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so where does a person buy mags for the older gen-1 lmk. also i have been to the sell/buy board no luck or obscene pricig carried 1 of mine for years off/on. know the folks who designed the gen 1 jjw
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the best smith i know is dave laubert og defensive creations, alliance ohio. web site explains it best. 1 of the 200 pistal smith in the guild. dont kow the wait but he is just unreal with 1911's and other pistols. saw his work on revolvers in a natinsal magazine. cant say enought about him. call him and just ask. he is patient, nice, and not off the $$$$ charts for what u get.. never seen an unhappy customer.. nothng in it for me except great work on all the work he does for us. jjw
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i call B.S.on that the original series now called xd-1 was designed by Ken Hackathorn and Larry Vickers for Springfield i have both of the custom original super tuned from Springfield to them,as gifts re-fitted baretta mags with custom bottem bumper cut from a tire Heinie nite sites match bbl 10 mag each custom fitted great trigger. custom green,not production green. presentation box. i have used Larry's unit for years with Mecgar mags. (Mecgar mags just plain work in anything.) i am a smith&wesson fan. have 8-9 work guns, shoot3 i always have and will always have a springfield factory gun redone by defensive creation's.alliance Ohio. I HATE glock's i shoot them so poorly. i think they hate ME. i shot them so poorly the last ft Benning 3-guni attended ,i came home and sold all 5 i had. called tdl and told him how poorly i shot them. he said "wait" . he would not tell me under a non-disclosure he signed, a new gun he knew of(imagine that")was coming. it was love at 1st site at his house in Maretta . he loaned" me a sample and 3 mags. shot the p--s out of it have never had 1 FAILURE of the 4 total i own. have a s/f across the room i am sitting in now in virgina i shoot 9mm w.w for fun. speer 124+p and w-w124+p+ for serious stuff. have never CHANGED 1 PART. sorry for the bad typing. shrpapnel/arthritis have taken their toll. jjw
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does anyone know where a mfg is that uses s&w mag well's. tried a company in shot gun news. no good i want a s&w pcc as i havve a ton of smiths and its our work gun. any one kow where i should look. do not want a removable frame. want to build a complete weapon from the ground up have every thing but the lower. need an a.r. configuration. have a kel-tec. have had 5-6 over the years. great company great service reliable as hell. can carry it but not the perfect weapon for what i do. also wierd looking not a big deal but need an ar. tia jjw
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i have tried the AAO- MFG unit and it was bad. refund can fast from amex. has any 1 built 1 from any mfg that works ??????? any advice will help. have top engineering guy as a friend if u will send me an email with number i will call on outbound watts be most appreciative jjw
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defensive creations alliance ohio (dave laubert) did a small solder piece on shield shield just big enuff. caution i can work the original flat safety but dont like my chances IF in a gun fight i also have small hands #8 womens any safety is a good safety. have full size work guns all S&W reguler size and no that safety wont fit a compact. we tried any good tool & die guy can do it.. i just am not 1 of those strange critter"s good luck jjw
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Blade-Tec is what u seek. Tim Wegner has all his gear holes punched to fit Safariland. my self and 4 of my people run Blade-Tec. (maybe more, dont see them much) takes time to set up a tactical rig. many more things than on a competition rig. we have tried most everything. alway's stick with B/T. Safariland main frame so to speak. i have shot a lot of 3 gun all over s. east. from the old Carolina Tac,starting in 96/97 with the 1st . to Ft Benning. then just built a 3-gun rig. used stuff in ware house. works fine as i member" after 30 or so 3 guns. last 20 yrs or so,till i was injured. never was a big time shooter. just liked testing gear, meeting good folk, playing with all the toys. good luck jjw
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i have never used any one 1 but Dave. he is a master gun smith. also in the pistold smith's guild. the top 200 pistol smiths in the country. he has cut 25 or 30 barrels of all kinds and size. never a bad 1. i always threaded for cans. he did that also perfectly many gun smith have said its evil work and wont attempt. give him a call. i am in akron he will know me. if u do it rest easy. he aint' cheap but neither are Rolex''s or Randall knives, BUT they always work \jjw best of luck
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ask these people if they ever ACTUALLY shot a short bbl i had 2 the only 11.5 ever factory done, from Earnie Langdon. (designed the gun for s&w) a 16" cut down by a master gun smith (Defensive Creations - Alliance Ohio) Dave Laubert probably ran 4-5000 rds thru it with a knights :can & a surefire. just put out in the corner with all of the other lonley neglected guns i have never a burp jjw
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i went the other way use 2.o full size and 4.0-c uppers work guns w want to be ablle to use standard mags. cant be fumlbiling around for wierd size mags (15 rds) i use all 2.0 full size mags with robin's aluminin 6 extra in 9mm also did a fde f/s lower 5" with a 4.0-c upper all work just fine eery weapon i own for work has the shortest bbarrel that will for me 870's (aow's) 5" example email me with a phone number if u want to ask more i dont do emal's or text jjw
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stevie:
ha ve most all the stuff u want. not a dealer.
mags w/w-o exrtensions
holster kydex- leather
just about anything u want for m&p's. been work guns for 3 years. great guns. none for sale. we are a security company in ohio
can't do email. arthritis and shrapnel
give me a call or send #. will call on my out bound watts
cheers
jjw
b.l. farley
www.odspec.com
330-388-6627 private line to me come in around noon till 10-11ish at nite
hope this helps.
b
p.s. Hookem Horns (class of 71")
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almost all my 1.0 series holsters with and w/o a light work with the2.0 series. u may have to tweak a little, screw adjustment. .a heat gun is ur friend. we are changing from 1.0 to 2.0's for work guns. only a few of 16 primary side arms have not fit. all do after said tweaking. email if u need to. not a dealer. we are are a security company doing contract work. jjw p.s. we love the new 2.0. and YES we can carry anything we want
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adco and defensive creations are 1's who touch my barrels and i have had 7-8 cut down. mostly work guns But length is mostly the mod also.wt is a factor but i use d.d. lt wt 1/7's. dont know anyone else. adco / def. creationsis all i ever used. back up is dave laubert at defensive creations if i am in a hurry. best i have ever seen. all my guns have "cans" so threading is a BIG DEAL. both are the best. we dont cut many barrels. been told its a black art/scary. takes magoic. L.O.L good luck jjw
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i use key mod but both are same technology i just would buy the number of 10"/12" or what ever it took to get there. someday u may change ur mind/set upp and be glad u bought smaller pieces cheers jjw p.s gurante u it wont effect what u are building.
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mine measure 5.75"approx empty. holding the ruler at at the top and straight across no go as i read it. if u could dump the base plate u would be gtg i counted the base plate jjw
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the reason they inter mix on the 2,0 series is a improvement on the 1.0 series. the man who designed the 1.0 series was Earnie Langdon. who also designed the baretta vertec before he he worked at s&w. he also designed the 5x45x39 ar's(not really important i guess) L.o.L.. he said when they built 1.0 series in 9 & .40 they did not take interchange ability.into account. when they designed the .45 (came last) they did. as stated. i have a full size lower and a compact upper as a bedroom gun. what smith has done "finally" is build the guns to interchange. u are like most people , want a carry gun with a long barrel and short grip. i am so twisted, i went the other way L.O.L. would u buy a 5" fde on a full size or compact black lower ? i can make that happen cheers jjw
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all my friends go your way : long upper and short lower. guess i am out of step but have always liked the opposite your info is going in my file on this concept saved me some work. we going to all 2.0-f/s and compacts for work tks jjw
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i just throw then on top of all my "go bags" and chest rigs in my work room. has a bank steel door in cinder block walls for a room we built.. i am a s.h.t.f. guy, not a match shooter. just retiring from security work since 9/11. will always have load out bags and ammo close at hand. its work gear so i expect it to "work" anytime. doom on the fool that comes to hurt my wife or my cocker spaniel. jjw bath ohio akron area.
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lets make sure we are on the same page. i am talking about all 2.0 lowers/uppers only. not any 1.0 series. all uppers will fit on any of the my 3. just tried it. . 2.0-c lowers. both with a 5" upper. stuck the guns out my back door and shot the steel in my backyard range. 34 rds 100% reliable. naturally the dog is not happy. L.O.L. cheers jjw p.s. i am trying to sell a 5" upper in fde. i will keep the f.d.e. lower and carry with a 2.0-c upper. have done with with s&w .45's and colt commander 45's with a officers upper on it.
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my 5" 2.0 will go together on any 2.0 lower. trying to sell a 2.0o fde in the classifieds bought it by mistake. wont take it back jjw
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isn't that a flat nose bullet? how does it feed? anything special to the feed ramp. works well for practice for my mp-5,1 of the work guns we carry. tia jjw
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there is another answer. i have small hands and mag release are the devils mischief. i assume every one knows they can be flipped to the other side,very easily. i have done this to all my guns whether work or 3-gun. 7/8 full size and 4/ 2.0-c. dumped all my compacts. pinched too many fingers slamming the mag home cheers jjw jjw
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i have been shooting 3-gun since about 94/95. mostly outlaw in n. carolina but a lot elsewhere. 3 rock castle's till my legs need new knee's. soooooooooooooooo 2 loads only u don't need anything else 3-dr-1oz of 6's for long steel. use a tight choke .3dr--1/1/8oz 9's for clay 2 custom chokes add to the fun 1. a choke custom ground to shoot TALL/NARROW patterns like rock castle steel at 50 yds and hostage scenerio 2. a spreader choke for all clay's u might get 2 for 1 i.c, lm, lt. f PATTERN THE CHOKES hope this helps jjw p.s. i learned all this shooting 20,000 birds a year at sporting clay's. those guys had this stuff figured to a gnat's ass.