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Thank you @shred!

Yeah ... I remember that argument. Largely BS, IMHO. I've never had a problem saying DA 1st shot OR striker fired.

Be more specific ... In which division?

If you mean DA/SA guns I'd agree, not much. But if refer to DAO guns I would say there is a significant difference.

Close ... The 170mm mags were originally based on the old .45 ACP Colt 11 round mags, which happened to be 170mm. Additionally, the original intent was they were ONLY allowed for single stack (not necessarily 1911) firearms.

I don't 100% remember on this issue, but as I recall the .40 floor for major (other than in Open) was set by IPSC a long time ago when the IPSC and USPSA rules were much more in sync. The one exception, at the time, was revolver since revolver cylinders were all fully supported (unlike many auto loaders) and could withstand the pressures better. (Also, it was easy to shoot a .357 Mag to major ... Well, easy to achieve major. Handling a .357 in competition was another issue!)

I WAS around at the time ... and slightly before. When I started there were effectively 2 calibers ... .38 Super and .45 ACP. Technically, when I started, there were no divisions. .38 Super sometimes had a nasty habit of blowing up when you fired it, hence the term "super faced." .40 S&W (a shortened and downloaded version of the 10 mm) was just getting started and a lot of it barely made major from the factory. (Note: At that time major was 175.) There were SERIOUS restrictions on using 9mm (to include 9x21 and 9x23) in Open to make major. This is all history, folks. Improvements in components followed and these rounds eventually became safer and more reliable. The great race for more rounds in the mag was on. Folks would sell their souls just to get 1 or 2 more rounds in the magazine. Devil be damned with Power or Accuracy. The race was on to see who could get 30+ rounds into a 170 mm magazine. (Yes, the ORIGINAL mag limit was 170, NOT 171.25.) The holy grail came to be getting through a CoF with no more than one reload ... NONE, if you could pull it off! The art of reloading on the run began to die. That, my friends, is the real reason we keep pushing for smaller calibers ... to get more rounds into the gun and have less need to reload. A corollary to that is we keep pushing to dumb down power factors in order to boost the use of 9mm ... Let's do away with PF altogether, or so it seems to be. No, we should NOT be considering designing divisions around specific calibers. The divisions should group similar types of firearms and/or sights for competitive equity only. Let the chips fall where they may in terms of caliber. If commonly available factory ammo can make major in a given caliber, let it be allowed for major. (Open is a notable exception to this ... It's designed to allow for most anything.) Allowing Major/minor in ALL divisions only makes sense to me. Give the shooters a CHOICE and don’t pigeon-hole them into calibers or power factors just to drive sales of 9mm or any other caliber for that matter.

Trust me ... The A3 situation is, unfortunately, still in limbo. For better or worse ...

As Lucy once said: If you don't vote, don't crab. I vote. Therefore I reserve the right to crab!

Might even work ... Oh wait. When the membership does have the chance to vote, THEY DON'T! Democracy at its finest ...

AMEN!

I recall Joey Racaza used to make a reasonable plastic version some years ago. (Dino "blessed" it during the PanAm in Jamaica ...) However, I've no idea how or where to find any more.

Some aren't ...

Are they homemade or do you have a manufacturer source?

Changing times does not, necessarily, equate to for the better.

Potentially, it could lead to improved versions of slide-mounted optics that would stand up to Major! (Good to hear from you, old friend!)

I do not agree that allowing Major for LO is the same as pushing Major. It simply gives shooters' an option. If, in fact, shooters opt more for Major then perhaps there is something to be said for shooting Major. As it stands (in LO) there is no option to be had, power wise. And, if I may add, I fail to understand how not allowing a choice between Major and minor does not remove power from the game. I see the unfortunate end state of this to be pushing all towards .22LR or worse, Air Soft. JMHO

Allowing Major/minor in LO while maintaining the 141.25 mm mag length would create a similar capacity difference (% wise) as to Single Stack. The shooter has the option of more bb's or more power. To relegate everything we do going forward to minor only is to pull the plug on one of the founding principles of the sport ... Power. I adamently oppose that. I agree CO should probably be limited to the new (to USPSA) capacity of 15 rounds. CO is supposed to be a Production gun with a slide mounted optic. I see no good reason to allow it to have more rounds than Production ... I never did.

Yeah ... Go to the USPSA Web site. Select Membership Resources. Scroll way down and select Financial Documents. Select the type document you want and the year. Real hard to find ...

I've seen them. I like sausage, but I have better sense than to watch it being made. I wish I'd thought of that before watching those meetings. And yes, I'm 99% sure that would be copyright infringement. However, I don't believe HQ has ever taken much to enforcing it.

So ... Using USPSA Rules, presumably USPSA Targets, USPSA Divisions, and simply NOT reporting the match to USPSA or sending the concomitant fees in, right? Can anyone spell COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT?

You CAN shoot 9mm ... in minor. You're only allowed to push it to Major in Open. .357 Sig is another issue.

One other reason, IIRC ... .357 Sig pretty easily makes major in standard off the shelf factory loads. 9mm does not, unless loaded to extremes. Think of it as the little brother to the REALLY defunct 9x25 Dillon!

Reference Appendix E3a ... This would be outside the permitted area for grip tape. Welcome to Open ...