Nevadazielmeister

Geesh Memphis, stop screwing around and just give him the answer he is asking for. Let's not worry him with terms like DOPE, Density Altitude, Wind Deflection, MILs, MOA, and Sight height offset. And we certainly should not bother him about muzzle velocity and point blank range. Heaven forbid!!! All joking aside. OP, this advise from Memphis is key and the only way you will be able to figure out the solution for your rifle. I would break it down in much easier terms for your setup. As you will not have any real data to use to get your firing solution, I would simply hold over based on the target itself. At 50 yards, hold center mass. 100 yards top of target. 150 yards, Half target above the top. 200 yards, full target above top of target. However, I would warn that it might be a bit reversed, so don't ignore the data. You may find that the shots are hitting low on the target at 50 yards but then high at 100 yards. It all depends on your setup. As an example, I shot my Limcat in 38 Super at 1,350 FPS with a 124 grain bullet using the 2.5 MOA dot on the Delta Point Pro. I was holding dead on for the 100 and 150 yard targets, but had to hold at the top of the 200 yard target. The 250 yard target I was holding a half target high, but at that distance, I have to also hold left to account for wind. Took me about 4 shots to finally hit the target at 250. Good luck and PM me with any questions. I have years and years of long range experience for assistance.

Or maybe someone could have just emailed Troy in the beginning and avoided this entire thread. Troy is an amazing wealth of information and I swear, must have memorized the rule book.

Ummm.. Powder Valley has like 122 4 pounds kegs: https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/product/vihtavuori-3n38/

I guess experiences in the field differ from thoughts on the internet. That is fine, but not crazy talk. Lots of people switch hands because it is easier to naturally aim down the length of your arm that it is to close one eye or the other, tilt the handgun, tilt your head, etc. Switching hands is easy and is no less crazy. It's as simple as pointing. And here is some reference material: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-dominance. My favorite part: "Overall, being mixed handed seems to result in better performance than being strongly handed for sports such as basketball, ice hockey, and field hockey. What these sports have in common is that they require active body movements and also an ability to respond to either side." And another reference: https://www.targetbarn.com/broad-side/shooting-vision-cross-dominance/ which states "There are some instructors who encourage shooters to use the hand that matches their eye, or to retrain the eyes so that the eye matches the preferred hand." And another reference: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/cross-dominant-shooter/ which states "Bill Rogers is probably the best-known proponent of this system. Bill believes it is easier to learn to shoot with your non-dominant hand than to change or overcome eye dominance. Rogers School students have reported excellent results with this method, but a lot of people are reluctant to carry their defensive sidearm on their non-dominant side. Performing all functions with the hand that has less strength and less dexterity than the dominant hand does come with some difficulties." Not such crazy talk at all. It is easier to change hands than it is to change eye dominance. EDIT: And Memphis, maybe you have heard of Tom Givens, isn't he out of Memphis, TN. He seems to think that it is possible to change hands instead of changing eye dominance. Give him a call and call him crazy?

I have the Dillon RF100 and love it. It loads a tube in about 45 seconds or less (never timed but not long) and have never had to slow down my reloading due to empty primer tubes. It's kinda loud, but it works really well. No, I would not consider the use of the RF100 as the minority at all.

The best thing to do is shoot on the side that your eye is most dominant. That means switching hands. I am left handed, but right eye dominant. I shoot right for everything. Works really well. My wife is right handed, but now shoots left handed and does really well. We had to switch her from one side to the other and the improvement was very dramatic. She has been shooting this way competitively for about 5 years now. I would recommend switching hands.

Has anyone ever been seriously injured during a retreat stage?

Thank you Matt for those suggestions. Your suggestions are right in line with the magazine tuning videos I have been watching. I am taking a different route from MBX. I have purchased a couple of STI Magazines and the Dawson Magazine Tuning Kit. I am tired of relying on others to get my gun to work, even though I live not 15 minutes from Limcat. Being a Jeep owner, I have learned it is always best to fix your own things. I also understand that properly tuned STI Magazines are hard to beat for reliability. Whatever I get back from MBX, I will then just sell and switch over from MBX to STI. The hubris of the owner of MBX was too much for me to bear.

That's weird, because I believe that the weights of powder above are incorrect. Here is what I have with a 9mm case holding 9.1 grains of VV 3N38: The case on the left is the 38 Super Comp case that held the powder that is now in the 9mm case on the right. Something seemed strange in the previous photo and do not appear accurate. Also, it must be said that I had a hell of a time keeping the powder in the 9mm case and cannot imagine compressing such a round. I just thought it fair for people to see ACTUAL powder charge sizes, no some mystical variation. Just so the kids at home know, the 9mm major is going to need a faster powder to make major. From my experience, faster more energetic powders produce greater recoil.

UPDATE: Well it appears everything has been ruled out but the magazines. I sent them back to MBX and now Adrian Cobb is arguing with me, blaming everything but the magazines. I guess the warranty and guarantee that Mr. Cobb promises depends on who you are. I have 4 170mm's magazines and only have trouble with the two. My favorite quote from Mr. Cobb: Oh the hubris and lack of customer service. I had no idea I was dealing with such a god. But all kidding aside. I am not happy with my MBX magazines anymore and am even more unhappy with their customer service. Thank you all for your input, sharing and assistance. Guess I will learn how to tune my own STI magazines and hopefully get these issues resolved myself.

I am glad you got a Limcat from my friends. They are really great to work with. In speaking to Julian just this morning, I learned that the very best magazines are the old STI magazines, the ones with 3 lines down the sides. They recommend those, but of course, they are no longer made. While the Lim's have been able to resolve my concerns every time, now I understand I am having magazine issues with my MBX 170mm's. MBX is NOT the best, especially if you have to deal with them for customer service. Adrian is giving me a lot of push back for problems with his 170mm's. I have tried and tried and I still get the same response, it must be the gun, or the ammo, etc. etc. I have many examples, here is just one: I have made changes to the 38 Super Comp Ammo (shortening, load changes, etc.). What is weird is how of the 4 170mm magazines I own, 2 of them do the above. Since I bought them at different times, we suspect that there have been changes made to the magazines without notice and now I have two that do not work. Very frustrated, but then, that is why there are other magazine manufacturers out there and I plan to try the STI magazines a try.

I submitted mine 2 weeks ago, never heard anything. I sent a follow up email 1 week ago and boom, just got the email last night. They switched from A to "Y". Ended up not making any difference, but paid the way for my next classifier. People have been saying I sand bag, but really, it takes a long time to upgrade, lemme tell yah. Good luck sir!

I would recommend looking at the software called Quickload. https://www.neconos.com/details3.htm My father and I have used this software for 15+ years and have more than saved the $150.00 in powder and bullets. If you REALLY want to know about your load and internal ballistics of your firearm, this is the software to get. The biggest thing I like about it is the percentage powder burned. This is very helpful for open guns since I still want powder burning after the bullet leaves the barrel, to allow expanding gasses to reduce muzzle flip. In the alternative, if I am shooting production, I would ensure powder burn was close to 90-95%. In both instances, I was able to tune my loads to have the least amount recoil. Everything else is make even more wild guesses. This is just ONE of the many factors you can look into.

Sorry about your failure with the DPP. Do you mind commenting on what you were using it on? How it was mounted, etc? Just curious. I guess the good news is that Leupold is willing to replace/repair it.

Sure. Very simple. Call the folks at L.A.G. Tactical and they will build you one, no problem.

Both of them end in "AE", so in the middle of all of these problems some are having. As stated before, it seems to have more to do with the slide mounted uses. Anyone can break any optic with enough abuse.

With you breaking 5 Delta Point Pro's and me and my wife not having any issues, maybe you are doing something wrong? It just seems strange that you have so many problems and and yet so many others don't.

From my understanding, through personal experience, is that one should not use Grams Engineering internal springs and followers with MBX tubes. The follower is not designed for the inside of the magazine tube as the shape is different. I learned the hard way at a major match for this. Maybe that is what the newly purchased magazines are exhibiting? I don't know their circumstances but trust me, just go with the MBX spring and followers and they should work well.

Based on my discussion with a friend in the industry, it would appear Leupold has stop selling the Delta Point Pro. They are unable to obtain them from wholesalers and the only units you are seeing available online are from existing wholesaler stock. I am curious if anyone else has even more insider information. I suspect a re-design? Meanwhile, my wife and I have been running our Delta Point Pros on our Razorcats for over 15,000 rounds without one single issue. It would seem the Carry Optic slide mounted units are failing at a higher rate than the regular frame mounted units.

124 grain Hollow Point. My bad.

Good point. 124 grain Montana Golds and 9.1 grains of VV 3N38. When I get a chance this week, I plan to test the reduction in COAL to find out if the magazine is the culprit.

As just an FYI for Limcat guns, Johnny recommends not less than 1.220. If that is helpful to some people. Again, thank you all for your replies.

Well sort of. I was having issues with magazine feeding and if the round is too long, then it will not move up the column effectively. I have been working with the fine folks at MBX and they recommended a short COAL. Sounds like I was running a little long. Thank you all for your thoughts and measurements.

Hello shooters. I seem to be having some magazine feeding issues and was curious what length other 38 SC shooters are loading their rounds to? I was at 1.250 but was asked by the magazine manufacturer to go done 0.020, but still seem to have some feed issues. So this is really just a poll, to get an idea as to what the group is loading to. Thank you folks.

The heat is loosening the thread locking material. So you need a higher temperature rating on your thread locker. I would recommend Rocksett for best results.