Have had a Thumlers for about 30 years I bought used. It worked super well but a little inconvenient to load and unload. I let it sit for a long time and the barrel no longer is pliable enough to open the door. It is a total loss 'cause a replacement barrel is way more than I am willing to spend since I can get a vibrating cleaner much cheaper. Probably go with the FA E-Z kit. Looks to be a good one and a great price.