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The 9mm breech face is slightly smaller than the 38 super, but not by much. You can run the 9mm barrel in the 38 super slide, you might have to change to the 9mm extractor in that 38 slide, and then you may or may not have to tune the extractor depending on how it runs .

Atlas, looking forward to seeing what you come up with. I've been able to talk with another guru on here that is building his own Tanfoglio open guns too, and he has also helped me out greatly with this open platform. I can't thank you guys enough for all the great information on here.

Bingo. Definitely get the 2011. At that money the fit and finish are way better. I've tried some very expensive and great shooting 2011's, but I could not get use to that grip. The CZ and Tanfoglio just feel so much better in my hands, And your right we are somewhat fortunate here in the U.S. to be able to get a little bit better price on the Tanfoglio.

Sorry I missed the Canada situation. Your right here it's the other way around. I haven't heard of anyone having an Eric gold custom Extreme in this country yet, but someone might have one hiding somewhere. And the Extreme is definitely pricing higher than a regular Gold Custom even here too. Only once in a while do I here of a problem with a Trubor. For the most part they are a pretty solid gun.

The fit on any gun can be the best on the planet but there is still a possibility that too light of a recoil spring ( whatever weight that may end up being ) on any major platform may cause premature wear on any model ( 2011, Tanfoglio or other ). The Tanfoglio is definitely an off the shelf open gun and as you said would benefit from the forged frames, slides, compensators made of titanium, etc. However I don't think you can buy a brand new 2011 with all that done to it by a custom gunsmith for under 2000.00. The STI Trubor open gun, which are a great guns, ( to a degree an off the shelf gun and have a much better fit than a Tanfoglio) brand new to the best of my knowledge, are not under 2000.00. One of the reasons some of us choose the Tanfoglio is because of it's affordability, and yes there can be issues with it. But there are also 2011 guns out there at twice the cost, that have had frames and slides crack and were built by fantastic gunsmiths using all the best materials the planet has to offer. So we're all taking a chance when we buy or build are own guns, it just comes down to a personal preference and what platform will work best for us individually. Bedell builds a fantastic gun, I know guys that have them and like them a lot. They are great guns to shoot. In the end it always seems to work out somehow. Thanks again for your input.

R.Elliot, 9.4 grains of 3n38 behind a 125 gr zero and getting a power factor of 170 is really good out of a V8. Usually guys are having to use at least 10.3 to 10.5 grains of 3n38 out of the V8 and V12 ported barrels to get that same 170pf. Just a guess but it may have been the 10lb recoil spring just being a little bit to light, that caused the lugs to go away after only that many rounds. The 2011's can handle the lighter recoil springs but some of the Tanfoglio's aren't able to take the Major loads and also run a lighter spring too. Sorry to hear about your bad experience with the Tanfoglio's, but thank you for sharing your situation on what happened with your guns. It lets us know what we need to keep our eyes out for. Thanks again.

R.Elliot, Were the 38SC open guns V8 or V12 models ?

R.Elliot Just curious on your 38SC open gun, what was your load, power factor, and what recoil spring weight were you using ? TIA.

I have set mine as high as 3.5 lb and as low as 1.5lb, and shoot my best with it set where it is now at 2.5 lb. If you prefer the trigger to be at 1 lb and that works for you, great. As stated above, try not to get hung up on the lightest you can possibly get it to work, you may find a little bit stronger reset has a more positive feed back for you. Try different pull weights and find what feels good to you. Whatever that number ends up being, it does not matter.

Difficult to understand because sometimes slide-bite happens further up on the thumb past the last knuckle and closer to the web of the hand, do to trying to grip as high as you can on the gun. Glocks have been known to bite a few people and that's usually where you see the mark.

I agree with OPENB, in the pictures you posted ( where your thumb position is ) the safety appears to be causing the issue. As was suggested, bring your thumb on top of the safety, since you said that you had inadvertently put the safety into the on position. Or maybe we need a little bit more information as to what is causing this to happen.

Open1215, I hate being in the dark also on what kind of time line am I looking at , so I can somehow plan around it. Agreed a common courtesy to respond to an e-mail and let the person know of the situation on the work being done should be addressed even if they are extremely busy. A few smith's out there believe that because they have a lot of work that it's okay for them not to respond in a timely manner. This is unfortunate because things swing up and down all the time, and it takes years to build a great reputation and days to destroy it. Hopefully he will respond shortly about your gun. In the meantime, motorcycles are important for a lot of people out there too. Good luck with setting up your shop.

2 to 3 months is not quite out of the ordinary depending on the gunsmith. Many of us have had difficult situations with work being done. If it's a great smith, you just have to be patient , and you know in the end you'll be happy with the results. But being able to work on your own stuff will probably give you a bit more satisfaction. Get those machines set-up, and make some chips working on your own gun.

I agree with BrazeauRacing , CZ's are a great gun, have great support, and they are nicer right out of the box. You already have a Shadow, you like it, and you have all the equipment that goes with it. Get another for your backup, this way your comfortable if something happens in the middle of a match. But the Tanfoglio is a great platform also. With a little bit of trigger work it's a wonderful gun to play with. I like how the gun feels, shoots, and it tracks very well for me. As was stated above, availability, parts and support are little bit more difficult to achieve. But if you shoot one and prefer it over your Shadow, than that's the gun for you.

The gun may date back to the mid to late 1990's. Call EAA , give them the serial number, and they should be able to give you a closer date, and let you know what parts are still available for it. eaacorp.com phone # 321-639-4842

joakim , not a problem . Thanks for the info on the new Eric Grauffel Titan hammer. Looks like pre-order delivery is in February. It might be a little while before feedback starts coming in on how it performs and if people like it or not. We'll have to wait and see, but it should be interesting.

It's called the Titan hammer. The cost might be double if it were in Titanium. But then the hammer may be too light and then your back to a stronger spring. But it's something new to try. If I read this correctly It says you have to by the parts separately for the Hammer, ( i.e. Interrupter, Hammer Strut and Pins ). I wonder if he offers an assembled one also, just so you can do more of a drop-in with a little less fitting. Or just buy the hammer separately if you don't want the rest of it. Even better a complete drop-in trigger kit from the hammer spring to the trigger itself and everything in between. All you would have to do is some light polishing and maybe some minor fitting and your shooting.

The prices for the Limited or Stock Tanfo's in .40 or 10mm seem to have leveled off, they are currently around. It's just the 9mm that everyone wants for either Production or even some are using in 3 gun now. Eventually the shipments will catch up with demand. Whenever that is.

$869 and $900 are good prices . There's a 9mm Limited on GunBroker right now and the guy wants $1399.00 Seems like the prices are going up. Or maybe it's just one person trying to shoot for the moon.

This debate will not die in our life time. Pick the caliber you want to shoot , without having to try and convince yourself or anyone else, that you made the right choice with your gun, regardless of whatever the reasons may be, it does not matter, it's nobody else's business. Whether it's 9mm or 38sc , both can be made to shoot equally well. It will always come down to personal preference and how the gun feels in your hands. If this is your first Open gun, try and shoot others before making a decision. There's a possibility you may not like shooting an open gun at all. And If you feel you will have more fun shooting a specific caliber, for whatever reason, than pick that caliber and go have fun. Remember a lot of us are just trying to have some fun when we go shooting. As for the OP, If you want to shoot both steel and open major, Trubor in 9mm and just swap out springs and load.

Dranoel's Caspian looks like it has the Briley compensator on his barrel. They do sell the comps separately for the 2011 platform. They only have a few different variants, but you can view them on the Briley.com web site.

That is a great looking gun carsmovies.

Congrats on the new Limited, these are nice guns. Were you going to put the fiber optic front site on or keep it stock ?

25 pounds, very cool. Thanks scott I appreciate the feedback.

Scott the gun looks great. Were you able to try any slower powders also while testing ? And which recoil spring are you running with the 7.8 grains of Autocomp ?