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  1. superdude rowdyb Have you continued to use 244 for the season? report back any results, thoughts, opinions? I'm interested in getting some and figured I'd get some more feedback from you all first. I'm looking to use for 9 minor through a Shadow 2. Thanks
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    9mm Minor

    The data below goes to show why it's important to work up a load. This data is out of a Shadow 2, which has had no modifications and using a stock barrel. Created: 01/07/18 03:06 PM Description: 3.5 Titegroup 124g BBI Notes 1: 9mm. Shadow 2. 3.5 Titegroup. 1.10 OAL. 124g BBI Distance to Chrono (FT): 15.00 Bullet Weight (gr): 125.00 Temp: 53 °F BP: 30.12 in Hg # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 1066 315.46 133.25 9 1040 300.26 130.00 8 1048 304.89 131.00 7 1066 315.46 133.25 6 1037 298.53 129.62 5 1041 300.83 130.12 4 1028 293.37 128.50 3 1048 304.89 131.00 2 1042 301.41 130.25 1 1053 307.81 131.62 Average: 1046.9 FPS SD: 12.2 FPS Min: 1028 FPS Max: 1066 FPS Spread: 38 FPS Created: 01/07/18 03:08 PM Description: 3.5 WST 135g BBI Notes 1: 9mm Shadow 2 1.10 OAL Distance to Chrono (FT): 15.00 Bullet Weight (gr): 135.00 Temp: 53 °F BP: 30.12 in Hg # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 926 257.08 125.01 9 956 274.01 129.06 8 961 276.88 129.74 7 993 295.63 134.05 6 973 283.84 131.35 5 992 295.03 133.92 4 956 274.01 129.06 3 949 270.01 128.12 2 939 264.35 126.76 1 969 281.51 130.82 Average: 961.4 FPS SD: 21.3 FPS Min: 926 FPS Max: 993 FPS Spread: 67 FPS Created: 01/07/18 03:10 PM Description: 3.6 WST 135g BBI Notes 1: 9mm. Shadow 2. 3.6 WST. 1.10. 135g BBI Distance to Chrono (FT): 15.00 Bullet Weight (gr): 135.00 Temp: 54 °F BP: 30.12 in Hg # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 977 286.18 131.90 9 976 285.59 131.76 8 986 291.48 133.11 7 946 268.31 127.71 6 976 285.59 131.76 5 985 290.89 132.98 4 985 290.89 132.98 3 945 267.74 127.57 2 954 272.86 128.79 1 959 275.73 129.46 Average: 968.9 FPS SD: 16.3 FPS Min: 945 FPS Max: 986 FPS Spread: 41 FPS Created: 01/07/18 03:12 PM Description: 3.7 WST 135g BBI Notes 1: 9mm. Shadow 2. 3.7 WST. 1.10. 135g BBI Distance to Chrono (FT): 15.00 Bullet Weight (gr): 135.00 Temp: 54 °F BP: 30.12 in Hg # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 949 270.01 128.12 9 1015 308.87 137.02 8 1033 319.93 139.46 7 1029 317.45 138.91 6 973 283.84 131.35 5 1006 303.42 135.81 4 968 280.93 130.68 3 1000 299.81 135.00 2 979 287.35 132.16 1 973 283.84 131.35 Average: 992.5 FPS SD: 28.2 FPS Min: 949 FPS Max: 1033 FPS Spread: 84 FPS Created: 01/07/18 03:15 PM Description: 3.8 WST 135g BBI Notes 1: 9mm. Shadow 2. 3.8 WST. 1.10. 135g BBI Distance to Chrono (FT): 15.00 Bullet Weight (gr): 135.00 Temp: 54 °F BP: 30.12 in Hg # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 1000 299.81 135.00 9 999 299.21 134.87 8 987 292.07 133.24 7 1013 307.66 136.76 6 1013 307.66 136.76 5 1017 310.09 137.29 4 989 293.25 133.51 3 978 286.77 132.03 2 975 285.01 131.62 1 994 296.23 134.19 Average: 996.5 FPS SD: 14.7 FPS Min: 975 FPS Max: 1017 FPS Spread: 42 FPS Created: 01/07/18 03:18 PM Description: 3.9 WST 135g BBI Notes 1: 9mm. Shadow 2. 3.8 WST. 1.10. 135g BBI Distance to Chrono (FT): 15.00 Bullet Weight (gr): 135.00 Temp: 54 °F BP: 30.12 in Hg # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 1018 310.70 137.43 9 1025 314.99 138.38 8 1044 326.78 140.94 7 1007 304.02 135.95 6 1002 301.01 135.27 5 1021 312.54 137.84 4 964 278.61 130.14 3 985 290.89 132.98 2 980 287.94 132.30 1 1019 311.31 137.57 Average: 1006.5 FPS SD: 24.1 FPS Min: 964 FPS Max: 1044 FPS Spread: 80 FPS
  3. I apologize for my lack of clarity of what I was trying to say in my original post. What I don't do (and wouldn't want to see done to me or any other shooter, new or experienced) is say literally, "unload and show clear" until the shooter complies. What I do, an hope others do as well, is repeat once the literal range command, "unload and show clear". Then say, "show clear" and that most always gets it done. Because we always try our best to give the shooter the full benefit of the doubt, I assume 'A' in your scenarios and not 'B'. Also more often than not, another shooter will discuss this with the shooter after scoring is complete. But if not, I will privately discuss it with the shooter after scoring is complete. In that conversation, I try to communicate to the shooter a couple points: 1) shooter is not on the clock at this point; 2) it is in everyone's best interest that two people confirm that the gun is clear; 3) a significant amount of accidents that occur do so in the unload, show clear, and holstering process. I hope this sheds a little better and clearer light on my initial post.
  4. *Please explain to me why repeating a standard range command is "dickish" when there are others in this same thread that think it is appropriate to DQ a shooter under not following the reasonable directions of a much official. Sounds like you should save your dickish comment for someone else.*
  5. I would repeat the RO command, "if you are finished, unload and show clear" until the shooter followed the command. Once that command was followed I would commence with the remainder of the range commands. As an RO/CRO, I believe it is my duty to maintain a safe range. A major part (not the only) imho it's the RO and shooter properly executing and following the prescribed range commands. And they are just that, commands, not suggestions, not if you feel like its, not 'i did crappy on this stage and want to go's; they are commands prescribed by our rulebook as a measure to keep EVERYONE safe(r).
  6. David, It appears that your slide is not cut correctly. In the picture below, the area in the RED circle doesn't appear to be cut the same as the area in the BLUE circle. The extra material that appears to be there in the RED circle coincides with the location of the "denting" or "marking" on your plug.
  7. On 9mm, when I load longer than 1.160 and have my mags setup with a arrendondo, TT or Hardy spacer I am having issues with the bullet nose dragging on the front inside of the mag tube and preventing positive feeding in the magazine. Is anyone else having these issues? The first step, I obviously shortened my load to 1.15-1.155, at this point I have started showing pressure signs. Not sure were to go from here. Any thoughts?
  8. Did you only apply this at the base and at the feed ramps? Or did you somehow apply it down the entire spine of the tube?
  9. JJ, Thanks for the words of caution. My plan is to take some suggestions from this and other threads, back off them a bit and work up to "my gun's load" with a chrono. I just figure that guys with experience in these matters are a lot better starting point than extrapolating a load from published load data. As stated in the original thread, "I accept all load data at my own risk". Jack, Thanks for the numbers, I'd like to get my hands on some more WAC, and I hear CFE-Pistol is awesome. I have mostly HS-6 for right now. Thanks to both you guys!
  10. What are your guys OAL on the ~8.0 grn HS-6 on a 124 JHP?
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