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Son's action pistol gun. First barrel and gun was cleaned spotless about every 600 rounds. Excellant accuracy for about 70,000 rounds. Replacement barrel by same manufacturer but will only go very accurate if dirty. Don't even think about brushing the barrel unless you want to fire 300 rounds or more to get the accuracy back. Just a quick swap with a tight patch for this one.

Something I have noticed over the years is shooters having trouble finding the dot on open guns with the weekhand at ten yards. 8 seconds sounds like a long time for a 3x3 but not being able to find the dot eats up the time quick. Telling a shooter having problems to cant the gun a little bit helps them a bunch. I know you are not suppose to cant the gun anytime but in this certain situation it seems to work very well. I don't mean gangsta style either. Just a little bit. At 10 yards the cant doesn't make that much difference in bullet impact. I've seen several people go from shooting 8's & 5's to 10's and x's immediately. Sounds crazy, but try it.

Could you expand on that for us? Pros and Cons, in your experience? The guy using the scope to draw, done alright most of the time. Every once in a while though he moved the leader in his scope. Then he would be shooting way to the left. He would also miss the mount to the barricade every now and then. As Alan550 said it is almost impossible to get straightened back out. If drawing by the gun and you have a mounting problem you can usually get straightened out in time. I know someone is going to chime in and say I have been drawing with the scope for years with no problem. I am just speaking from my own experience.

When Kevin and Travis are practicing plates, kevin has two plates down before Travis breaks his first shot. Then Travis finishes before Kevin does. Sometimes I think Travis has forgot to load his gun. That is how much he is concentrating on getting a hit on that first plate.

My son shoots the mover very quickly in the center section of the run. He shoots what I think is to quickly, but he gets the job done. Another thing is to remember the follow through with the last shot. If you don't it can cost you a nickel very easily.

I don't know of anyone here locally in southwest virginia that draws with the scope. One shooter used to but we have broke him from doing it.

Doesn't it make you fill all warm inside to see teenagers at the range. My son was 9 when he started shooting competetively, now he is 20 and paying his own entry fees and buying components while going to college. Our good friend and my sons boss works him during the summer months to pay for most of it. He travels to all the matches with him. They grow up to quickly. Enjoy it while you can. Money well spent. Dad still has to help with the reloading of 25k rounds a year though.

Although I can't compete any more because of my condition, I sure used to every week. I'm in a wheel chair and used velcro on my right leg just below the knee to hold my holster. The strong industrial stuff you can't hardly get anything loose from. I just kept my speed loaders between my legs resting on the chair. I would shoot the stage and someone would run for me to the next one. The RO would stop the timer, I would move into position with my gun holstered. When the timer went off I would shoot that stage and so on. We have a great bunch of people at our club and they will let anyone come and burn powder as long as they can do it safely. If the rules have to be bent a little because of a disability so be it. I don't shoot anymore but am still heavily involved in action pistol. My son has taken over where I left off on the competition side of things.

Has anyone ever heard of Amteck 38 special ammo? It has a plastic or polymer casing with an aluminum head. I've never seen it before. Went to the plate range today and empty cases were laying everywhere.

This year at Bianchi there is a production only division. This is the first year of a production only division. The match starts tommorrow and runs through Saturday.

I agree with you whole heartedly. The reason for production is to get more shooters to the cup. I don't believe the new class is going to mean a whole lot as far as bringing in new shooters to the game. The ones shooting the new class are going to be the old class with a different gun. To get more competitors in action shooting, more people are going to have to put on matches at a local level. At our local matches, we don't care if they show up with a BB gun we let them shoot as long as they do it safely. Usually one of us range officers are always behind, beside of or on the sidelines talking and working with the new shooter in a very friendly atmosphere. The right atmosphere has a whole lot to do with whether a shooter likes the new game or not when they first come to give it a try. If they don't have a gun and are just watching, we try to talk to them and get them to try a stage. Many times I have let a guy or gal try to shoot a round of plates with one of my guns and me beside of them coaching. One of the best things to happen is bringing in a rimfire class. There are as many shooters shooting rimfire as centerfire at our local club. The ammo is cheap and the guns are not expensive. Even an open class rimfire can be built on most peoples budget. I have had three people over the winter call me and ask for advice on a gun purchase, so they can give action pistol a try without putting out a lot of money. My advice is a rimfire to start with and then go from there if they like the sport. If they like it they will move to centerfire in short order. I think action pistol is the game of games and nothing else matches it. I have been involved in it for about twenty years now and even though I can no longer compete for health reasons, I am at all our local matches helping to score and do what I can. I even whooped up on Action Pistolero once or twice when he first started out. Our club was the first place he ever tried it. Since then we have become very good friends and he is the discipline chairman of our club. We didn't have a lot of equipment at our range back years ago, no mover and only two plate racks but we had a good time and that is what it is all about. I have never been to the national championship but I don't think anyone has ever worked harder to promote the sport than I have at a local level. The local level is where it all starts and people should remember that. I have never met a better bunch of people than the ones who shoot action pistol. I also consider several of the people that contribute to this forum good friends that I have got to know at our matches. A friendly place to play means a lot to a first time shooter. The first match I ever shot I was so nervous it was rediculous. Action was the first match I ever shot and I was hooked. The people running that match made the difference. Friendliness will get a person every time.

Kevin, your foster son just loved those groups. Now let's see how one of the best local 1911 smiths done rebarreling his gun. That is if his wing ever gets better so he can go ring it out and see what it will do. Hopefully we'll get you behind it and it will do a 0.7 at 50. Great shooting Kevin.

Ultradots are what my son has been using on his open gun for the last two years. They give a long battery life and have never faied to hold zero. The problem he has is that the intensity dial after about 15000 rounds will not hold position. I have sent two back for repair in the last two years. A check for $5.00 for return postage is all it takes. The scopes have been back repaired in a very reasonable amount of time. Eugene

Kevin you have done great i'm proud of you and thats a really good X count on the mover. even if you dont get into the shootoff you have done well. You done better then me, Leroy, Allen, AL, Kevin Lee, and Martin if we had been down there with you. Also dad said he's goin to kick your ass when he sees you for missing a plate . the fan club up here is proud of you kevin. but i say if i was there i would have beat you or at least cleaned the plates . Leroy this is travis man. i figured you would have no clue who it was. i figured if anything the college thing i said would have gave you a clue.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!! MIssed a plate!!!!!!! AH you didnt find a shovel did ya.. I told you so man... Hey you are doing great man under the conditions. Man I would be shakin like a dog S^*%!@# razor blades. One plate hell 3 or more for me in a big match Maybe I can clean them in a big match when i grow up ... So just get dialed in and make the mover work for ya man...Rootin for ya'll here. Leroy Lee Posted Today, 12:51 PM Well I'm no cheerleader, but I'll admit being a club member. Kevin, you're doing good in rough conditions. Just chill out and shoot. We all know you can do it. Kevin sorry about that guys tryin to figure out how to work this thing. Kevin man your doin great. but i can still beat you . just like Leroy and Martin said just have fun with it you have one event left shoot a 480 for me on the mover. i guess i'm a member of the fan club too. Leroy if you get a raise i need one too i have to pay for college somehow. just keep the dot in the middle of the X ring and squeeze the trigger and shoot the 480. and remember to move the stick shift don't pull a Leroy and don't change it.