SingleStackHawaii

I have seen and shot quite a few CZ's from the CZ Custom Shop. I personally own the CTS LSP. They are all great guns and I would bet the new Shadows are going to be great too.

It looks like it should be legal based on the video from DAA's website. However, if you are not 100% sold on the PDR, I absolutely love my BOSS Holster from Ben Stoeger Pro Shop. I have a BOSS for both my Single Stack and Production rigs. Absolutely wonderful holsters IMHO.

Thank you, Shadyscott. I'm glad you jumped in on the topic. I was really confused on the matter of stroking for SS. Can I ask if you know if DNROI gave an explanation with their answer. I'm just curious is all.

Thanks for your comments.

I give a shit. Moreover, isnt this the rules section of the forum? I thouht this topic would be interesting to discuss becuase we have not seen anything like this in single stack before. Akai is taking some very clever ideas and trying to sell them as single stack legal. But are those ideas actually legal? I will be honest, I don't think the rule book provides adequate information to definitively rule if the gun in question is legal or not. Such is why I posted here; to hear what yall had to say with regards to the rule book and the gun in question. In my own view: Does it violate the written rules of single stack? Maybe, I am not 100% sure. Does it, in my personal view, violate the spirit of single stack? Yes, unquestionably.

Thanks for brining that up. I think that is very important. And that would seem to allow stroking. However, the rules continue to say, "Cuts that are designed to specifically or significantly lighten the slide, such as holes, or slots, are ruled as competitive advantage and prohibited." Indeed short slided 1911's have been stroked in the past. Stroking a goverment 1911 is untraditional compaired to stroking a shorter slide 1911. Moreover, Akai is specifically selling "stroked" single stack goverment 1911's as being "flatter" shooting than un-stroked 1911's. Thus, wouldn't stroking a goverment model 1911 be illegal because it provides a specific competitive advantage?

Positive comments so far, thanks. However, I would like to direct the conversation to a point I feel has gone unaddressed: Is stroking a government model in single stack legal?

Akai posted a very cool single stack 1911 on Facebook recently. He maintained that this gun was legal for USPSA single stack division. Despite being very cool, I have mixed feelings about this gun. What do yall think? Per USPSA rules, is this gun legal for single stack? This is what Akai said on Facebook about the gun in question: "This may be the most badass single stack out there. The gun is stroked, lightened, tri-topped, fat grip and still within USPSA rules. About as close we as we can get to our Limited guns while staying within the rules. 40.6OZ with an empty mag. Has steel MSH and full length stainless guiderod." Here is where I question its legality per USPSA rules: 1. Where and how is it "lightened?" 2. Is stroking a slide legal for a goverment model in single stack? 3. How long is the dust cover? Is it under 3.25" measured from the back of the slide stop pin? Lastly, I would like to point out that per USPSA rules for single stack, "Slide lightening, cuts ports, or any milling deemed to provide a competitive advantage." is not legal. Is slide stroking exempt from this rule? Pictures attached are of the gun in question. These pictures were posted by Akai on his Facebook.

Thanks for all the input guys. I really appreciate it. I was 99.99% sure I was correct, but I wanted to hear other voices on the matter. Especially since the MD was adamant that the penalty applied.

Thanks for the response, Bill. The MD was convinced that such a rule existed in the rule book, but he did not produce anything to support his claim.

At a club match this past weekend a shooter received a procedural for shooting a steel plate from between the target sticks of a paper target. The procedural was backed up by the MD. I have attached an image that gives a simplified example of the shooter's view and shooting location. (Sorry, I'm not very good with SketchUp, but I wanted to include a visual aid to help explain the situation I am trying to describe). As far as I know target sticks are clearly outlined in rule 9.1.7 (Target sticks are neither Hard Cover nor Soft Cover. Shots which have passed wholly or partially through target sticks and which hit a paper or metal target will count for score or penalty, as the case may be.). To me this means the RO and MD were in the wrong. Am I missing something?