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.45 major,.38super before .40 or 9mm,just my .2cents For the money a COLT ENHANCED with factory notched trigger guard,flat tip slide,beveled magwell and three dot sights with a trigger job and quality bushing is what ive run with great success and cheaper than $3000 for an STI/SVI semi/full custom.

That is cool but that isn't the one I cant find on youtube again. competitors were doing pushups and throwing a kettle bell and the range was outdoors but they were in a bay with walls and there was a backstop not a dirt mound. that is all I can remember I thought I saved it but I didn't. I wanted to put on a similar match at out private club here in Volusia Florida but I cannot find that video. it was extreme to say the least, the emphasis was more on anaerobic activites than aerobic. if I find it I will post it.

Hello, I ran my BUSHY XM-15 in USCA TWO-GUN and my trigger after a full day feels gritty and heavy. Besides a Geissele or Timney what is the most cost effective route for a trigger job? Any links to a step by step and parts would be great.

Hello, I had found something new to me on youtube but lost the link. It was a pistol shooting competition where the competitors had to shoot under stress. They did pushups in between strings and used Kettle bells. They had to throw heavy objects etc. What association is this or what is it called,im going to try and ask my gun club to host such an event. Thank you in advance

You guys are making me feel guilty about not buying the KIMBER. I guess i am kind of buying what i want too. But i just dont want her to compete and be frustrated with FTE/FTFs and then have to wait while i sell on gunbroker. Maybe if someone local has a KIMBER and is a member of Volusia gun club and lets her shoot a box of ammo through different mags maybe i will reconsider...man...i cant even have her look at this forum all you guys are on her side..LMAO Do you know how much money she has cost me over our relationship? Im sure if you have a misses you know and since the 1911 is not a pair of shoes or jewelry im going to make sure its something that will last and she can enjoy competing with

No no i should have made it clear she competes in USPSA as well as steel challenge. She "prefers" to have an aesthetically pleasing 1911 (KIMBER PRO RAPTOR II TWOTONE) than my plain blued Colts. So shes not being pretentious about it, shes needs it to be reliable since we shoot often and out a member of Volusia gun/hunt club. Ive already heard the the late 1990 Kimbers are the eay to go and when they went external extractors they had teething problems so im not sure i would buy a new Kimber now regardless. I had someone PM me who is local and give me some good names for smiths who can do my crowning/cutting/checkering so if all else fails im just going to build yet another 1911 custom. I never owned a Kimber and the fit and finish was acceptable for a $900 O.T.D. KIMBER PRO RAPTOR TWO it has a two-tone finish, looked like a matte silver frame with a black slide and light colored rosewood grips,it is very easy on the eyes. However im not going to buy it when i could find a used BAER for a few hundred dollars more and know that it will be a reliable tack driver. Thank you guys for all the help. Im not buying a KIMBER.

I have considered my 1st Dan Wesson or STI,leaning more to the STI single stacks. I wondered what happened to the older all steel ROCK RIVERS (not rock island) they were such a great 1911 and now that they ar AR-builders they dont deal with the old all steel 1911s i guess. The old NORINCOS (said to be made of railroad track steel) were a great platform for a custom build as well but those have dried up as well. Its odd how semi-production customs are what fills magazine articles and they are just part changers with spray/bake finish,RAIL and G-10/micarta grips with not much emphasis on reliability/accuracy. Key criteria that her 1911 needs: 1) flat top slide (our Comp-Tac is for flat tops and we like the low glare especially here in sunny florida) 2) front and rear checkering 20-30LPI and if the back of the slide is checkered thats an aesthetic plus 3) non-rail and a plus would be a full dust cover like STI/BAER MONOLITH 4) dehorned with tight fit/finish 5) barrel lug,bushing and general lockup tight 6) hammer hooks/SEAR stoned 90* ,trigger 4-4.5lbs 7) NON M.I.M. (tool steel A2) Disco/sear,slide catch and extended mag release 6) quality iron sights (do not need fiber optic nor night sights,just competiton target sights) plus would be dove tailed front in case we want to swap it out. You would think with all the "custom shops" out there someone would make a competition "practical" or "target" pistol with these features since 1911 owners upgrade to these mods,so why not offer them from the factory? Since people like different checkering etc, just give options upon ordering and then custom tailor the sights and checkering or make them an option as a different model nomenclature. It looks like im going to have to buy another used 1911 and build it to her preferences. NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM and WILSON,BAER,BROWN,HEIRLOOM all have models we like just not with all the features on one and for $4000, i may as well just have one built in the finish with the checkering,hammer,trigger,sights of her choice. I did have oneother question i heard DAVE PRUITT (GRANDMASTER) did some gunsmithing and he is local to me, does anyone have one of his customs or know someone who has had him do some work? He has a great reputation as a competitor and a general nice guy,it would be great to hear how his custom work is. Thank you guys formyour input and happy holidays

Thank you for the referral, but the website is very dark and not laid out well to illustrate their custom work. It took me a while to fimd the drop down box in upper left hand corner,i hope their smithing is better than their webmaster

Really because i see Mag spring,nothing about extended mag release which is visiible. Also i was asking about spring rate since the guide rods would be legal that was my full question. How about just a yes or no,instead of the forensics. Can you use a metal round style non-OEM mag release? LEGAL? NOT LEGAL? Any other part which is NOT visible when the gun is in battery is considered an internal part, MAY be modified or replaced with OEM or aftermarket parts. (Appendix D4, Rule 21.5) Guide Rod Recoil Spring Striker Spacer sleeve Firing pin spring Spring cups Firing pin safety Firing pin safety spring Magazine Catch Spring Extractor Depressor Plunger Extractor Depressor Plunger Spring Slide Lock Spring (but not slide lock lever) Locking Block Trigger Mechanism Housing Ejector Connector Trigger Spring Trigger Bar Channel Liner Externally Visible Parts (OEM/Aftermarket) Sights, firing pins, firing pin retainers, extractors and ejectors MAY be replaced with OEM or aftermarket parts. (Appendix D4, Rule 21.6) Sights Frame pins? Extractor

Hello, I recently switched from a glock-19 to G-34 for steel challenge and USPSA. So as i understand i cannot put a zevtech extended mag release "metal" on my glock-19 but i could use a plastic mag release since the G34 comes with a plastic extended mag release correct? Since the guide rod isnt visible in battery can i use a zevtech S.S. or tungsten guide rod and if so what rate (lbs) spring would be adventageous using in the G-19 or G34? Titanium ejector anybody have a personal experience running one? I already have ZEVTECH spring kit and skeletonized trigger connector and on my smiths guage we got 3.9lb average not 3.5 but it is much better than 5.5-factory. The trigger reset click did suffer with the trigger spring vs stock ive noticed. Thank you in advance Nobody had pics soi figure i would add one of my ZEV parts before the FLITZ and dremel.

Yeah i know im at that point of just buying the KIMBER but im going to email her all the negative stuff and just buy one i like..lol I thought it was a good idea for her to get involved in my competiton shooting until i realized its double the ammo,gear,fees etc. ABERNATHY im not familiar with,are they top shelf or just promoted by a Pro? I found a NIGHTHAWK TALON cheap,i know its basically the guys who jumped ship from Wilson,so are they worth the money? I guess i need to take a second look at STI.

WOW,ive heard of some external extractor issues and fit and finish blemishes as well as the poor customer service, but SENDING YOU THE WRONG PISTOL?? How is that possible/LEGAL? Well i needed your post to show my misses that it isnt a true custom and to stop reading "kimber forum" posts,of course they are going to not admit they have a fair 1911. Thank you for your honesty Hey, thanks for the follow up. I'm sure to have P.O.ed some Kimber owners but I can only tell you my experience. I knew nothing about 1911s before I bought my first Kimber. I bought it because it was by far the nicest "looking" 1911 in the case. Now, after having bought and sold dozens of 1911/2011s and fired well over 100,000 rounds in competition, practice, plinking, etc thru 1911 pistols over 20 years I can tell you that there are a lot of companies that make great 1911s. All of them let lemons out into the market. My experience and the experience of many folks I know is that Kimber seems to let out FAR MORE of them. Good luck in the hunt for the Mrs. next 1911. My wife has an STI Guardian, Trojan, and Tactical, all in 9mm that she loves!Cheers WOW,ive heard of some external extractor issues and fit and finish blemishes as well as the poor customer service, but SENDING YOU THE WRONG PISTOL?? How is that possible/LEGAL?Well i needed your post to show my misses that it isnt a true custom and to stop reading "kimber forum" posts,of course they are going to not admit they have a fair 1911. Thank you for your honesty Hey, thanks for the follow up. I'm sure to have P.O.ed some Kimber owners but I can only tell you my experience. I knew nothing about 1911s before I bought my first Kimber. I bought it because it was by far the nicest "looking" 1911 in the case. Now, after having bought and sold dozens of 1911/2011s and fired well over 100,000 rounds in competition, practice, plinking, etc thru 1911 pistols over 20 years I can tell you that there are a lot of companies that make great 1911s. All of them let lemons out into the market. My experience and the experience of many folks I know is that Kimber seems to let out FAR MORE of them. Good luck in the hunt for the Mrs. next 1911. My wife has an STI Guardian, Trojan, and Tactical, all in 9mm that she loves!Cheers Wow,thank you for fast reply. I live in florida and we have year round,bowling pin,steel challenge,two-gun and steel challemge matches,so every pistol we have is far from a safe queen. I like to "buy once,cry once" thats why im buying a KORTH/ Revolver since my buddy has 40k rounds with no frame stretch. I rather spend the money once like "snap-on" tools or BELL&ROSS watches and have them last for a generation.i dont want to pay $1200 for a Kimber and have it nickel and dime me so i appreciate your honesty. Since you know her criteria it has to "look" as good as it is functional. She doesnt like any of my COLTs they are too "vanilla"for her That "tommygun" .40 1911,pro raptor and Nighthawk customs are the only ones she has seemed to like so far. ROGERS customs look nice but we are not a fan of spray and bake rail guns..HEIRLOOM/YOST is an option but the wait time is too long,we compete the first saturday of every month,so i would like to find a link,show her and buy it knowing its going to be bulletproof. Any links you can post of maybe a lesser known 1911 custom builder who does great work. I had a THOROUGHBRED 1911 i have pictures of that she liked but i sold back when 1911heaven closed in arizona,BOB PATTISON was a great gunsmith just not a people person and he went out of business. But there has to be someone out there who is a great smith and can build a forged 1911,with flat top slide,notched trigger guard ,30LPI checkering without the 16month wait. Any ideas for me? We do like full dust cover SVI/STI but i think some shooting associations dont allow full dust covers. Hell one newbie came with his pistol with a flashlight on it since thats the only holster he had and they made him shoot OPEN because they considered the flashlight a added weight for reduced muzzle flip..lmao he was shooting like 10sec strings.

She uses my Glock-34 which i won production division with. My COLT ENHANCED CUSTOM she recently shot and did very well with,its a tack driver to 35yards which is more than we need for STEEL CHALLENGE which we do more than practical matches or two-gun. Since i run my 1911 in single stack and my glock in production, she uses her glock-19 and now wants to run S.S. division as well since its only $5 more to compete and you get alot more out of the match running two divisions. I should be more specific. Ive looked at used BAERS,BROWNS,and NIGHTHAWK for middle priced 1911s and older steel ROCK RIVER & older Norincos,caspian/springer combo 1911s for around the $1000-1300range. None of the latter have a notched trigger guard,beveled magwell,flat top slide,checkering etc. I dont want to spend money on a "KIMBER" to have to spend additional money and time to get it to run 100%. i have had 0-failures with my Colt and only one stove pipe on another because i had a bad purchase on the grip and dragged my thumb on the slide,hence why i sometimes use the old school thumb slide guards. I saw a .40cal 1911 in a mag recently and cannot remember the custom builder but it had a Swenson ambi thumb safety that acted as a thumb slide guard as well,a very cool,trick set up. However when i did google search i couldnt find one for sale. It says TOMMYGUN on the slide and Todd jarret shoots one in .40. Anyone know who sels this exact "Tommy gun" model .40 1911? I bet its a full custom price but we dont have a budget so please post links to options for an ultra reliable steel challenge 1911 that she could cross over and do some USPSA/IDPA div matches with maybe as well. Ive seen some use Baers for a reasonable price,but you know women she wants it to have that "grand raptor" look,cool checkering,front serrations (she does occassionally chamber check) if not in condition-1. The kimber pro raptors i have to say are a good looking 1911 but since ive never shot or owned a Kimber and from what i hear i think im going to have to either buy a NIGHTHAWK or BAER custom. Any other options? Im open to both major and minor calibers,9mm,.40,personally i think a 1911 should be a .45 its like putting a ford engine in a chevelle otherwise but hey thats just me. here is my single stack tool with 44*crown/flush cut,Briley spherical,FLGR,narrow hood,infinity disco/triglide,etc etc: ...

WOW,ive heard of some external extractor issues and fit and finish blemishes as well as the poor customer service, but SENDING YOU THE WRONG PISTOL?? How is that possible/LEGAL? Well i needed your post to show my misses that it isnt a true custom and to stop reading "kimber forum" posts,of course they are going to not admit they have a fair 1911. Thank you for your honesty

My misses "wants" this KIMBER PRO RAPTOR II "custom shop" 1911 Ive searched many forums to no avail. I cannot find a simple yes or no answer to whether or not KIMBER physically has a "CUSTOM SHOP"? I think they are a decent production semi-custom at best,however my misses shot a friends "custom" pro raptor II,it had a matte black slide but a brushed satin silver frame and light wood grips,chain link checkering,ambi safety,night sights and a bushingless barrel in a commander size 1911 for $899. I found one that is 90% N.R.A. Condition at local gunshop. I was surprised that KIMBER doesnt have an EMAIL customer service address for those of us who work at nights and cant call during operating hours. I much rather buy an older all steel ROCK RIVER or older NORINCO or another COLT enhanced and modify it with non-M.I.M. Tool steel internals etc and know what im getting. but since its for my misses i want to get the opinion of someone who owns or has owned a KIMBER CUSTOM and whether or not it is just a marketing ploy for a production 1911 with checkering/ext-controls. Ive never owned a KIMBER so can someone please give me a YES or NO answer if there is an actual CUSTOM SHOP?

What is "U" unclassified?----- I finally ran in steel challenge with my 1911 custom..it was fun but my GLOCK is so much easier. I hate to admit that because my 1911 is so sweet..i think i may finally sell my 1911 and just run my glocks.

Let me guess are you shooting LOW or LEFT?

I finally found a grandmaster who had one and i put it on my custom Colt.

Thank you for the link: http://www.shootingsportsinnovations.com/NITRO-FIN-2011-STI-SV-Slide-Lock-Thumb-Rest-NF17-4.htm However i also wanted to find the old school style THUMB SLIDE GUARD without having to replace plunger tube style for my Strong hand thumb as well Here is one on my old COLTOFFICER 1911 Or i do like the idea of the SWENSON thumb slide guard integral to the thumbsafety. I layer my thumbs on my GLOCK while competing but cannot use that same grip on my 1911 so i use a thumbs up outrigger style grip and i think the swenson thumb safety with slide guard is a great idea but it only comes in AMBI. Does anyone know a LINK where i can buy the old style THUMB SLIDE GUARD or a thumb safety like this that is not AMBI? Here is what im looking for if i cannot find the old style that i sold with my Officer, i think this is a great idea because under stress from a draw i have found i sometimes when shooting prone i touch my strong hand thumb to slide by accident.since it is integral to the thumb safety i wonder how it would affect modifications for steel challenge,USPSA and IDPA? http://www.powerfactorshooting.com/Sweenson_Ambi_Safety_p/sweenson-ambi-safety.htm

Thank you for the compliment. Ive had EGW,KINGS,Ed brown "custom fitted" however- Nothing compares to the obvious accuracy of BRILEY. If you would have told me i would have thought you were working for briley and just hyping the bushing. However it accurate put to ranges that you would be using your rifle at that point 50yards. The crown must help with evacuating gases because the muzzle flip is just a bit more than my GLOCK34 with 9mm NATO cartridges! Anyone who shoots in florida i would allow to shoot my 1911 to see for yourself because i still cannot believe it. Im almost considering having BRILEY build me one of their LIMITED/OPEN division 1911/2011s

Ive seen the WAKI on i believe an old CZ or tanfoglio years back as well. But maybe it was just that T-style. Also fellas i cannot find another "thumb slide guard" for my 1911, i dont layer my thumbs on my 1911s like i do my glock because when i switch between the two shooting two divisions it messes with my grip. So i shoot well thumbs up "outrigger style" grip. I seen a shooting pro using is THUMB SAFETY with intergral slide guard so you can rest your strong hand thumb without worrying aout slowing down the slide. http://www.powerfactorshooting.com/Sweenson_Ambi_Safety_p/sweenson-ambi-safety.htm I dont want to replace my PLUNGER TUBE to have a thumb slide guard and i dont want an AMBI safety. If anyone has or knows someone who can sell me a new/USED 1911 thumb slide guard whether it be theold 1970s style or this new thumb safety style I really want another one. I sold my last one on a customized officer and i should have kept it. Thumb slide guard im looking for on my old officer:

Oh, i used to race motocross and C-class was usually B-class sandbaggers and A-class were guys who were as good as pros just not yet sponsored. Im going to actuallystart practicing and get a better holster than my cheap factory glock holster that is too close to my body to draw comfortably. I think having a better holster will help since that is my main challenge is a consistant draw stroke/miscle memory. Thanks for the info on C-class

I have a blackhawk plastic for my Glocks and i have a leather FBI 15* CANT holster for my 1911. So i dont have any bolts, but a spacer makes sense. What do people use as a do-it-yourself spacer for a leather holster? Just something wdged between belt and holster to bring away from body? I saw the $89.99 BLADETECH I.D.P.A. Kit but there is no info on if you get it dropped/out if itis legal for IDPA/USPSA/STEEL CHALLENGE. Thank you for video i will check it out. - just watched video im sold..its perfect..thank you

Hello, Well i used my 1911 for the first time in STEEL CHALLENGE. I ran a few great stages then realized my holster wasnt through my right hand side last belt loop. After that it seemed it was too far back and i had to adjust my grip losing time and more than 3times i had grip safety issues due to my grip. Even the R.O. Said it looked like i completely changed my grip when i adjusted my holster. problem #1 when you wear it the "legal" way being the front most portion of hip bone i have to jab my strong hand thumb between my "love handle area" in order to get a grip. Problem #2 the holster at that point is so close to my body that i grip it someway that doesnt allow me to 100% disengage grip safety. I have never had grip safety issues and ive already chamfered the tip where it meets the bow. I dont want to disable it,because i eventually wanna run it in IDPA and i cannot "PIN IT". I used a girls elastic hair tie just to be sure and VOILA i never had an issue other than the holster feels more comfortable and easier to access when i dont go through that last RH loop. But then the Holster can move fore and aft a bit. What is the best HOLSTER for single stack/limit ten that isnt a race holster which will push my 1911- an inch or so away from my body creating a gap to get my grip consistant? I dont mind leather or kydex,i was using a leather holster but when i run my Glocks i have kydex, so i am open to either. If you can post a link and manufacturer name/price of a holster for a 1911 that will work for competitons where i need to draw, it would be much appreciated. Thank you

Nice job for the first time out.Zack explained how the scoring works for you. Your % looks like about 47% nationally right in the heart of C class. That is a good start. Thank you for explanation C is good? Thats almost the lowest "d" It was alot different than Steel Challenge thats for sure.