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Ah perfect, thanks.
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Great news. It doesn't start coming off the rails after a certain amount of rounds? Do you happen to have the link/contact info for AWP?
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Thanks for sharing your experience with HC. Does HC also work in the frame rails, or the minute the slide cycles the HC is gone?
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I've heard that DLC and hard chrome are excellent finishes, but I'm wondering if I have these applied to a frame's rails will it stop the wear from the slide or will the coating come off a soon as the slide begins to cycle?
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I get 1,500 rounds for $300. But a lot of competition shooters out here have sponsors and they burn through like 10k - 20k rounds per month. So if you get a sponsor the sky is the limit as far as round counts. That's why I was wondering around how many rounds a Sig P320 FCU lasts, because that would come out of my pocket, lol. And $3k every year if they last around 150k rounds, that's kind of high for a production handgun.
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Now, onto revolver frames stretching, lol. Is it true that everytime you fire a revolver the frame stretches just a tiny bit? Or does this have to do only with the aluminum revolvers more so, or what if I but a 357 mag revolver but only shoot 38 special. Will it still stretch eventually, just much slower than with full power 357 mag loads?
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Very true. The modularity of the P320 is very intriguing to me, but at that price yes, the P320's real market value is significantly less than a CZ. I wonder ehat would fail from the actual metal part of the FCU. Would it be the slide rail tabs thinning down to unusable, cracking, or another part of the FCU cracking? Because those 3 possibilities are the only ways I see the actual FCU cracking.
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For the non-shadow I guess it's MSRP, $900 - $1k. But I really like the modularity of the P320. It's a real bummer I can't buy form an FFL here in CA. I spoke to Sig Sauer yesterday and one of their lead CS guys said eventually the FCU would fail, it would just be a matter of when, not if.
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Nice plan for eight guns, Lol. Unfortunately the Tangfolio isn't sold here in CA, or any of the other ones you mentioned for that matter. The only one sold here in CA is the CZ Sp 01 75, but not the shadow version. I've been thinking about getting one of these but since it's not the shadow version I looked at having the slide milled for optics but couldn't find replacement slides amd have heard that CZ won't replace just the slide?
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I don't really like to reload though so so far I go with factory ammo. Still pretty safe as far as longevity?
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You're right! I haven't. I'm trying to get into competitive USPSA production.
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About $2,500 here in Cali, but the problem is that there's not many of them since they can only be obtained through ppt from someone coming into CA, and since most people are leaving CA, Lol. Yes, it's been challenged many times, the two most relevant ones one ended in the CA Supreme Court where the biased liberal court upheld the ridiculous law, and the other ended with an en blanc review in the 9th Circus Court of Appeals which also upheld the ridiculous. There's a new one, but unless SCOTUS intervenes I don't see it going anywhere either.
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Been thinking about it for years now.
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Almost. Can only get pre 2012 models, and those are becoming few. For Glocks, for example, still on Gen 3 9mm when everyone has the Gen 5.
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I wouldn't worry about it if it were not for California banning the sale of everything. Can't buy just the receiver and anything P320 or P365 can only be bought from someone else and expect to pay about $2,500-$3,000 for each. Hence, for a Sig FCU it would only be worth it for me if it's pretty much indestructible. Any other part of the gun I can get, but the FCU because it's the serialized portion I can't replace here in California.
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So with something like a Sig P226 or a Beretta 92 with aluminum frames re-welding isn't really an option? On that note, I know revolvers eventually stretch, especially if shooting hot and heavy magnum loads, or if the revolver is lightweight aluminum. However, if it's a. 357 magnum revolver and you only shoot 38 special through it, will it also eventually stretch, it'll just take much longer, or the 38 special won't have enough energy to ever stretch that revolver?
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I was shocked when I learned that they're not indestructible, Lol. But yeah, most of them crack into the 150k+ rounds. I was curious to know about the Sig FCU because there's really no frame to crack that can't be replaced for $50, but since the slide rails and ejector and built into the FCU I was curious to see if these two things also wear out until the FCU is no longer usable? There's a member here who posted photos of pne of his FCU with over 100k rounds and it definitely looks worn, kind of flat grinded rather than round edges, but I'm wondering if those develop and then stop or if they keep going. If they keep going I'm wondering how long until all the metal runs out of the slide tabs.
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Yeah, I'm just planning ahead, worst case scenario with a zero possibility of replacement. So, for example, a CZ that cracks the actual frame or slide rails, I would be able to have it repaired? And would aluminum framed guns like the Sig P226 or Beretta 92fs also be candidates to get repaired?
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Yeah, now that you mention it it does kind of look like grease, thanks for telling me. I was just curious because it looked more like a casting line from the factory. So I can't really tell that well from the photos, but the edges, particularly the front edges, are definitely more rounded and a bit "sanded down" so to speak compared with an unused FCU, correct?
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Is it a deep scratch or it was just cast that way since new? I was just curious because the other side appears to be smoothly rounded.
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I'm curious, I just noticed what looks like a crack on the right slide tab. Is that from the casting or a deep scratch?
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That's been a major concern of mine. I did think about a CZ or Beretta 92 instead, but heard that the actual frame cracks. Would that be repairable as well if it does?
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Thanks for sharing! Wow, that's impressive. It just looks kond of rounded on the edges compared to a new one, I would guess like 5k rounds through it, not 97k. So probably in the millions of rounds to wear one out right? Now I'm more at ease about getting one.
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Because they're not available for sale here in California, so it's extremely difficult to find one.
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Prior to getting into competition I always thought that firearms were indestructible and lasted indefinitely. However, I was recently told that, for a semi-auto, each time the slide cycles it scrapes off a miniscule amount of metal from the slide rails. Eventually, the slide rails will get so thin that the frame will need to be replaced, or the rails will outright crack because they're so thin. On that note, do revolvers also suffer from something similar to this, or revolvers last longer? For revolvers I've heard that frame stretching can be a problem. So, if I do something like cerakote on the slide rails, will that stop the wearing done on the slide rails, or can that not be done, or it won't stop the wearing down of the slide rails? Thanks
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