DumKraken

+1 Exactly what I tell new shooters who wants to try the game, shoot what you have and get a feel of the game. Be safe and not to race with other seasoned shooters.

I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. I can just imagine how it would suck and be the only state not able to shoot due to AWB which this division would fall into. I do understand the standpoint of it being only 10 rnds coz not all guns are design to hold more than that. But production for new shooters? Majority of the new shooters I have shot with or met before were using a high cap 9 pistol. They probably better off shooting Lim Minor than production. I have nothing against production, I just think that most new shooters will only have 2 or 3 mags, lets say G17, which is pretty good enough, leaning more towards the BUDGET NEW SHOOTERS.

I rarely pay attention to meat prices and groceries but gas prices here in South TX went up from roughly .40 cents in the last 3 weeks.

IIRC, a round limit was never in place for production division as it was envisioned. You were supposed to be able to fill the mag(s) that came from factory as is. But as with all things competitive a race began where manufacturers started manufacturing higher cap magazines. I believe the last one was Sig offering a 21 or 20 something capacity magazine.Idk where uspsa got 10, and IPSC got 15 from but the intent was to level the capacity field. You're wrong on USPSA -- the ten round limit in production and L10 was a result of the ten round Federal capacity limit on newly manufactured magazines at the time the divisions were introduced.... IPSC started out unlimited, had a bit of an arms race, and then decided to do something about it, but decided to cap things at 15 rounds.... That would make sense. So when exactly production division was in place? All I could find was wiki which noted nationals production in 2002 I believe. I'm sure it started way earlier than that.

IIRC, a round limit was never in place for production division as it was envisioned. You were supposed to be able to fill the mag(s) that came from factory as is. But as with all things competitive a race began where manufacturers started manufacturing higher cap magazines. I believe the last one was Sig offering a 21 or 20 something capacity magazine.Idk where uspsa got 10, and IPSC got 15 from but the intent was to level the capacity field. I am guessing during world shoot, production division, the mag capacity goes up to 15 then? But it'll be just right for Production Optics...... Some of my shooting buddies were telling me about production optics. I guess a tanfolio stock 2 with an optics will be priced at 3k then . The madness continues.

I am sure that it was made so that those who have restrictive magazine capacity laws in their state could compete. What I don't understand is why they do not have a Production Major Class so that those who run .40 and .45 can be competitive against those who run 9. I tried my search fu and came short in regards to the production division history. I thought production division was put in place prior to the gun ban/mag cap restrictions where there was no limit to topping off mag and then was later change to a max of 10. So the chicken came first or the egg????? Are you saying that EVERY production gun holds 17 rd? Or just yours? Except that you need at least 4 mag holders and at least 5 mags to have any hope of being competitive. +1 Entry level would be shooting a 22 no holster needed at low ready. So, definitely the point was to keep the mag cap restrictive state to keep playing the game.

That's a rembrandt!! just wanna put that on display and just drool over it. Great blaster!!

I was just curious as to how it became about. What was the reason to only having a max of 10rnds. I can understand if it was a revolver, darn thing only has 6-8 holes. Now production on the other hand, you got a mag that can hold up to 17 rnds yet only loading a max of 10. I know it's a rule per USPSA, and I know curiosity killed the lion, but I am just wondering as how it became about. Thanks.