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I dunno. I started with what I had guns for, RFPO and OPN. I had been shooting USPSA, so I had the belt/holster/pouches/etc. I have lots of handguns, but they all fit into the same Divisions. Five for OPN and three for RFPO. Years later I later bought a rimfire rifle and a PCC so I could compete in more Divisions. If you are a noob, bring what you have. I let a noob shoot his CZ75 TS from low ready (not for score) to try it out. He loved it. A couple of matches later he had the rig.

I shoot RFPO, RFRO, PCCO and OPN, just because I can. I may add LO if that becomes a thing in SCSA.

Back when going to 15 vs. full mag was being debated, I said it was a worthless change. There were many, very vocal supporters of the change. I still say it will not add any Prod shooters to the mix. Prod shooters started to defect when CO became a thing. Then, when CO changed to allow 140mm mags and heavier guns, Prod died. It even diminished Open numbers. Only a little at first. They were Open minor shooters who could not see sights. Now some Open major shooters are defecting. Some Open major shooters are going to LO. So, by the end of this year USPSA will essentially be an optical sighted 9mm game.

There are ways around that. For example, the PA State Trap shoot hires local high school students to do the scoring, loading the traps, picking up spent shells, etc. Works like a charm. There are usually more girls than boys. When I was Treasurer at my local Trap club, we hired the girls from 7-11. We paid them $11/hr. back then. It was more than they made at 7-11, so they always arranged their work schedule so they would be available for our matches. They did a tremendous job. Shooters loved them. They each took an average of $30 home in tips, on top of their pay.

The Walther results are exactly what one would expect from a slow powder. As the load goes up, so does the pressure. More consistency. I wouldn't be happy with 13.91, but it isn't terrible. The 5gr. load for the PCC is too hot for the buffer weight and spring you are using. It is opening too soon and you are losing pressure. But the pound of Competition you found. Make up some mouse fart sub-minor loads and use them for SCSA. You will find it makes a difference in you time.

I read 4.1 as requiring painting between shooters. If you are shooting two guns you are essentially two competitors. At all the LI SCSA matches I shoot, you are never allowed to shoot back to back, even though the rule book allows for LI.

You can DNF any stage you want. No need to play games with miss stop plate.

American Select data has always been sparse from Alliant. Personally, I wouldn't use it. I've used in 45ACP. Never in 9mm. I prefer Alliant e3, Alliant Sport Pistol and Accurate N0.2 for 130~132 PF 9mm. N320 is good also. Competition isn't going to get you there. However, it will be great for a dedicated SCSA PCC sub-minor load. Here is Competition loading data. Sorry. The PDF is too large to post here. You can get limited data here. https://hodgdonreloading.com/rldc/ Send an email to zzt@earthlink.net and I'll attach the Accurate Manual. I'm currently using AA2 because Sport Pistol was so hard to come by. Frankly, I cannot tell the difference. AA2 meters like water. Forget Titegroup. Hot and dirty. Ordering a pound of anything online will kill you with the Hazmat and shipping. See if you can find AA2, SP or N320 locally. Another to try is N330. That powder was specifically designed for 9mm. Here is the VV manual. It was small enough to attach. Vihtavuori Reloading Guide - Edition 12.pdf

Thumb rests are to locate your hand the same way every time you grip the gun. They are not for recoil control. If you are pushing on the rest to stop muzzle rise, the gun will dip low on the return. You don't gain a thing.

My CZ 75 TS 40 fed 1.126" to 1.180" OALs with 100% reliability.

I will say again, developing one 132 PF load for all three guns using CFE is going to be impossible. It is a slow powder. You are already seeing significant velocity differences between the two pistols. Wait until you chrono the PCC. You will have even more velocity. You will probably not like the recoil even if you have 11 oz. of buffer, weights and spring behind a heavy bolt. You have some N320. Put the CFE away and try that. You will come much closer to your goals. If you cannot find more N320, Sport Pistol or AA2 are excellent substitutes. You will find your SDs match the Syntech. So, you have two choices. You can suffer along with your CFE because you have a lot of it. Or you can use a much more suitable powder. Tinkering with OAL is not your problem. Your powder choice is.

We do just that is the training sessions we put on for our USPSA and SCSA shooters. It only works for dry fire, because firing noise drowns out the speakers. It was interesting to me that at the start of the session, some shooters could not draw, acquire the target and fire in 2.4 seconds. We kept at it drill after drill until a majority could beat the buzzer at 1.4 seconds. Faster splits are simply a matter of tuning your gun to your load. If you have your spring rates set correctly and your gun returns to zero promptly. All you have to do is pull the trigger again, quickly. BYW, I shoot Open major. With Open minor, splits are a just a bit longer.

I'm 76 and mine does. Work on it. BTW, I should have mentioned that N320 is very much better than TiteGroup for ports.

Well, I'm number 1 minus. I've never shot outside my Area. If fact, I've never shot USPSA outside my State. I no longer shoot LII and LIII matches because I don't like how they are run. SCSA is a different story. I don't care one whit about Classification anymore. For years the clubs I shoot at had Classifiers requiring weak hand shooting. Mine does not work properly. Now there are New Classifiers that involve movement and are more like regular stages. I might regain interest. As far as slots go, my main club was begging people to take slots last year. They didn't all get used.

There is a difference between a ported barrel and a compensator. With a compensator, you definitely want more gas. More gas, up to a point, makes the gun shoot softer. Barrel ports work differently. They make the gun shoot flatter, and a tad softer. Flatter because you are directing a portion of the propellent gasses up to counted muzzle rise. Softer because the portion directed up cannot jet out the front of the barrel. So, there is less recoil. Shooting factory 115 9mm or 124 out of your ported barrel will work just fine. Since you have N320 and 124s, use the published max load. I personally think that is the best trade off. You can try loading some of your CFE. You will produce more gas. The gun will shoot a little flatter, but will hit your hand harder. Not worth it IMO. I shoot the equivalent of the N320 load and the muzzle barely rises. You can do splits under 0.1 seconds and everything lands in the A zone. PFs of 140+ are not going to be as good as 132 PF. a 115 @ 1130/1150 if fine. So is a 124 @ 1050. I don't like 147s. The slide seems to take so long to close I could take a nap in between shots. If you are shooting knock down steel, 147s are good. For quick double taps you want 115s or 124s.

Seating and crimping in two steps are key if you have a 5-staion or more press. The Lee FCD does a splendid job of crimping and sizing the neck. As I mentioned, you could have your Hellcat barrel throated. Inexpensive. About $20 if your gunsmith already has the reamer. Chasing single digit SDs is touch. You have a start in using same HS brass. If your operation of the press is smooth, that is another plus. Next is seating. Several bullets and shapes will not seat to a constant OAL. That makes a difference. Then there is powder. You have been told that using CFE for 132 PF loads is not optimal. If you make a ladder of loads from 132 PF up through 144 PF, you should see a continuing improvement in SDs as the PF goes up. More pressure equals a better, cleaner, more complete burn.

If the PCC and Walther are happy with the OAL you were using, throat the Hellcat barrel so it takes the same.

Running a buffer just short strokes the slide. I don't use them. What don't you like about your 11 lb. spring? As long as ejection and feeding are 100% and the gun returns to zero, why change. If the muzzle dips when the slide closes, go to the next lighter spring until it doesn't. If the muzzle returns high, you need a heavier spring.

If you cannot spin the round in the chamber with your fingers, it is touching the lands. Alternately, you can plunk one of your shorter OAL rounds in to see where the case end rests. The do the same with longer OALs and see where they land.

I'm with Zack. I'm Distinguished Senior also. Fortunately, even though the peak time adjustment took away a bunch of faster 2021 times, I still maintain Class. If I could not, I'd ask for a reclassification. If I were a GM/M it would be embarrassing to see my name under a bunch of A and B shooters in Overall. Several shooters I shoot with have this philosophy. If peak adjustment knocks them down a Class, they maintain it as long as they improve enough during the season to be legit.

If USPSA falls by the wayside, all three clubs I shoot USPSA at would continue to hold USPSA style matches using those rules. Heck. Half the shooters would prefer no classifiers at all. Half of the other half are fine with them, as long as they are the newer ones with movement. As I mentioned earlier, if an outlaw match adheres to USPSA rules, I'm fine with it. I did shoot one outlaw match at a club I will never go to again. A shooter uncased his PCC while up range, held it horizontally and loaded it while walking to the start box. He swept three people including a friend. When my friend reported this to the MD, expecting a DQ, he was told they play by big boy rules. No DQ. We have never shot there since.

The only gun I could shoot in two divisions is LO, then Open. They have to make LO legal first. As far as two gun shooters, we do it all the time. The club I shoot SCSA at allows two guns per shooter, even though the match is held on two days. Some people want to shoot more than two guns. I am almost always on a squad with four or five additional shooters, all shooting two guns. We run through once, then again for the second gun. It goes like clockwork. Sure, the Timing or Scoring RO has to help out with painting sometimes, but it doesn't hold anything up. We never hold the next squad up unless we were significantly held up by a previous squad. If a club only allows one gun, I don't bother going.

Precision makes nice coated bullets. So, I don't think it is them. I have tried to make one 9mm minor round that was perfect in both the PCC and pistol. Hasn't worked out. Try this. Take ten sized and deprimed cases. Seat a bullet at 1.150" OAL. Drop it into the chamber. If the bullet rests on the lands, decrease the OAL until it does not. That will be the max OAL you can use for that bullet in that gun. Load the other 9 cases to the same OAL. Load them in a mag and cycle them trough the PCC. Make sure you slingshot the charging handle so you get the maximum force going forward. Measure the OAL when finished to see if there is any setback. If no, you are good to go. If yes, experiment with shorter OALs. Magic marker your feed ramp if there is one. If not, mark the chamfer around the chamber and the rear of the barrel. You want to see where the bullet nose is striking. Adjust OAL until the bullet feeds directly into the chamber. If you have a feed ramp, the bullet should strike halfway up. I'm willing to bet that you get occasional setback with your short OAL. Setback increases the pressure and the resultant velocity. That is going to raise your SDs. I seat and crimp in separate operations using the Lee FCD crimp die. I now have zero setback issues. CFE burns at the same rate as AutoComp. It is the fastest of the Open major powders. Try selling it to an Open shooter. Powders like Sport Pistol, N320 or Competition are muck better suited to minor loads. You keep the pressure up for 124/5gr 132 PF loads and get a much cleaner, more consistent burn. Any of these powders will reduce your SDs.

That explains what happened at on club I shoot at. The members wanted alternating USPSA and SCSA matches. They shoot Mar thru Nov. 9 matches. They did that for a while and USPSA said nope. Shoot more USPSA matches. So now they have 9 USPSA matches and SCSA only on months with a 5th Saturday.

FWIW, my home club is not affiliated with any orgs other than NRA and CMP. I run monthly 2-stage action matches on the pistol (bullseye) range. We use USPSA rules, plus one club rule. We use USPSA and IPSC targets. We use Practiscore for scoring. I shoot USPSA, so the rule set was a natural. So were the targets. We place barrels at each firing position so shooters may stage their mags. When I first started this, only three of us shot USPSA. We were the only three with holsters and mag pouches. Now, every shooter except one wears a belt with holster and mag pouches. At least nine joined USPSA and now shoot in sanctioned matches. Everyone knows the relevant rules. Shooting in these matches and following the rules gave these shooters the confidence they needed to shoot sanctioned matches. Same with our steel matches and the Summer steel league. Surrender draw and SCSA rules. Twelve of our shooters now compete in sanctioned SCSA matches. So, I don't think hit factor matches or even outlaw matches hurt USPSA as long as you are using their rule set. I think it helps a lot. Plus, you can draw USPSA shooters to them. We have six new to us USPSA shooters now shooting our matches.