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I used to run the AP system, but I switched to in invictus practical and never looked back... it allowed me to make the transition to quad loading seamless and allows me to still load twins if I need to, here is my belt for a massive shotgun only match or stage... I run 3 of the 2.8's with a 2.6 for slug and Buck. I still run a couple weak hand load 4's for topping off after missing and screwing up your round count/reloading planning for those "oh sh*t" moments... plus Kevin at IP is about as good as it gets for customer service
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I see, he has them on the inside, closest to the body. In that orientation, the attachment has to slide up to come off. If the tab was attached to the pouch as i had originally though, it would slide down to spontaneously detach.
Still, not sure why either "Tab up on belt" or "tab down on pouch" would be better than each other.
Sounds like the small TMMS would benefit from the locking tab the large ones have.
What are the inadequacies of the ELS belt by itself that you've observed?
Not many, I think it is a great system, but it does seem to limit you to safariland stuff, and I am a big fan of bladetech holsters... that and I already had a bunch of techloks from before I shot 3-gun.
I find it hard to get tight and locked securely for me. Granted I am 6' tall and an athletic 162lbs with a 31-32" waist, so I had a hard time getting the little studs that hold the belt on to lock securely.
Also because the els screw directly to the belt, you need to either have a ton of mounting plates all around the belt, or you need to bust out the screwdriver to change something aroundif it isnt working for you on that stage. With a techlock, i can just take the belt off and move a caddy or pouch to a new spot.
At the end of the day, they all have their benefits, but techlocks with velcro on the back was the most secure for me, and distributed the weight nice and evenly.
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I run the inners on the belt upside down, and outers on the cadies/pouches... I'll take pictures when I get home, but basically I bought 5 sets, which was plenty to make my whole setup modular.
Plus when you do it this way, the tabs to the inners are on top which makes removing a cinch without taking my belt off.
Not sure i agree on this being a good way to approach it in general. With tabs up and mounted to belt, the removal direction is then switched to "down". Then, with the tabs on top and inside, they are more apt to be "Activated" by a lean, a big dude with a gut or any movement that might put pressure on the tab. Then, under gravity/weight, the whole assembly can simply slide downward and off the plate since that is the new direction of removal. Now it if works for you, great, but i would re-think the whole backwards and upside down thing based on that alone.
Well the tabs face up so a gut pushing on them would only lock them in better, you need to pull the tab towards you to unlock. The removal direction is still up... so no worry of gravity doing its thing. Only thing to really worry about is the tabs wearing out as Mark said, but so far they have been reliable.
I was a fan of the els system, but I like being able to quickly take a techlok off and put it on say a wilderness belt, or my backpack hip belt in a pinch is really nice.
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I have never had issues pulling a deuce from my 8ight plates, but I like the idea, mulrick. Right now I have an old AP 4x4 back there, but I might replace it with a horizontal 8ight plate.
Neither have I, but I hated using up part of a 2.8 for slugs or buck in matches that called for it. Rarely have I had the need for more than a couple in a stage and I typically separated them from the rest of the shells, so the 2.6 seemed like a decent option for a dedicated slug and buck caddy. Its is also nice to just have options...
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Setup for a typical stage using all three guns
Pistol and shotgun stage with an oh sh*t weakhand caddy
Shotgun only-replace my holster with a slug or buck IP 2.6
Close up on the IP 2.6 that is normally use for slug or buck
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Here's mine mounted where my holster would be for shotgun only matches
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Just out of curiosity, why would one prefer this over the Eight Plate? I haven't had trouble twins loading off that and I tend to use it precisely for mixed load ammo management (bird on the 12Q, slugs on the Eight Plate, usually).
I just got mine and plan to use it as a slug caddy mounted horizontally behind my holster on my strong side... I will test it out this weekend in real competition but so far practicing in my garage, I like it!
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I run the inners on the belt upside down, and outers on the cadies/pouches... I'll take pictures when I get home, but basically I bought 5 sets, which was plenty to make my whole setup modular.
Plus when you do it this way, the tabs to the inners are on top which makes removing a cinch without taking my belt off.
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I ran a Winchester 1300 for a number of years, I only switched because I started dual and quad loading... that being said, split wise, I can run my 1300 almost as fast as my semi-auto... pump is not a disadvantage in time shot wise, semi's just tend to be wider and be better for loading. Nothing is faster than a winchester pump... they are slick for sure
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damnit, if jesse needs it, I need it!
This loading technique is still evolving. Gotta try and keep up with it. I'm just waiting on a BladeTech or some other larger gear company to make an injection molded version that's more cost effective for the new shooters so they don't have to use toilet brush holders, lol.
Bahahahaha... Jesse I gotta say, I took your advice and contacted Kevin and never looked back.... $75 a holder is nothing to support such a cool guy... I honestly hope the big companies don't start making stuff and put people like him out of business.
Loaders, guns, gear in general is about the cheapest part of the sport. I spend so much more on ammo than anything else. I never get the guys who bitch about the cost of a 2K gun when even at the low end you are feeding it $500 a month in Ammo, shooting 2 matches a month (i'm not even talking 3gun.) My ammo bill last month between practice, 3 gun, trap league, and a couple pistol matches was almost $2K... adds up quick, I guess I need to start reloading... but then when will I have time to shoot???
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I'd go with the Beretta, the recoil isn't that much harder at all once it's broke in. The handguard on a VersaMax is a deal breaker. I don't think you could bevel it enough to make it load well for quad loads.
Hate to break it to you... but you are wrong... the handguard bevels out great, and the Loading port is soooooooo much bigger that quad loading is about a million time better.
Like I said in the Posts above... I had both, I went with the VM for 3G for a reason.
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Well I bought both... Shot both, and decided on the VM.
I liked the weight and feel of 1301, it is lighter, slimmer, and overall a great gun. I own an AL391 and an A303 20ga so I know the beretta's pretty well. My A303 went to argentina for dove hunting and racked up almost 10K shells in 2 weeks, so I know they are well built.
But in the end I went with the VM Competition Tactical. It is the softest shooting 12ga I have ever had a chance to shoot. My splits are faster, slugs are a breeze, shoots POI/POA. The 1301 would bruise my cheek after an all shotgun match. This led to me having a slight flinch... not so with the VM.
Did I mention the VM is fast? Like clear a texas star before it really starts spinning fast? Because the recoil is so insignificant, I am back on the next target quickly and drama free. The loading port is big enough to land a jumbo jet inside, and at least on mine, the trigger is pretty fantastic out of the box. Everyone who shoots mine, loves it.
I sold the 1301...
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Since you live in a free state
Connecticut free state????????????????????????????¿??????????
Well more so than california... even my completely legal pistol scares Sheeple
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I have a 10.5" 300BLK "pistol" since I don't live in a free state, I love it. Way more accurate than 7.63x39, punches with authority, and the recoil is negligible compared to other 30 cal rounds.
It is a bit pricy if you buy factory ammo, but if you reload it is quite cheap.
Since you live in a free state I would really suggest it since a can is also a possibility. Suppressed with sub subsonic ammo is the real way to do it, although I have no complaints.
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To be honest, As a person who Cerakote's on the side for a couple local gun store and FFL's, I'm not all that impressed with the product.
Dont get me wrong, it goes on as advertised, but its wear resistance isn't much better DuraCoat which can be applied at home. They both take a good amount of prep, and the Cerakote is harder faster, so that means you can put it together sooner. But so far in my testing I have't seen much of a difference. This is with factory applied Cerakote as well.
I kinda like the look of worn in guns so I don't mind it. But if you want it to continue looking pretty, get it Type III, no question about it.
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Yeah I run the Timney 3.5lb skeletonized in my match rifle and absolutely love it! Plus I think it looks pretty cool. No Creep, great reset, been 100% reliable through 8K rounds so far. Plus Timney supports the sport, they must have given away 30 or 40 triggers at the 3GN shoot off in Vegas in '13 and that was just to the spectators.
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I have built upwards of 50 or 60 AR's for friends, family and a few customers.
My thing to you would be to really research what you want, buy once cry once. I cant tell you the number of times I have bought parts only to install them and then replace them due to something better/lighter/cooler etc.
Next, set a budget, try to stick to it. I have had a few build get a lot more expensive than I wanted due to me looking at parts, seeing something slightly better and telling myself "its only $30 more." Those $30 start to add up quick and before you know it, that $1200 rifle is $1800.
Finally if you can, buy all the parts at once and put it together quickly... I type this looking at my work bench where there are easily 7 or 8 AR pattern rifles/carbines/pistols in varying states of completeness, some which have been this way for over a year.
Your expectations for this were a little vague, light hunting and plinking can be totally different. Will you be shooting this offhand or off rests/bench? What game do you want to hunt? Gonna have to carry it far? What other AR's do you own? Iron sights or optic?
A good starting point would be a basic forged upper and lower from a reputable company, BCM comes to mind, but almost any will do just fine, (I'd stay away from polymer lowers, but that's just me, to each their own.) A 16" 1/8 twist 223 wylde with mid gas and a medium contour is a great all around barrel (rainier, noveske, loki, Nordic, and Daniel Defense all make great barrels in this configuration. A great Bolt carrier group for the money is the BCM, it is dead nuts reliable. A nice trigger is really key. The ALG defense ACT trigger is a great one for the money too Mil-spec, but smooth. If you step up to a nice single stage modular it will reward you with fantastic feel. CMC makes the best for the money in my opinion. After that everything else is really a personal preference based on looks/cost/ergos.
Also you will need a vise, a reaction rod or upper block kit, a torque wrench, some roll pin punches, and a AR15 wrench... oh and plastic bags (I like to assemble my lowers in a big gallon ziplock bag so I don't send springs and detents flying across the shop to never be found again.)
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I have dummies. The 1100 won't spit them out of the magazine onto the elevator for some reason. Tried with empties, but they aren't good practice because the way the front is from the crimp. I'm just extra careful and use an old vest for a safe direction. Good looking out though mulrick
Ahhhh, I think someone else once said that too. The 1100 is a funky one for sure, but oh so sweet. I have an old late 70's classic trap model that I use for clays every once in a while. Auto's normally don't do it for me, I like O/U's, but that 1100 will be in my family forever, such a sweet gun.
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Good news is that CZUSA normally over quotes on their turn around. So you will probably have it sooner, don't hold me to it, but they quoted me the same and I had my gun back in under 2 weeks.That's for the advice, suesstech.
Update:
I called CZ USA. They sent me a fedex label to ship it to them for repair under warranty. Said 4-6 weeks. I'll update the thread when I get it back.
Talk about great customer service!
I sent them my CZ Redhead target, and it came back with an extra set of extended chokes... I don't know if that was a mistake or not, but it sure made me a believer, and a happy customer.
You were right- the gun was back to my door in under 2 weeks!
I have yet to test it myself, but they did the following:
Opened the gas port
Deepened the extractor groove
Reamed the chamber
And went down a 20+ point checklist, and then test fired with multiple types of 2 3/4 & 3"
Happy Customer
Awesome, I have to say CZUSA's customer service is soo good that it makes me want to buy more of their stuff.
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This^
However, who this really hurst is the american consumers who are awaiting shipment of their purchased guns. Don't quote me on this, but I hear back-order lists (pre-paid at that) are long and full of mostly US consumers. I have a feeling that Kalashnikov Concern won't be issuing refunds.
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This is also why I suggest not practicing with live loads... get some dummies, unless you can crank a round off at you house without a visit from the boys in blue
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Great job! I'm curious about retention when at a full sprint under the clock however.
I saw a guy running some homemade caddies at one of our all shotgun matches a while back (they looked really good) but the following match he had bought some real caddies. I'm not trying to be a downer, in fact I love the DIY spirit and such. I just don't know that saving a few bucks on certain things is worth it in the long run. I hear guy complain about gear cost all the time, but at least in my experience that has been a drop in the bucket compared to ammo, gas, hotels, and everything else. Even if I only go to local matches, I still spend a lot on everything else. The 4ish hundred dollars I've spent on caddies over the years is nothing comparatively. And then there is the confidence that I'm not going to yard sale everything the moment I burst from the start box. That being said, I love the DIY thing when starting off in 3 gun. I remember my first match, I showed up with my tactical timmy 14.5" AR, mossberg 590A1, and sig 226, pulling shells from my pockets... but I had a blast and knew I was hooked...
I'd love to hear a after action report!
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Use a Tek-lock... they are cheap and can attach to almost any belt as well as giving you angle options
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Just as a disclaimer... I knew we were throwing way more birds than usual... and it was intentional. There will be lots of thrown birds again next year and there will be moving slug targets. They will be repeating elements of what has already become the flavor of our shotgun challenge.
Glad to hear this... I love thrown birds, maybe its cause I started out as a Trap shooter at a very young age. Most likely its cause most of the field tends to miss them and rack up penalties
I really Hope to make it to Pikes Peak next year... already got the time off work!
Testing buffer weights with Low Mass bcg...
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Well if you are running a rifle length buffer tube, then no... thats the short answer.
It comes down to length, a carbine buffer in a rifle tube will have too much travel, this can damage your BCG. You can put a stop in there to allow the use of a carbine buffer, but the easiest is to just take weights out or buy different buffers.