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  1. I know this is a way old thread but the discussion of aluminum carriers is very rare. I found this in a Google search when I was looking up the Finnish alum carrier. Hmmm, steel inserts...thats a great idea. But really, the best thing to do is electroless nickel plating like Nickle Boron Nitride..a very slick, hard and protective coating. I have a New In Box but old model Smith Enterprises 3.5 ounce aluminum carrier. The underside where it cocks the hammer is supposed to wear out quite fast on these carriers. I can possibly see the bore where the gas rings rub from the bolt wearing out the bore. I plan on having my carrier coated. EN coating of aluminum is supposed to be no real problem according to one company I have been talking to. I have about 200 rounds on my carrier and can see some wear already on the underside. I am using Frog Lube as I hate sloppy wet BCGs. That is why I will need to get my carrier coated eventually. Oh, what sort of buffer and spring are you guys running? I took a carbine weight buffer and took ALL the weights out from inside. You want as little as possible weight dont you? I have an adjustable gas block. My 3 gun functions 100% reliable, but I am still not happy with my recoil. I have a mid length gas 18" fluted SS Wylde chambered barrel that weighs 31 ounces. The whole gun with optics is 5.98 lbs with no magazine. I wish I had bought a rifle length cas system. I have a medium aggressive brake, the pri mstn qc ss brake. The Titan looks way too heavy. I am trying to get more recoil out of te gun with out having to use that heavy Titan. My PRI is heavy enough.
  2. Stark Grips are incredibly ugly. So is my alternative,,but less so IMO. It is sort of a compromise in looks but no compromise in performance. Not at all. Its David Tubbs. UP TIGHT grip. Very pricey but hugely effective! Read a copy and paste my reviewe of the POF EFP trgger. I include my mention and LINK to the "UP TIGHT" Grip! Posted: Today 4:49:45 PM EST [Last Edit: Today 6:22:15 PM EST by bosundave] Update on this incredible trigger! At 3.2 lbs, this is such a dream to shoot. The reset is shorter than my VERY short Geissele SD 3 Gun trigger. That is saying something. The reset is a (blank) hair... just a mm or two...amazing.There is still NO take up, creep or grittiness. It breaks like an icicle. My Geiselle breaks like a carrot. Its so hard to say I prefer one over the other. Suffice to say, they are just different. They are both scathingly fast triggers. At the end of the day, the more expensive Geissle probably edges the POF out. But I would not change a thing. I like the POF right where it is for now..on my competition M4 14.5" DD pencil barrel, 6 lb light weight carbine..all hand built by me. The placement of the finger is so perfect for guys like me with big hands. I have never in all my years experienced a PROPER finger placement. What an incredible experience! "Life changing" you could say. To get my lower (3.2-3.4lb) trigger break weight was easy (stock was 4.5lbs)..I did some just some minor tweaking (bending)of the existing springs and proper lube with Shell number 6 Aviation grease(Areoshell), the exact type that Mr G uses for his 3 Gun triggers. It took only minutes. LOL..do NOT take both of the trigger slip fit bushings out of the module. You will have HELL to pay to try and get those put back in... OMG!! it IS possible, but nothing you would ever want to do even once. It is NOT necessary either. That is the shame of the situation for me...face palm. EDIT #2: If anyone knows of a different way, LMK. But for regular triggers, this grip seems to work the best of any grips. its ugly and expensive, but it works. Watch the video.Guys with BIG HANDS and long fingers like me! Or get ONLY the POF EGP triger for all builds... http://www.davidtubb.com/ar-15-up-tight-composite-grip-black EDIT!!!: I tried over six diffident grips with this specific trigger. I recommend this Hogue grip for guys with big hands ONLY if it is paired with THE POF EFP trigger. http://www.amazon.com/Hogue-Rubber-Beavertail-Finger-Grooves/dp/B007LUUIAO/ref=pd_sbs_sg_1 It is the perfect companion. Trust me. Yes, i tried the MagPull MOE grip with the LARGE insert. Yes, that combination wortked well...great as a matter of fact. But still...the MagPull was .second best. I liked the HOGUE better...much better.
  3. I would like to keep this post going to spread the word on the awesomeness of this trigger. Let me clarify some things. As far as just triggers go, a JP trigger is likely better than the POF EFP trigger. Many say the JP is better than a Geissele. But the POF will do something that no other trigger will do (that I know of). And that is align the pad of the index finger to the trigger bow with a shooter who has huge hands and long fingers. Yes, a bigger pistol grip will help. I cant palm a basket ball, but I am an XL when I buy gloves. So far, every trigger I have used on an AR15 has been located in a spot where I just cant get a good squeeze. My finger always seems to curve around the trigger bow. I did find that the combo of the Ergo LARGE pisto, grip and the POF EFP trigger finally gave me that sweet spot where everything for the very first time seems located perfectly. I ended up buying a new smaller grip, the Hogue with a beaver tail and finger grips. I still have a great hand and finger postion and much more over all control of the weapon than I ever did with the ERGO. That large Egro is just a beast. Only shooters with the absolute most giant hands will find this a better choice than the Hogue. This is s subjective report for shooters with hand size similar to mine. Once you have the right grip the single stage trigger does take some getting used to. I have only used 2 stage and my SD 3 gun is a Hybrid 2 stage. But after a lot of trigger pulls, I love my new single stage POF. Word of warning. If you go to dissasemble it, take out the hammer ONLY. Reassmbling the lower trigegr group on your own is a bit of a night mare. It can be done..eventualy... Bending the hammer springs is a perfect way to get a perfect 3.4 lbs break.NO take up. NO creep, NO gritiness, fastest ever reset. The real gem of the whole thing is the trigger shape and ergonnomics. Buy and use this trigger in good failth and knowledge that it should never let you down.
  4. Yes, this is very much a necro post. Sorry, but I think it may be worthwile for some. LMK. I just now called APA up and Jered well remembers you and actually used the phrase "eat crow". I laughed and told him of your post and read a bit to him. They(APA) do have a new version for AR15's but not in SS. I thought the bolt version which you used would be worth a try. Jered found the LAST ONE in existance in a drawer and sold and shipped it while I spoke to him and his office gal. UPS showed up while we were speaking. How is that for fast shipping? He did say that the comp has about a 6 inch rise which can be controlled by down pressure which is more natural than trying to hold a gun UP like some cases with the SJC Titan which can ovder compensate. IDK about all that. What do you have to say about that? One thing I know to be a fact is that the lighter the brake is the less pendulum effect it has. I have fitted heavy comps on the end of my very light weight(31oz) fluted SS 18" Wylde chamber barrel and its horrible to try and control a fast swing from side to side. Anything reasonably light makes side to side transitions incredibly easier and IMO faster. I have a PRI MSTN QC brake on the way too. I may end up keeping both or selling one of them. I have to try both of them out. I think they should be close in weight which is very important for me. My 3 Gun type AR15 weighs in LESS than 6 lbs even with a Weaver 1-3X optic mounted. The gun is a dream in balance and light weight. Three ounce (3.4ox) Smith bolt carrier and modified JP captured spring (also a Geisslle 3 gun SD trigger and a 6 ounce 15 inch carbon fiber fore arm which i love). With a Syrac adjustable gas block and the right comp this thing should shoot flat and transition like a dream. Thats the idea. I have everything all set except my brake which is going to take some time with trial and error. Thanks for the link. Wish me luck. is anyone intersted in the last available origional Micro Bastard in SS if it doesnt meet my needs? LMK. I paid 138 for it shipped. It may or may not be for sale. EDIT: Dukduk, that is one PRETTY custom fluted barrel you have. I hope my 416R Ss will polish up as well. It has traditional flutes but they are really nicely cut. I just love the look of any kind of lighting cuts
  5. YES!!!! This is SO correct. I GOT the darn thing. I can SEE how an Ego grip could make this trigger too long of a reach for some. But my hand is so large that I need the magpul MIAD with the LARGEST palm swell AND the EFP trigger to make that match in heaven...PERFECTION. I have NEVER been able to place the PAD pf my index finger on a trigger bow on an AR 15..until now. I just LOVE IT!!! I am a bit freaked out over the SINGLE STAGE robot like break. Its hard to explain. The Geissle 3 Gun SD hybrid 2 stage is VERY "organic" for lack of a better word. The POF is ...remote...disengaged. I don't THINK that is a BAD thing..yet, anyways. It is just VERY DIFFERENT. I am getting USED to it. I did not like the 4lb break. Its so different than my Geissle 2 stage 4lb break. So, I bent some spring a little(its reversible) and got a 3.4lb break. I am using the SAME Shell #6 aviation grease as Geisslle uses in his 3 GUN line of triggers. I am going to try Neco black super high moly content grease to see how that is any different. Different grease can really change the 'FEEL" of a precesion trigger like the POF. Any advice guys? (other than shorter posts. Hey, sorry. I am in listening mode now. You guys discuss this trigger and its best uses) I took my 3 Gun Trigger and transplanted it to my new THREE GUN, an 18" SS FLUTED 31 ounce barrel, Carbon Fiber fore arm(six ounces), Carbon Poly upper and lower, 3.5 ounce carrier, one ounce buffer, reduced gas flow, flat shooter that uses "puppy farts" to cycle the action. 5.85 lbs WITH an optic. The POF trigger is not really in a ideal home (Or is it?). I need a lot of advice on how to best utilize what I have. The POF EFP is in very light weight M4rgery...6.3lbs plus depending on optic. 14.5" DD pencil barrel(very accurate..1.25 MOA),, Samson EVO forearm with custom extension. this is an AA PISTON gun with a converted to piston use JP LOW MASS CARRIER...2.5 ounce buffer (built in with the JP Captrued Spring System). Goat fartas power this beast. low recoil and no muzzle flip. NOT used for home defense. NOT used for offensive. Just a plinker and also a tactical gun used in educational settings. I have a very firm SHELF to rest my finger during any 'RUN AND GUN". If that does not wrk well with the 3.4 lb break then I wil fix that. I think I can make it work and still be safe with the ergos that this gun has, plus my SITUATIONAL AWARENESS! This still remains to be seen. This trigger guard will be milled to it fits in place perfectly: http://www.amazon.com/Strike-Industries-Series-Trigger-Guards/dp/B005EIMD7G click on the link to see the SECURE finger placement SHELF I have been talking about.
  6. I am going to hold off buying or mounting the JP sight or any BUIS on my 3 gun build after reading this thread. I am getting a light weight 1-3 Weaver scope for an ultimate lightweight 3 gun build..It will be ultra light even with a meduim profile (fluted, though...31oz) 18 inch SS barrel. Less is more. I have to resist so many tempatations to ADD stuff. Will post mock up soon. This was a VERY informative thread. Thanks all.
  7. Your post makes me want this trigger even more now. I NEED a long reach. I was wondering if the long reach was an illusion or reality. According to you, it IS a goodly distance to get to with your finger. Great..except the price. I wish this was more in line with CMC modular trigger at 160 to 175usd. I see NO discounts anywhere. ONLY POF has them in stock unless someone knows where to find them eleswhere. It is too new to see discounts just yet. 230usd plus shipping is up there with Giessle's finest. Well, at least I will not have to modify this one. I am going to buy it. Will report findings.
  8. Disclaimer: This thread isnt that old that I feel I am necro posting. Also, MANY THANKS to Stre-tch for his review. Ohhh, I get your user name, now...OK... Arnie, I have big hands/long fingers too. I really dont want any contraptions that extend my reach at the grip. I have a Geislle 3 Gun SD trigger I dont want to give up. I have the same over reach issues as you do. But that can be fixed fairly easily with the FLAT SD triggers by a method I devised. BTW, the SD triggers take NO getting used to. The 3 gun trigger is a hybrid 2 stage. Its hard to explain.There is not much of a first stage, but it does exist. It is enough that I have no qualms using it in just about any situation except sniping. I consider it to be an excellent combat trigger..for me anyways. Its not a scary light trigger at all. So, listen. You might want to do what I am going to do. I am going to get my machinist to make me a 7mm(approx) thick bar of steel or aluminum that we will attach some how to the trigger bow....either with tiny flat head screws or tack weld or even JB weld wich really would be permanant. I can have it painted after. The extra thickness (the exact thickness is yet to be determined) will place my finger exactly on the PAD. I will experiment until i get the exact right thickness of course. That trigger will go in my 18inch fluted barrel 3 gun build. In its place on my 14.5 inch barrel piston ARl, I am pretty sure I will get the new POF EFP trigger. I fell in love with it when I first saw it a few days ago. From this thread, now I know it is also a great performing trigger. So, that seals the deal. I dont think the POF, however would make near as good a 3 gun triger as the Geislle SD 3 Gun. It is a hybrid 2 stage at 4.5lbs. it is so smooth it feels like a whole lot less. You can fire it so fast that your gun sounds like a full auto. I think my idea of an add on trimmed metal shim will work quite well. ONE other trigger i MAY get is the Chip McCormick modular. It has a flat bow. First I want to make certain my modification shim to my SD Geiselle will work. I am 99% certain it will be perfect. I want the POF AND the Mc Cormick actually. I need to buld a third AR15 I giuess! Dont know what to do with your big old clumsy finger when in the "ready" mode? Buy and install one of these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EIMD7G/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It is so DIRT cheap, that if you dont like it, you can give it to some one else. Me, persaonally? I always wanted a precise rest for my finger. It looks like a silly thing, but I bet anyone who uses it loves it.. Besides having a rest for your finger in the "ready" position, it is a very nice trigger gaurd as well. I only bring this up becasue it ties into "guys with big hands". One more tip. Cheap lifetime supply of grease used for Geissle 3 gun triiggers is here for only 6 bux. It is Aeroshell #6. Note, he alos used a mobile brand for some of his OTHER triggers. I know areoshell #6 is used for his 3 Gun triggers: Atually, it is enoughfor 100 lifetimes, LOL. http://www.skygeek.com/70026.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_content=70026&utm_campaign=froogle&gclid=COqJmrP3o7gCFY3m7AodAkYAcg or http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/aeroshellgrease.php
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