Not a joke, Vince received a commission from sales of IPSC "Patron" memberships. Vince was the sole creator, salesman, and administrator for that program, to the best of my knowledge. He's never denied it, to his credit. But he never accounts for his fee when he quotes the fundraising figures until prompted, which is a bit disingenuous (by omission) in my humble opinion. I can link you to threads on Vince's own forum in which he discusses the Patron program and his commission, if you like. Sent from my ONEPLUS A6003 using Tapatalk