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Nothing like the good old S&A grips, a 1911 deserves the beauty of wood and they are reasonable priced. Great guy to deal with as well.
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Nice looking pistols. Are the frames and grips steel ?
Thanks in advance.
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That would be a easy fix to improve.
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I agree. I noticed the street prices the other the day and they look promising. Allows a lot of room for folks that want to do their custom touches.
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I agree that it is a good chance to take hard working folks money and there are many that will do just that. Feed someone some mumbo-jumbo that for this amount, we can make your pistol better. The price point will allow it. Try it first before throwing away money, buy ammo and get better that way.
Looking for a true and honest range report from someone. We already know it is not a Staccato, but is there that much difference in the two. People have bought the Staccato's and started changing parts as well. Looking forward to the reports.
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I know folks like to spend money on their pistols, and I have been one of them myself, but it kind of defeats the purpose of spend less money on the lower priced 2011's. Do the work yourselves, it really is not that tough and a great way to learn and feel more pride in your pistol.
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Guy, thanks for trying to give the engineering facts and I am glad you did ! Great job Guy.
Tommy Roupe
THR Technologies/Roupe Grips
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Build your own, it is not that hard, just need to go very slow and have patience if you never done it before.
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Was the grip a hard fit or easy switch ?
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Keep up the good work brother, you are lucky to be at a great department that supports your idea's. Be safe out there.
Tommy Roupe
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Springfield started the renaming the pistol as a P-9 to get into the high cap game in the early days. Todd was shooting the Para and then Virgil Tripp and Chip McCormick brought the new High cap later to become STI. I had all of them, the P9 was to violent in 9x21 and did not last long (broken slide stops), Para's were big in the hand, and the Chip McCormicks were here to stay, even with multiple name changes and owners. I remember folks shot the Para without grips and Kim in Florida came out with small fillers for the offset in the Para frames, which worked pretty well.
Blake Gann was building Todd's pistols back in the day and even weld a small tab on the frames to cover the trigger bow with no grips. FIPT was the first time I had seen Robbie's and Doug's P9's.
Long time ago for sure.
Tommy Roupe
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That is Chucks magic. He defines world class and is respected by other world class smiths. It is a very limited world that Chuck operates in.
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Chuck is a artist with metal ! Chuck is one of the finest 1911 builders going and there has been many top name smiths that has learned a few tricks from Chuck. I am proud to say I know Chuck and his work is truly world class. I give Chuck credit for a few things that I have done over the years, of coarse not on the same level, but I was not afraid to try it.
Chuck is also a great guy, period. If you have a Chuck Rogers 1911, feel lucky.
Tommy Roupe
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Well said.
Whish I had the luck of the Viet Nam vet on Roadshow Antigue the other evening, he had a Rolex he had bought in Thialand for $375 approx and put it in a safety deposit box and never wore it, with all of the paperwork. The same watch today was valued at over 700K. Unbelievable. I agree that if a 4K pistol makes you think you can shoot better , then do it.
This is a mental game in shooting and if the more expensive pistols helps your mind in the game, do it. But in reality, the cheaper pistol could serve the same purpose of putting holes in the target if it is reliable.
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Love it, keep up the great job. I hate it for the shooters that try and spend there way to wins. Then, I hate it even more for good folks that spend that type of money and end up with that type of service from what is the high dollar guns. The CoolAid is not always what the hype is meant to be believed.
Bottom line, if you can afford it and want it, get it. Do be warned that you don't always get what you pay for. This is a sport with a lot of hype from some. There was a reason Springfield brought out a pistol at a lower price point than Staccato. The market is big enough to sustain the lower priced pistols and if the lower priced pistols were not good enough, you would not see such great companies, such as EGW and Dawson Precision offering parts for them. I can tell you from personal experience and knowing both George and Dave, that those two wizards of this market would not invest in something that will just sit on the shelf.
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Another hater, what is new. If it is not the big name, it is junk. Whatever ! Now I am yawning, my money , my junk.
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Thank you for the kind comment. I have been very fortunate in my shooting days, have shot with the best and proud of being able to call many my friends. I don't shoot much anymore and I am not upset about it. Age does it to all of us. I just do not remember ever being the way I see so many of these shooters acting today. In my day, you could walk up to Dougie, Robby, Todd and Jerry and say hello, and they would carry on a conversation with you. Things change in life and I do understand that, just would like to know the answer to the arrogance and cockiness and where it comes from. I can say that not all are like that and when you get to speak with young folks in the sport that are not carrying those bad traits, boy do they stand out. I know my opinion does not matter to many, but would just like a answer to the changes over the years.
Curious for sure,
Tommy Roupe
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Thanks Trace, hope all is well out your way Brother. Be safe.
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I am glad there are folks that don't cough at a $4000 pistol and it is even better for the folks making the profit on those types of pistols. Just can't see it in my eyes. Off of the shelf guns can do a lot with practice. Bullets and practice. Be careful on the classes as well. Don't fall into the fast guy, egomaniacs that could never win a title, but claim to teach you how to be a champion.
I am old and have spent thousands, and I mean thousand on this sport. It has been good to me, not for wins and losses on the lower levels, but for the friends that I have made over the years, folks I am proud to say I know and have known. The best was when we started to get the names on our shirts on the back. Must be a better shot at a championship or just a ego boost.
The ego's are worse than I have ever seen now days. The very reason I don't shoot much anymore. If I shoot a match today, it is for the soul reason to get together with my old shooting friends and laugh at the ego monsters. If you can afford it, buy it. You worked hard for your money, but do remember. It won't put you at the top because you spent crazy money on a work of art, unless you are Hunter Biden and you are the seller of the Art.
There are a handful of shooters out there that those type of pistols can makes a difference in their hand only.
Sorry for the rant, just my opinion and thousands and thousands spent over the years. But the friends and memories were good.
Tommy Roupe
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Sight blocks are always a good idea if you can stand the weight. Can be very flat, simple physics.
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That Sir is the truth. I remember when I started very long ago, I always wanted the latest and greatest. My first smith always told me, the late David Pegram, a top smith in his time would say " spend your money on bullets". I never forgot that from David.
Springfield has made many great pistols over the years, but I do have to say, once you step into a full custom it can give you a boost, if nothing more than in your mind. Make the Prodigy what you want, and by fine tuning to your tastes is just as good.
I remember one time when Robbie shot a EL Pres with a stock 1911 compared to his race gun. The times were not that much different.
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Not trying to side track this post in any way, but you folks don't sell yourselves short as being just C and B class shooters. If it was not for you all, the sport would not be were it is at, and the Pridigy's would not have the same sales. Give yourselves more credit for the support and Springfield for a good pistol. Don't forget Robbie and Todd were there once, not very long mind you, but started somewhere.
Keep up the good work B, C, and D shooters.
Keep it fun and safe,
Tommy Roupe
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I like the looks of these. After years and thousands of grip mods done all over the world, these are the ticket for a 1911. SSI is a great company to deal with and has supported the industry for many years.
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Turkey is making some very nice options. Picked up 2 of the MIC benelli copies. Very nice.
Which 9mm pistols are flattest shooting?
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Heavy pistols are going to shoot flat, simple physics.