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I like a taper crimp of .370, or less, on my 38 short colts with .358" bullets. Even go to .370"+ on my 9mm semi auto loads with no loss of accuracy.

Yes we do, it's an issue with all revolvers to one degree or the other. Even 44 caliber 240 lrn with crimp groove would back out when shooting major, it would take a couple of cylinders to do say 10 times. Some bullets are worse than others, Jacketed with a cannelure about the same as the 44's. Jacketed & Plated without a cannelure can start walking out in as few as one cylinder. Most times it's only a few thousands, but especially with plated you can see as it starts to leave the crimp groove left by the crimping. You can't crimp deep enough to totally eliminate it either, going too heavy on a Jacketed will likely buckle the case, on a plated you can pierce the plating leading to separation. Actually had that happen at the 2008 USPSA Revolver Nationals, 2 shots left 3 bullet holes in the target and I felt the difference, to the point I hesitated expecting the RO to stop me but he didn't and I continued on. Cliff and I even checked my barrel to make sure it wasn't bulged. The heavier the bullet the worse the issue. Lead or Coated seem to be affected the least and the long bearing surface on the 145+ I use means they won't back out and tie up the cylinder. Now the 9mm being a tapered case is one I've not used. I can surmise the taper can actually incrementally increase the speed of the non-fired cases upon firing and enhance pull out. Combined with factory rounds usually being jacketed & short bearing surface bullets and designed to resist push in on feeding can actually be a perfect storm leading to some of the reports. Some factory loads used to have a sealant on the jacketed bullets that may help, but don't know if anyone does that anymore. The case wall thickness can also have an effect. In decades past some 38 super brass was too thin and wouldn't grip bullets and we avoided them. My suggestion for 9mm is to use a single brand of brass, for competition at least don't use Starline or range brass, seems I heard Federal is good. Then load 145+ grain bullets, loaded to a length that won't bulge a case yet leaves as much bearing surface as possible to be gripped by the case. Taper Crimp very tight, say under .370". Do all of those and you shouldn't have to worry about a gun being tied up in a cylinder full. Note I usually take the extra 38 short colt rounds from moon clips and use them for practice. Short answer you can't expect good results from your 9mm semi-auto ammo and most factory rounds, to get the most reliable rounds you will need to take extra efforts at handloading. And the 929 is most accurate with .358" lead/coated bullets or .357" jacketed, though I've had decent luck with some .355" jacketed in my 627's just depends on manufacturer. The barrels on both the 627 and 929 have the same bore dimensions.

Ft Scott is nice too

I'm in a3 and i am not upset, not even surprised. I just worry about finding reasonably priced primers.

I've used them 1.180" oal in a m28 and 2 627's. Good prices and good shipping. Fwiw I like black bullet internationals better, a little cheaper and in my guns a bit more accurate. Think due to sizing. But it could be me or my guns. You won't be disappointed.

What is the 1) lowest functional action weight you've created, 2) lowest ultra reliable, with just polishing and spring changes, and 3) do you feel any real difference under match pressure? With my s&w's it's 1) 4.5 lbs, 2) 6 lbs 3) don't notice it much, but since I'm a constant tinkerer I use the lightest to see how long it will last. So far 2 years. Mo ftf with fed spp, even magnum.

Toolguy on this forum makes one too.

I think the big issue it solved was the bullet falling out as the shell plate rotated. The 9mm funnels are.356, uniquetek makes a .356 for 9mm and a .358 for 38's. That extra .002" stopped the problem. All of them can be made to over, or under, flare a case. Some have a more subtle flare giving you the ability to flare slower.

Uniquetek makes one I use.

If you're using a dillon powder measure i think it's uniquetek that has a powder drop expander for.358 bullets. It does make a difference.

Try crimping to.370

Now looks like a 627pc, do like that look.

Measure the extractor groove. If you do.

For the 627 most of us use starline 38 brass, short colt, special and 357 magnum all have the same groove diameter and fit best with the tk moons made for them. There are some that work with other brands of brass. Do a search as I believe it was part of a thread a while back.

Oh man this is so relevant to a recent argument i had within our local uspsa club board! Wish I'd found it then. Glad you handled it well and didn't let it get into your head. As for the op, I started in 1978, burnt out in 1996, came back with revolver division after 2001, now my focus is icore even started a club. Really enjoy the slower pace. Still doing uspsa, just not as obsessed.

Clean it thoroughly then try a side plate shim from ron powers.

Will mwp post video himself?

Now you're talking

But the upside is, I've got plenty of elbow room!

Out here in the hinterlands of fly over country, it's not so cut and dried. Before retirement had a situation where I couldn't make the times the local post office was open, 2 to 4 pm only, and that turned into a weeklong adventure in tracking it down. Post office solved that issue, closed down the office a decade ago now.

You could have it delivered to a fed ex business, or a local dealer, and pick it up there. A local hardware store here has done this for me.

Congratulations, look forward to seeing it.

The only damage to be done would be if you try to load a Starline fitting clip with ww, rp or some other brand case that is too tight. I've bent one trying to do that. It seemed to spring back, but if left that way It could take a set. The normal tight clip/case fit wont spring a clip. A more worrisome issue is as cases are fired multiple times I've noticed at some point the fit gets off and the moon won't drop in freely. Change rounds and they do. I surmise it's due to burrs in the groove.

Hard part is finding a revolver to fit the case!

I have in glocks and 1911 with lighter jacketed bullets. But in revolvers it's 38 short colts.