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tomjerry1

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  1. The end play on my cylinder is tight, but a good thought. I believe I'm going to seat the bullet a little deeper, am 1.2" and going to go to 1.15". The Lee Factory crimp has been the largest facto in reducing the bullet creep.
  2. You almost had me Dr. Phil, I will get this contraption figured out. So complicated for such a simple device.
  3. I will be monitoring the process and any accuracy changes, and this factory crimp die has done more for the bullet creep with my setup. I will stick with it for now, at least until it shows it's not the fix.
  4. Okay, just back from the range. I tested Blue Bullets and Bang and Clang bullets. Both are .358 Dia, 147/148 gr. and finally got a LEE factory crimp die. The best performance cam from Blue Bullets, very accurate, and walked out .016". Bang and Clang are accurate also, but not as tight, they walked .041". I'm going ti tighten up the crimp until bullets start to tumble, but think I'm going to finally solve the creep?
  5. I have it set so that the bullet will just fit the case without scraping the coating.
  6. He must be having a great time pulling the trigger.
  7. I'm back to the chrono again. With spp difficult to obtain, I'm switching back to lpp. I have lost a few fps and chrono at 709 fps av and a pf of 163.07
  8. I just chronoed E3 today. 230gr plated round nose, 3.9gr E3, 1.266 OAL, 5" 1911 barrel. hi-728.25 lo-676.25 av-709 es-52 sd-20.5 pf-163.07 I'm going to reduce the OAL to 1.250 and try to see if/how much it will boost the fp/pf.
  9. Well today I tried 7 different brass in a quest to solve the bullet creeping out while firing. The load is 3.7gr Vectan, 147gr .358 dia Bang and Clang bullets, .378" crimp, Overall length is 1.2 inch, and Federal spp and TK .040" moon clips. Cases are listed by the least to most creep with average velocity and power factor: CBC .026" 925fps 135.98pf S&B .037" 915fps 134.51pf FC .046" 890fps 130.83pf WIN .055" 924fps 135.83pf Blazzer .068" 889fps 132.15pf I also tried PMC and A-USA, I discarded their info because, although their bullet creep and pf were good, they would not stay in the TK moon clips. So now I'm off to my buckets of 9mm brass to look for CBC and S&B brass to continue my quest. I will say that I've been talking with a few revolver shooters, and they suggested to learn to accept a certain amount of creep? I will also try .035 and .037" moon clips in the future. Right now I'm trying to narrow down variables.
  10. Try a local gun club or shooting range for range brass till it comes available. I am fairly new to the 929, so I have learned more than I wanted to know about revolvers. I shoot Open class in USPSA, 1911 style, so my views are a bit skewed. I'm use to a 2.5lb single stage trigger, my 929 had a 14.5lb double action and a 7lb single action pulls, this was definitely not where I wanted to be. Single action is out of the question in USPSA, so I began the quest for the lightest double action pull I could get. Am currently at 5.5lb, (involved a spur less hammer setup) someone else maybe able to get that lower? but 5.5lb will not reliably set off most primers, so Federal primers are the game, now have reliable ignition. Now you have moon clips, there is an assortment, I have .035, .037, and .040, and I understand there maybe more? Which brass for which moon clip? I am still trying to narrow that one out, why, because the bullets will walk out of the cases during recoil, I have never had that issue with a semiauto. Before you get to far with cases, slug your cylinder and barrel, I have read that there are many variances, mine slugged at .358 in the chamber, .357in the throat, and .354 through the barrel. So .358 bullets are what I am using, it has decreased the bullets walking out of the cases, but not completely. Now I am trying different manufacture cases to see if that will stop the walking. Once I iron out the bullet walking out issue, then I will start the process of selecting which moon clips I will use. With the material shortages, this is a bad time to be experimenting. There is some pretty good info on this forum about the 929, good luck.
  11. If your mag release doesn't have the hole, you will have to drill and tap the hole. I recommend purchasing a mag release that already has the proper sized/tapped hole, it will probably be less frustrating and cheaper than doing it yourself. The mag releases are very hard, and the very small taps break exceptionally easily. Nothing short of an EDM machine will get the broken drill/tap out, I have an example or two laying around.
  12. Just back from the range. The new load, 148 Bang and Clang bullet, 3.7gr Vectan 9.5 Fed SPP, 1.2 OAL, produces and avg velocity of 917 fps, or HF of 136.2. I can live with that, but the bullets are still walking out, although not as much. I have checked the crimp, .374/.375, it's on the verge of cutting through the coating and exposing the lead. Has anyone tried using a grooved bullet and roll crimp?
  13. I just finished loading 32 rounds that I will hopefully get to tomorrow, plused up another grain to boost the PF a little, just a little close for me.
  14. That sounds like a starting point, already using the U-die, going to drop the crimp from .380 to .376 and see what happens. Thanks
  15. Just got back from the range, good and bad. Accuracy with the .358 bullets has increased, but the bullets continue to walk out of the cases, probably about 20 to 25 thousands on the seventh and eighth rounds. I crimped these to .380 but need more, how much are you folks crimping coated bullets? With 3.6gr of Vectan 9.5, I'm attaining 125 to 128 PF, need to bump a grain. I do believe I am going to try some 160 gr bullets, maybe more bullet to grip the case?
  16. Thank you for the info, what powder are you using? I have Vectan 9.5 at 3.6gr and am going to use 1.2 OAL. I'm going to try and get to the range tomorrow and chrono this load and see how it shoots. What size moon clips are you using? I've got .035, .037, and .040 using win brass, they seem to like the .040 clips.
  17. NoSteel, So you like the 160gr weight better? I have used .356 147gr plated, accuracy is okay? but what really bothers me, is the bullets walking out of the cases while firing. I'm hoping that using a .358 coated will stop this from happening, and the accuracy should get better. 160gr may help more, should be a longer bullet, more for the case to hold on to.
  18. I thought(I read), that the .001 from the chamber to the throat is for accuracy, and gases blowing by. I don't know for sure yet, just loaded some .358 147 gr Band & Clang, will know, hopefully, in a day or two.
  19. 147 gr, and I agree about OAL around 1.2", should definitely help with bullet creep. Am looking forward to trying these new bullets, also have some Blue Bullets on order, .358" 147 gr., both should help with sealing gases and leading.
  20. S&W 929-So I was reading about loading for a revolver, and ended up with .358" from Clang and Bang. If what I read is correct( and please don't beat me up to much on terminology), you should slug the throat of the cylinder( in my case .357), and then use .001" larger in the chamber(.358 for me). So now I'm trying to determine OAL, I've seen some folks load to 1.2", but I've been playing and have determined I can load as long as 2.25 AOL before the bullet is contacting the throat. Would this be to long for a 929 load?
  21. S&W 929-So I was reading about loading for a revolver, and ended up with .358" from Clang and Bang. If what I read is correct( and please don't beat me up to much on terminology), you should slug the throat of the cylinder( in my case .357), and then use .001" larger in the chamber(.358 for me). So now I'm trying to determine OAL, I've seen some folks load to 1.2", but I've been playing and have determined I can load as long as 2.25 AOL before the bullet is contacting the throat. Would this be to long for a 929 load?
  22. Contact DAA and ask them, they didn't steer me wrong.
  23. Well, at least you are shooting. I believe before long, we'll be shooting SS/Production 10 rounders. Have fun.
  24. Where are you shooting, looks like you are dropping mags at 8-10 rounds?
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