I have around $500 +/- into my setup.

What are the guys running at your local club? If most are using an ELS system, you can always borrow some gear if needed. I have heard of the ELS belt not being stiff enough. I personally use an ELS system and like it a lot. I have 3 carbon arms 8 shell pin wheels, 5 pistol mag holders and a stacked rifle mag holder, with ELS attchments, I'm also using a Bladetech holster, with a small TMMS attachment. I can remove and or add anything I need depending on the stage I'm running. I would also suggest talking to some of the guys and see if anyone is selling their used gear. I bought almost all my gear with the exception of the belt, used and at a greatly discounted price. Or, if you do buy new, try and find a discount from someone.

I use a Bladetech Drop and Offset with a small TMMS. Bolts up nice to the ELS belt and holster. Easy to remove if not needed.

Talk to your buddies at the local matches, and see if anyone is upgrading and selling their old shotguns. If you don't mind buying used, you can save a lot of money. Now, as far as which one? The M2 is a great gun and very popular, I currently shoot a Versamax tactical I bought used, and love it. I also know the Versamax has a few parts that are known for wearing out. Since it's an M2 clone, most Benelli parts fit in it, I watched for them to go on sale and have no more than $100 into spare parts,just in case I have an issue later. The Beretta is also pretty popular since it's almost ready out of the box. The FN SLP is also a good gun, but I don't know a lot about them. The Browning A5 is becoming the gun to get at my local club. The A5 is the only gun that auto loads when you run it dry. This can save you some time on the stages. All of these are great choices, and you would probably would be happy with any of them. If you were buying new, and price wasn't an issue, I would go with a Browning A5 and have it professionally modified. Plan onspending $1600 if buying new once it's modified. If you can settle for used, any of the ones I mentioned will work great for you. It would really depend on the price and condition of the gun. It's not uncommon to see used for 1/2 the price of a new model either. I hope this helps some.

Thanks,

Do you have part #s for the Benelli and Wolf action springs?

I know you said 14.5 but Armalite sells a 13.5 upper with extended brake made specifically for 3 gun. The specs are very good. I know some guys that are using the 18" and beyond happy with their results. Black Friday sale still should be valid too.

Prior to replacing any parts, try some other ammo, preferably factory. Depending on how you stored your reloads, it could be your ammo.

Both great guys, and you are correct, the A5 is now becoming very popular. The A5 takes a lot of the counting away, since it auto loads the shell so nicely. I personally would look at the A5 before the M2 if I were buying new.

I have a Versamax tactical and love it. I also found it used, and at a great price. In fact the price I bought it for was less than 1/2 of what it cost originally. So even if I had to put $100-$150 into it, I wouldn't hesitate to do it. If I were you, I would talk to some guys at the range and see if anyone has one for sale. Used is the way to buy, if you can. Just check it out thoroughly and shoot it prior to committing. I have no regrets buying used.

Look at the carbon arms versatube. I have one and love it. They sell different size extensions to meet your needs.

For what's it worth, I have a Versamax tactical modded for 3 gun and love it. Knock on wood, it runs like a champ. Granted I bought it used for a great price, but even if I had to drop another $100 into it I wouldn't complain. Look for one that is used and is proven to be reliable.

Also using a Bobro. It a little expensive, but the best in my opinion.

Took mine to the range again today. The more I use it the better I like it. Today I confirmed zero from the bench then shot some off hand at around 50 yards. I was pleasently surprised to see how well it did. I agree this isn't a precision scope, but for 3 gun, it will suit my needs. No issues at all seeing the reticle in the bright sunlight either. I am very pleased with this scope and wouldn't hesitate buying another.

Would you please elaborate more? Thanks It's a 6x scope that costs significantly less than the 4x Viper. Something had to give. I learned firsthand that when a scope is "feature packed" for a too good to be true price it means the glass had to take a back seat to keep costs low. But what makes them different, and the pst better?

I have one and like it a lot so far. Mine is a true 1x when adjusted correctly and is also daylight bright. I am also using a Bobro mount and the SV-4 throw lever. I haven't used many scopes to compare it too, but the glass is very clear. I can easily keep both eyes open and shoot at 1x as well as 6x. The one wired thing is the magnification settings are backwards compared to other scopes. Not a huge deal for me but worth mentioning. Personally, I'm just starting to get into multi gun, and couldn't justify spending $1000 or more for just a scope quite yet. When I am ready to, the Strike Eagle will either go on my sons gun or the 15/22. For $329 I am very happy. The Bobro mount and throw lever are also very good.

SV-4 arrived yesterday. It fits like a glove and works great. Tip... You don't have to take the ring apart to install it on the scope. Simply loosen or remove the Allen screw, remove the rear lens cover and slide it over the scope carefully, tighten it up, and your done. Another great product from Vortex.

No, it's my own throw lever. I made a few aluminum levers for the PA 1-6x and they happened to fit the Vortex as well. Looks nice, what do you think about the eye relief? I have an astigmatism and with glasses its corrected, however, I am also right handed and left eye dominant. I need to get used to shooting both eyes open with the scope. With an Aimpoint I don't realy have an issue, but it's just a little more difficult with the scope.

Is that the sv-4 ? Doesn't look like the color matches that well, not that it realy matters.

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