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Old thread, I know. But it hasn't been updated, so I thought I would contribute. Ballistic Advantage also makes a very nice AR10 barrel for the 6.5 CM in 18", 20", and 22" lengths. They offer the barrel in. "Hansen" profile. Which is like a straight taper bolt gun barrel. It's essentially made like most of the other barrels out there in 416R stainless steel and button rifling. They offer a 1" MoA guarantee as well. So they have some confidence in their quality. It's worth taking a look. http://ballisticadvantage.com/22-inch-6-5-rifle-ss-premium-barrel.html

I have a blueprinted PT&G action. Just got it a few weeks ago. I clarified that they had the donor actions in stock before ordering. They acknowledged their past short-comings and assured me they had multitudes of short action 700s in stock. After placing my order, mine arrived at the gunshop I work at in 9 weeks. It's very good quality. I lathered it up in Dykem to check the fit of the lugs and races. Lock up was perfect with full contact on the lugs. The tolerance on the races feels smooth and quite honestly, perfect. Just waiting on my barrel from Black Hole Weaponry which is still about a week or two out, then the whole thing goes into an XLR Evolution chassis, with Seekins 20 MoA base and 34mm rings, topped off with a Burris XTR II in mil/mil with the SCR.

I second the DPMS Gen II. Fantastic rifles. The Armalite just looks like it's had a facelift and some fancier accessories. It's still the same components inside.

I just said this on another post, but I love the XTR II in the 1.5-8. The difference between 1x and 1.5x is non-existent to me. I leave both eyes open and hose. But I very much like the 8x on top. I shoot exponentially better on the long hard targets than I used to. Glass is excellent. I love the BDC reticle for 3 gun. I also really like the daylight bright illumination, I flip it on for close stuff. I know everyone values features differently, but for me, it's a perfect feature set. And it's under $1000.

I've been running the 1.5-8 Burris XTR II's on a couple of different rifles for over a year now. I love the extra magnification. I can say without a hint of doubt that I shoot better with it. I spin the spinner better, pick up the longer targets faster, etc. I only had one makeup shot at the MGM Ironman this year on the long range stage 3. I missed the first shot in the 12mph crosser from the top of the slide at the 440 yard 10" flasher. Then went one for one for the rest of the top then the bottom of the slide. The XTR II sells for a hair under 1k and is a hell of a nice scope for 3 gun.

Warne Skel II and the new Burris PEPR run around 6 ozs. Both offer a 34mm.

^^ This I have the Ergo with the Palm Shelf on my 308 AR10 and my 6.5 Creedmoor PRS rifle with the XLR Evolution chassis.

I have ran an 18" 308 SASS for the last two years at the Ironman without issues. I've always come out pretty well ahead from the time perspective. The hits aren't difficult. The transition can be slow with the 900 yard target low in the valley to the right, then the 720 high on the hillside left, with the 550 medium height middle. But the shots themselves aren't too tough. The three bonus targets on stage 7 are usually the same yardage strung in a row. I think they were 690 this year. I don't see why a mag fed bolt gun wouldn't be effective as well. Plug in a round and close the bolt, then feed the mag. 11 rounds is plenty to get 9 hits. If you go dry before you're done it's only 5 seconds to reload and get back to shooting. I'm strongly considering using my PRS rifle in next year's Ironman. It's far easier to be accurate with a bolt gun.

This isn't true. You'll only finish in last if you are a last place shooter. I shot my entire first season with an 18" 308 SASS. I qualified in the top 40 out of 250 members to earn an invite to the Northwest PRS League Championship. A match that I took a bolt gun to. Yes, the 308 is not as competitive as the 6 and 6.5mm's. The gas gun makes it worse. But a good shot can still do well. Indian before arrow. Run the gasser in some matches and learn the ropes. At the end of the day, if you want to be the most competitive shooter you can, you will need a faster, flatter caliber in a bolt gun. Learn the game on a 308 gas gun and a 6.5 Creedmoor or something similar will feel like cheating.

Pretty much this. I have Kimber Pro Carry that I carry every day. Shoots great, never malfunctions, no complaints.

I agree with you here. Sometimes you have to make folks stick to the intent of the stage. There is no challenge in a one shot spin. Anyone can do it. I'm all for shotshell restrictions that at least make the shooter put some effort into the target. I disagree....put it further away and test it if you don't want it spun in one shot. You cannot fault a shooter for being smarter than the stage designer, or for being more prepared than the next shooter. If you have a rifle spinner, do you make someone shooting 77gr ammo shoot it an extra time because other people only brought 55gr? There is no failure to do right in 3-gun and the prepared should have the advantage over the lazy and unprepared. Also, there is a challenge in a one shot spin! You are taking a chance typically, the chance that slowing down for that one shot doesn't get you a full value hit and it does NOT spin in one shot, then you're hustling to get it more ammo in the gun and losing time. The risk/reward component can't be discounted because you don't like it. There's a world of difference between spinning the target in 5 to 6 with 75's versus 7 to 8 with 55's, compared to an easy peasy one shot spin with turkey loads. It's apples and oranges. There is challenge in any 100 yard rifle spin, you still have to make the hits. There is no challenge in a one shot shotty spin. It's a simple matter to limit the shotty loads and fix the problem. It is what a lot of clubs and matches are doing. 1350 fps is still an easy two-shot spin.

I agree with you here. Sometimes you have to make folks stick to the intent of the stage. There is no challenge in a one shot spin. Anyone can do it. I'm all for shotshell restrictions that at least make the shooter put some effort into the target.

I have a couple different G-Codes. I have the XST for my 6" STI for 3 gun. And a 5" SOC that has a cowling I can attach so I can put a weapon light on my 1911 or I can run it without. I use the RTI wheel as my attachment as I don't like running around resetting with my handgun on at a match. I just snap it on when it's my turn to shoot. That retention is money for 3 gun.

G2Gemini makes excellent shirts. My shirt from last year was made by them and I beat up it pretty hard with no negative results. My shirt coming from Burris is also G2. My current shirt is Techwear. It's definitely very nice.

I have the G-code XST for my 6" STI. It works great with spring loaded top release. They make it in lefty. http://www.tacticalholsters.com/category/XST.html The issue I have discovered with race holsters is they don't protect the weapon. I've seen a guy or two using one and they put them in the dirt while prone or throne into awkward shooting positions. One guy I know was unholstering and setting the gun on the ground beside him while shooting prone.

At our local matches we capped the shotshells at nothing bigger than #6's and nothing faster than 1350fps, 1 1/8th ozs. We had too many guys using turkey loads and knocking the spinner completely over. I think that's why Travis made it a 100 second penalty to knock over the spinner at Ironman. I shoot the softest stuff I can find. Usually #7.5's at about 1150fps. I hit spinners once on top then double tap the bottom. It goes over every time.

We have ordered several of the BHW 243 LBC barrels here at the shop I work at. Very accurate. I just ordered a 22" 260 Remington bull barrel with full length flutes. Gonna be pretty sexy.

The rebate I'm seeing is only for XTRII's that are 2-10X at the bottom. Is there one specific for the 1-5? Sorry, you are right. I'll edit my above post.

I run a can on my GII SASS, which has a bolt that is .2 ounces lighter than the JP. On some guns you may have to tinker with buffer weight and spring as you can get case head swiping with too light a buffer. On the 223 I just turn my gas down a hair more. No issues with low mass and adjustable gas block.

Burris is cracking out some damn fine optics these days. I run the XTR II 1.5-8x28 on my 3 gun rifles. It's a front focal plain, BDC reticle, daylight bright illumination, 34mm tube. The XTR II 1-5 is a 30mm tube, and also an excellent optic. The BDC reticle on these optics is perfect for 3 gun. One of the best reticles out there for the game. http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-ii-riflescopes-series/xtr-ii-riflescope-1-5x24mm http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-ii-riflescopes-series/xtr-ii-riflescope-1.5-8x28mm These scope are $800 and $1000 respectively.

It does come in a beautiful blue color. Check out the Skel mount from Warne.

The only Versmax's I have ever seen with malfunction issues were the modified ones. Were it me, I would test some other ammo first to see if it is in fact that ammo. If it is the ammo, that stuff would get relegated to practice ammunition and I would shoot the good stuff in matches. I wouldn't go tumbling down the rabbit hole by further modifying the gun which in turn may cause further issues. Just my two cents.

We did that too. We had the owner on the phone several times trying to get these triggers to work. It's not operator error when you follow the instructions and it still doesn't work. Out of the dozen triggers we carry, we never have any issues other than these. What's not to love is out of the half dozen we sold, 4 came back. The display trigger wouldn't function after hours of fiddling with it and getting the owner on the phone, and it costs $250. Which is more expensive than any other trigger we carry. I'm glad at least some of you got a decent one.

Grats on your rifle, she looks pretty sexy. This is one of my competition guns. Not completely JP, but mostly...

That's far closer to my experience than the posters who have actually had good luck with these. We had a rep bring some of these to our shop. So we decided to carry a few, I think we initially bought a half-dozen. I got to talking with the owner and actually got him to give a couple triggers to my girlfriend for her 3 gun rifle in exchange for putting his logo on her shirt. Long story short, everything we sold came back. The two that were given to us we couldn't get to work. The display trigger "followed" or wouldn't reset at all. We exchanged all those for new triggers. The owner claimed he had an employee not doing his job on QC. No change. The new triggers are no better. They are all sitting on a shelf in the back room. If you drop it in and don't touch it, it may work ok. If you try to adjust it you run the risk of it not working at all. They tried to tell us we were the only ones having problems with them. Total BS. We told them all we did was follow their instructions. I disassembled several in an effort to polish them up and make them work. No bueno. For $250............no thanks.....