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Bradgsrx, have you put pictures of your port on here? I'd like to see what it looks like if you wouldn't mind. This could be a deal breaker for me. Twins are fast, but quads are where I have an extra edge on a lot of other shooters. Too bad to have such a great gun and mess it up on one part. Not to say the gun isn't still awesome, but a gun that can't quad load easily isn't a gun I am looking to fork money out on. I'm hoping someone on here has figured a way to make it work, because I really want this gun.. I haven't seen any videos on YouTube or anything of people loading this gun for speed. If anyone knows of any or if any brave soul would like to give it a try, send me a link please! Cabelas is having a sale on them up until the end of Wednesday. There are a few 24" ones in stock, so I'm trying to make a decision on it quickly.

Looking at retiring my 930 to a backup gun position for one of these. Shot one earlier this month at a match and was very impressed, but had a major problem with quad loading it. Shells kept on getting hung up on that edge, and that looks like a common problem most are having. I've read through the thread and have seen all the pictures of the opened loading ports, which would be a must have for me. Just wanted to see if this has been a real fix for getting quads in FAST? If you take your time, you can quad load anything, but can you get this gun to the feeling of an open ported Benelli, 930, SLP etc.. Or is that lip always going to be a speed hindrance?

If you manage to hear of any matches near the end of July in your area, and happen to remember, would you mind sending me a PM with the info? I'll be doing some looking, but help is always nice. Good luck and have fun at your match!

Great starting set up! It looks a lot like my own gear list. I have the same vortex PST 1-4, CR speed belt, Smith and Wesson M&P pro 5", and a mossberg 930, but it's the Rhythm model. I have family in the Minneapolis and St. Paul area that I'm going to go see this summer and have been looking at finding a match to hit while I am there. Really wanted to get in on the Nordic shotgun match, but it was well beyond filled by the time I started looking into it. Does Forest lake have a match every month?

I don't think I'd be anywhere close to this level if it wasn't for the more experienced shooters helping me out. And even though it's still very new for me, I'm often sharing techniques and tips when it's helpful, and I couldn't be happier than to do so. At this last match, there were four of us that were constantly separated by a second or two on most of the stages. And even with that want to win, everyone was still helping each other out and one of the guys even gave me some extra .223 so I'd for sure be able to finish out the last two stages. (I had a stage reshoot that burned up my extra 40 rounds I brought)

I started competition shooting back in January and have been going to 3 gun matches about twice a month since. Last month I ran into my first classifiers without knowing exactly what they were until someone explained them to me. I was having troubles with my shotgun and didn't have a 3 gun nation membership, so I was more focused/frustrated trying to diagnosing my shotgun problems than trying to go all out on the stages. I heard we were doing another classifier this month and thought I had been doing well enough to go ahead and get a 3 gun nation membership to get myself placed among other shooters across the country. It was the last stage of the day and I was the second to last shooter to get to go. I stepped up in the box, heard the beep, and everything went extremely smooth from there. One of the guys in the other squad told me it was the fastest time of the day, so I was feeling pretty good about myself because we had some awesome shooters at the match. I got an email later that night saying the scores had been posted to 3 gun nation, so I went to take a look. I was scrolling down the first page of the top 20 scores for the stage and saw Keith Garcia's name, then right below it, just .03 seconds off his time, I saw mine. Not only that, but it says I'm classified as a pro?! I know I have been progressing quickly over 3 months(mostly due to the extremely nice experienced shooters sharing their knowledge and reading things on this forum), but I was still extremely surprised! It's awesome being classified as a pro already, but I think it would've been nice to work my way up to this point, also. Now the only place to go is Expert I believe, which seems like it'll be a bit harder to move up to than it would say from marksmen to high marks or something. Just looks like I'll really have to work hard for getting up to the next class! Anyways, just thought I'd share on here because telling this to my non shooting friends didn't draw the understanding I would've liked when trying to express my excitement on the matter haha

Making up for fumbled shells has been a proven time waster compared to the extra half second to find my target again after looking down while reloading. I can see this becoming a good method though, and it was a good way to prove just how consistent my reloads are getting. I also tried it out while on the move and had the same results. I have a match this weekend, I might give it a chance.

I was talking with a few guys who are running traditional shotgun shell caddie about the pros and cons between traditional and quad loading. One point that was brought up was with the traditional caddie system you could look at targets and surroundings since it doesn't take the same amount of visual attention quad loading seems to require. I saw their point after realizing they seem to have their heads up a lot of the time while reloading, which definitely gives you a leg up on engaging your next target quicker and just extra situational awareness. I decided to do a little test, so I put on my belt and gave it a shot. I did a couple visual warm ups, then proceeded to reload while looking straight ahead at the wall and relaying on muscle memory. It went surprising well, being able to easily get under 3.5 right away, then took this video on my 3rd reload. Everything was completely normal except remounting the gun took me the slightest bit longer than normal. Point is I don't think quad loading needs to be visual either, just like traditional caddies. I still think I'll be looking down at my gun during matches thought for a little bit longer. Do you guys think it'll be worth it in the future to look up and get the benefits of seeing while reloading, or best to look down at the reload and minimize the fumble chances?

Gondo, you're much better than me in that case. I needed more of a warm up than just 3 to get that 3 second load. I don't think 15+ reloads is irrelevant when it comes to the sake of practice though. The match is where the "one chance" situation comes into play, practice is where you get to try as many times as you want. These were just attempts to see how fast I could physically do it. Match settings I'll be a bit more deliberate and not go pedal to the floor the whole time, and that's what the other 90% of my practice is focused on. Great reload, would like to see what you could do after a 15+ warm up! Alma, I'll try that if I end up posting another video. Thanks!

How did you guys add videos straight to the thread instead of just links?

Alma, although mine's faster, that's still a very smooth looking load. I do like how Jesse is good at both of the styles and I wouldn't mind venturing into that style again, but is there any situation where I would have to do a strong hand? Besides if my weak hand were to get hurt or something, I'm not seeing where I'd use it? Not to say it's not a good thing to know how to do. Gondo, was that a flat 3 second par time? Awesome reload! Just noticed your caddies are positioned in a different place than mine, never thought of doing that.

It really doesn't take too long to get ahold of quad loading. The one fortunate thing about just starting 3 gun is that I didn't know anything different, unlike a lot of these guys trying to give up traditional caddie loading and learning something new. I tried keeping the stock on the shoulder and going strong hand, but this way just seemed to flow a lot better for me. The shoulder loading style looks like it works out well for Jesse, so you can be fast with either way.

And here's a 2.6 attempt right after that 2.8. So close. I tried incorporating that thumb trick you were talking about Alma, thanks for that! I'll quit this whole speed thing after I get to 2.5 ha

Not much a a leap, but tonight I'm .20 of a second faster it looks like. I guess 3 seconds wasn't a brick wall after all haha

Thanks for the link! Cool to see it made its way all the way there in not a whole lot of time.