Gregg K
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19 hours ago, joseywales said:
The T-Minus club in Albany TX ran SCSA for just a few months...not sure what happened for them to stop SC.
Anyway, it's where I saw these diagrams w/descriptions.
Stage diagram printed & attached to a target stand on each stage. About 18x24".
Here's the Outer Limits diagram with OL setup in the background.
Professionally done, and pretty damn cool.
Since they aren't using them anymore have them send them down to me in San Antonio.
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@joseywales Thanks for the link.
For me, I don't have any need for the diagram or the briefing and I understand why some just don't care.
We have been trying to get some new shooters out to shoot steel with us and some of them need a little help and the diagrams with the names would be helpful for some of them. I have to be honest, there were many times starting out that I could not tell you the name of the stages or remember how I shot them the last time. Most of us have been at this so long that we don't remember what the first few times were like when we were the new guy.
I figured that some nice laminated diagrams would help the new guys and gals plus just might make it look a little more professional.
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2 hours ago, joseywales said:
And if you look at the stage diagram in the appendices, there is no procedural description on any of the stage diagrams, OL & SHO procedures are described elsewhere in rulebook.
I asked Zack about this and he suggested using the briefing that Practiscore gives us. It's a good briefing in Practiscore, I just wish it was coming from the rule book.
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I never really noticed the rule 3.2 that says a written stage briefing should be available at each stage. I figured that somewhere someone has a document with the stage diagrams with the required briefing on a single sheet. My plan was to just print them out and have them laminated to stick up at each stage.
Do any of you have a document that has the requirements that can just be printed? Someone has to have done this before.
The WSB's are in Practiscore. If someone has Adobe to add the WSB to the diagrams, that would be nice.
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Unfortunately the rules call them a "Flag" and not a chamber flag. I once asked for a rule change to make it "Chamber Flag" and define it as something that actually goes in the chamber. I was shot down on the idea so this is why we have just anything stuck into the gun including trimmer line.
I will suggest a reason to flag rimfire pistols. Of all our guns a rimfire is the most likely to not extract a round, it is so common that they even made a rule to fire out the stuck round. We all have seen "cleared" guns go bang at the hammer down. A rimfire pistol is the most likely to get off the line with a live round in the chamber since we don't do the final check with the hammer down command. A chamber flag would insure that a rimfire pistol extracted the round but there again, only an actual chamber flag that goes in the chamber would do that.
If your gun gets so hot at a Steel Challenge match that you can melt a chamber flag then you are missing way too many shots and need to practice more.
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For your intended use, the EOTech is heavy and expensive and not the best for a game gun.
I have had and seen too many problems with the Romeo plus the price is not a good value.
Like @Haywizzle I would look at the 2 Holosun choices he mentions, they are a good value and very durable and great for a game gun. Both of the Holosuns can be had in green as well as red.
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I've been down this road. I would get everything 1/4" 500 or 550 and not look back. On down the road you won't have any junk mixed in with your good steel. Like they say "cry once".
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I had some that were visibly warped and some that split apart some at the joint between the 2 halves. I called S&W and they had no problem replacing them but I think it took 6 or 7 weeks so you getting some new ones first is a good idea.
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On 2/2/2024 at 6:59 PM, GKB said:
I hand loaded 25 rd mags, but I didn't have to load after every stage. I switched to a McFadden Lightening Loader when I switched to 10s.
While handy, I have found that using the McFadden loader accelerates the wear on the end of the feed lips, I use the loader on practice mags but never on my match mags.
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I noticed that the load assist bar that goes through he follower would sometimes drag so I just removed the load assist button completely and just stick a screwdriver blade in the hole to load the mags. No more drag
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1 hour ago, zzt said:
Funny, but not the worst I've heard.
I have actually been told "going hot, gas it up" so it does get worse.
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Thank You! I really appreciate the huge amount of thought and time that this took to put together.
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6 minutes ago, shred said:
For me the footing on OL made a much bigger difference. Shoot that on a nice smooth concrete floor versus a mudded, cratered dirt bay and compare.
O' great, now you have me trying to figure out how to pour a concrete pad for the shooting area on OL.
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It's good to experience different clubs and get used to when things aren't perfect and just focus on the shooting. I have been to matches where you had to stand off to one side of the box to keep the targets from overlapping which is stretching things too much in my book
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1 hour ago, Hoops said:
How could USPSA dictate to a club which type matches to run?
To reaffiliate a club is required to hold a minimum of seven USPSA matches with four separate matches offering at least one classifier stage. The requirements for an SCSA affiliate are to run three SCSA matches a year, and to include at least two of the eight official stages in each match.
Since they are having monthly matches it would seem that they would have been able to meet the USPSA minimums without cutting SCSA matches unless this is a club that pretty much gets shutdown in the winter months.
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4 hours ago, RickT said:
The MD generally does a good job and there are plenty of people there for setup, myself included, but he's a my way or the highway guy. I'd bring my own paint, but he would never allow that, etc., etc . Volunteering to square up the setup prior to start of match would put us further up his "black list". I made a reasonable, polite suggestion regarding one particular match where he limited the headcount without sending out a prior notification and all I got in return was a nasty response.
We don't have enough matches around here to bail out of this one so we're stuck.
Evidentially your MD isn't into the sport enough to frequent this board
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I have seen some pretty strange things over the years regarding stage setups. I used to shoot a match at a club that never could get the stages setup right. They setup the day before and was a 55 mile trip for me so I didn't participate in the setup but would get there early enough to make corrections. Sometimes it was hard to even recognize the stage from looking at it. I was that PITA guy for that club. They didn't really care about it being right, they just didn't want to be called out on the improper layout. After the match you would have to hound the MD for a month or more to get them to send in the scores. I gave up on that club and now we are both happier. If a club claims to be official, I expect an effort to be made to actually be official. The stages won't always be perfect but I expect some effort be made to get it mostly right.
I worry that if too many outlaw matches send in scores like @Dr. Phil mentions with 3 foot spacing on Outer Limits that it could impact peak times. I don't know if scores from the local level have any effect on peak time or if it is only based off the world shoots.
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12 hours ago, Hoops said:
@Gregg K I took @Squirrel45’s comment to be that he was agreeing that everyone should know their rank and that SCSA org has all the data electronically, therefore with some programming it shouldn’t be hard to provide (by org).
I'm sure you are correct and I totally misread the post. My apologies.
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4 hours ago, Squirrel45 said:
Honestly everyone should know where they rank.
Really, how? (Secret Squirrel list?)
I have a 100% time and when I look at one of the top shooters in the top 20 and calculate his percentage it comes out to be 152%. How many after the top 20 are shooting 100%? Are there 200 people shooting 100%? Other than knowing that I'm MILES away from the top guys I have no idea how far down the list I fall. With a name I can go calculate someones percentage but who is in the top 100? They have the data, I would like to see it.
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13 minutes ago, Hoops said:
Would it be also be better for the GM class to be shown as their actual percentages over 100? Example: 115.35%.
thanks
Everybody else's percentages are the actual number, no reason that GM should not be. We can figure this out but there is no reason to make us go hunt it down.
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On 10/25/2023 at 1:54 PM, zzt said:
Glad I bought TK spares for everything. Good thing. I tossed all the Ruger feed lips and rotors.
You could have at least "tossed" them my way.
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2 hours ago, zzt said:
YHou don't have to tighten the spring 2 full turns, but it has to be more than what Ruger recommends.
I don't know what Ruger recommends and what they do in their factory mags probably changes with each batch but the last 2 value packs of 3 that I bought from Ruger were wound to 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 turns out of the box. There are so many variables involved that you probably just need to run what you find to work with your combination.
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2 hours ago, RickT said:
I'm suspicious of the springs on the receiver plunger that retains the mags so I've changed these springs. It's either the mag moving slightly out of alignment or something slowing the bolt down IMO.
I have replaced the magazine latch plunger spring with a Kidd higher tension plunger spring.
https://www.kiddinnovativedesign.com/Magazine-Latch-Plunger-Spring--Higher-Tension_p_421.html
Also, is your barrel a Kidd as well or at least a full length and not a sleeved barrel? I have also had best luck with HV rounds and a standard or extra strength recoil spring.
As mentioned you may as well just get a double mag body and try it. You'll spend more money on ammo just trying to figure this out than what a mag body costs.
Require Painting in Tier 1 Matches?
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If they don't allow painting then it isn't a sanctioned match. As others have pointed out 4.1 covers this. You say it isn't a cost issue but I think that it is a factor. At $6 for a good can of paint and $1 fee to upload scores I don't see how they could do it for the $5 fee.
While most clubs do tend to ignore 4.1 if the shooters don't care and are willing to accept the calls of the RO, I have never heard of one that forbids painting.