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If I could only have one gun.....it would be my M&P .45

124 JHP. PD. , 5.0gr WSF. , COL 1.125. avg. 1073fps ". " ". 4.7. WSF. 1.150. 1040

Walther use to make the M&P 22, but now it is made entirely by S&W and has several improvements added. Super reliable by several new articles on the new model.

I am a PA with 35 yrs Ortho experience. David has it right. Drop weight, No impact loading; cycling for some, eliptical, walking on level surface (track). Avoid hills, steps, squatting and knee extension exercise, especially if you have patellar arthritis. NSAIDS if you don't have history of ulcers, aspirin sensitivity, and not on blood thinners. Periodic cortisone, every 3 months as needed is standard. If your knee is worn out you are not going to hurt anything, if otherwise medically safe. Glucosamine helps with some people, but it works better during your younger athletic years before you have so much catching up to do IMO. The hyaluronic acids (synvisc, etc.) do offer some benefit to some people. In my experience it works better in the younger patients (40s-50s). Unloader braces can help some, especially if the arthritis is primarily on one side of the knee. In special circumstances, a uni-compartmental replacement works well in those cases. Much less surgery and rehab and this can buy you a few years before converting to a full replacement. Make sure your surgeon has vast experience in this. Unfortunately arthritis is a permanent situation. Treatment is to manage your symptoms, not cure it. Overall, if your knee is your focus of the day total joint replacement is a great option and should last 20+ years. By that time something better will be available. IMO there are a lot of Ortho docs that do only joint replacement, and if it is my knee I would travel to see one of them...especially important if you are a younger patient.

Kent, I really don't care about your spelling errors. What I do care about is your misinformation. People leave bars everyday saying that the alcohol doesn't affect them...and it is the same thing with many prescription drugs, tramadol/ultram being one of them. You live far enough way that you are not a threat to me, just others that share the road with you. I don't care what other MDs tell you, ask an attorney what will happen if they do your blood test. Or for that matter, having Ultram in your possession without a valid prescription can cause you a lot of trouble.

Tramadol is a prescription drug that is highly sought after by drug abusers. Like all drugs, there are legitimate users, and abusers. It is a scheduled drug in some states. For accurate infor look it up on the DEA site. Anyone shooting and/or driving while taking this medication is doing so 'under the influence' whether prescribed or not. IMO, if an accident happens, you can and should be held accountable. Friends don't let friends shoot when taking such meds. And by the way, I am a health care provider who prescribes these medications routinely as needed.

OK..looks like the chrono wasn't correct. Same original load out of a XD: 1113, 1084, 1078, 1095 Then tried the M&P Pro again, 1124, 1122, 1121, 1100, 1076, 1101, 1117, 1136, 1109, 1113. So the 5.0 WSF is running what is expected! But I tried 4.7gr @ 1061, 1042, 1083, 1067, 1061, 1039, 1038, 1078, 1058, 1060. So this seems like for general target and IDPA this will work. Appreciate the help and any additional comments.

OK, with the previous replys I got to thinking about OAL...I have been warned about thinking in the past Anyway putting a Montana Gold 124 HP in a fired case and then inserting into my barrel of the M&P, I got a max OAL of 1.153. Another site suggested backing off this 0.015, rounding off for the convenience of data......so I wind up with 1.135 as the suggested OAL. While I am sure chambering will cause set-back in longer loads, the bullet would be 'jammed' into the lands. So at max, my OAL can't be longer than 1.150......Right? And shorter to be safe.

approx. 10'....but I have measured other loads with much greater spreads. Not saying it is not possible that it could be in error though. I've dropped down to 4.7gr of WSF and will shoot the trial batch later this week. Thanks again for the replies.

Thanks for all the great input. I'm new to centerfire reloading so have a lot to learn. I would guess that set back would give a varying velocity, so doubt that's the problem. OAL can be adjusted but feeds good in 3 different guns so I don't want to change more than one varible so I will cut back to 4.8 and give it another go. Thanks again for the help.

124 gr. Montana Gold HP - 5.0gr. WSF - COL 1.130 - Fed Match SPP Gun S&W M&P Pro 5" bbl. (powder measurement verified with bal.beam and digital scale) My Winchester book notes 4.7 to 5.3 velocity 1015 - 1115, 6 shot string Avg.1240, spread 5.83, SD 2.0 1237, 1241, 1239, 1238, 1239,1243 No abnormal cartridge signs. Do I hold what I have or should I lighten up a little bit? Recoil does not seem heavy and accuracy is better than factory RN. Appreciate any advice. Thanks