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    Jim McBurnett

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  1. At Area 8 this past year we covered that under RM guidance.. if it is in a cart and being retrieved from a cart or buggy for a competitor to start the course of fire in an area where the car or buggy can't be within 6 feet of the berm or backstop we used the line at the end of the 10.5.19 The berm/backstop is not required while removing/returning a properly flagged PCC from/to a vehicle providing all other safety rules are followed. Vehicle - interpreted as a car, golf cart, or buggy. The previous sentence also says All other gun handling with the PCC, e.g., sight pictures, turning dots on/off, etc., must be accomplished in a safety area or under the direct supervision of a Range Officer. notice the OR..
  2. While the RO may need some training, I would recommend this course of action: 1. Know the rules yourself 2. Have the rule book or electronic version handy 3. Show the applicable rule to the RO and educate him/her. In this case the rules for USPSA competitions (NOT SCSA or multigun ) are on page 29 of the rules book and this COULD be problematic.. as it is written I am unsure if he uncased BEFORE make ready or if he walked up and unzipped before the RO was there. If it was before the RO was there, technically it is a DQ if he was not within 2 yards of the backstop or sideberm and following all the other elements of Did the RO give make ready BEFORE he unzipped it? NOTE the definition of CASED as covered in To be considered cased, the PCC must be in a case or sleeve which covers from the muzzle past the trigger guard and prevents access to or manipulation of the trigger. In this example- I believe he actually UNCASED it per as it was all the way down. UNCASING is where the DQ is called in this situation. So if he didn't wait for the make ready and just walked up to the start area and laid it down and unzipped and was not withing 2 yards of the backstop/sideberm.-- rule applies with a DQ of 10.5.19 This situation says it was pointing downrange at the backstop, but did not give a distance. that is important. THE RULE in question: Carbines must be cased/uncased or removed/replaced on a cart with the muzzle pointed in a safe direction directly into and within 2 yards of a side berm or backstop. PCCs can also be cased/uncased or removed/replaced on a cart under the direct supervision of a range officer with muzzle pointing at the backstop. Failure to point the muzzle at a side berm or back stop during casing/uncasing or removing/replacing on a cart will result in a DQ per 10.5.19. See below As another commented, ask him to show the rule.. This is a rather technical DQ situation.. was he truly in a DQ situation? I am not sure.... what I AM SURE OF-- if he does that at a level 2 or higher- his chances of getting a warning and NOT a DQ is slim... That lesson needs to be learned.... 10.5.19 Failing to point the muzzle of a PCC at a side berm or back stop during casing/uncasing or removing/replacing on a conveyance or sweeping any person with the muzzle of a PCC, whether loaded or not, even if a chamber flag is inserted. Side berms/backstops may be used for casing and uncasing or removing from/placing on conveyances only. All other gun handling with the PCC, e.g., sight pictures, turning dots on/off, etc., must be accomplished in a safety area or under the direct supervision of a Range Officer. The berm/backstop is not required while removing/returning a properly flagged PCC from/to a vehicle providing all other safety rules are followed.
  3. I would recommend sending this to DNROI@uspsa.org Troy will provide answers and have corrections made to the course as needed.
  4. I’m not real keen on the android.. to me at that price I’d just buy an iPad with extra batteries and Shades.. Additionally—There are beta updates to the iOS versions with bug fixes faster than android. The IOS developer is far more open to change and not combative/argumentative when you ask for something. I’ve been at a level 2 and level 3 match and found a bug and had a release sent to my stats folks that night on IPAD.. years later I see the feature we asked for still isn’t on the android with nothing but excuses and deflections. In the end, I always have a tablet of both kinds at a match. But I’m not sold on android for anything at this point...
  5. This is counter intuitive. Food vendors require a minimum.. Say $1800 minimum ... and ask for say $8 per person. If you have 50 staff for 3 days that’s $1200. To even get a food vendor for staff it is often - the match will have to guarantee that $1800 and if the vendor doesn’t make it via sales and our staff paid meals, the match will have to cover the difference. These numbers vary by range, area, time of year and nearby festival activity... and actually I think $8 is kinda low.... Some matches include this in the match fee so there isn’t wasted $$. Ok so we had X competitors and only 75 ate the meal... but it was a bonus on the staff... I know most that have shot in Area 8 have seen southern Bobbi Q... it’s good food... and every match I’ve seen him at the match paid for all competitors to eat as part of the match fee...
  6. I feel the need to comment on the topic of no lunch.... Many times the staff is out of the hotel before breakfast is opened and they need a lunch break for several reasons. This is where they can catchup if there is a morning problem without impacting afternoon scheduling. Mostly this is for half day format matches. But in the split formats where you may shoot 2 half day segments instead of a full day this is still needed. Lunch is also where staff can reset, repair, replace broken stuff without impacting shooters and making them wait and/or backing up the match. Or paint those extra targets that we didn’t think would be needed.. this list is endless... consider this an operational pause for those military minded folks... I can see the responses will be “I don’t need a lunch break”. But the unspoken part is also “if I don’t need it no one needs it” In this sport I have seen a number of people on insulin and special diets, how would you handle someone “taking a shot” in the tent on the side of a bay? Cause it will happen if there is no lunch break.. Additionally I’m worried about working the staff too hard, which is the worry we all should have... no staff=no match.. or the good staff goes away... and then you have more problems. I’ve worked matches where you got 10 min to eat a lunch and no break and the next squad was all over you wanting to shoot as you rush to replace targets. I haven’t worked for one of those MDs anymore. For shooters the no lunch part is one day.. for staff that could be 2 or 3 days... I get it , people want to be off the range and to The hotel or home.. but when we do this at the expense of volunteer staff, it is like cutting your nose off to spite your face... This is a tough one, you want to make shooters happy, but you can’t wear out your staff and expect to have a match the next year... In the end, this is an MDs call with how he/she does the schedule and the ROs call whether they will come back and volunteer again.. or decide to drop out at the last minute. as most matches are saying they are having a hard time to get staff, I would be hesitant to add “we won’t do a lunch break for this match, eat as you break between squads and stages and we hope it is ok so you can get off the range 30 min early” Sorry— my soapbox is now yielded.
  7. This reminds me of a match a few years back where all the top winners got gun choices off a prize table.. And this was known before the match... as they walked past the “table” there was someone there with a pile of cash buying every single gun they “won”. Those top winners didn’t want or need those guns... they wanted some cash... The top shooters have little need for any of the good prizes on an order of finish prize table. They can either get it from their sponsor, buy it or they already have it. So I agree with the giving the Prizes out randomly.. that is the best chance of putting the item in the hands of “user” which is what marketing is for.. Honest question—. If you are trying to grow your market share in a business which if the following would you do? 1. Give merchandise to someone who will blog about it, or advertise its usefulness. 2. Give it to someone who will Take it and sell it and not further your marketing goals? 3. Not provide to matches. 4. Give it out and hope the match helps you. Other options to add to this?
  8. Yep... and since then they have changed their ways. I think... I have not helped that match in some time.... I remember telling them that wouldn’t go too well long term— but I digress.. I believe we are at a cross roads for staff.. soon match fees will go up to make sure staff is not paying to work.
  9. I’d have to say that maybe 20%of match participant’s are super competitive and care about where they place more than a casual oh ok I got 1st (fill in the blank). 80% just want to have fun... so In my opinion this view is not the norm..
  10. From a staff perspective, this can suck the fun out of something.. When X Competitor thinks that D to C or a C to an A hit will make or break them in the match they often make life miserable for everyone else.. Order of finish cash prizes typically make the matches far more challenging to officiate.. The only matches I’ve seen prize table walks at are matches that are multi day where the entire competitor base is around the last day.. IE Nats.. most other do cash payback.. I have a problem with cash payback.. If you are doing that and a staff member comes out of pocket to work the match, then the staff is actually PAYING the payback... So that shooter getting $150 or $1000 is money that wouldn’t be used to get staff expenses covered... yes there have been matches that do cash payback while staff gets a free match fee, a T-shirt, and free lunches and then have to cover their own hotel.. I remember working one where the roach hotel was $85 a night.... for 3 days...
  11. That is my point... having travelled the country shooting matches in multiple areas and states— Many of the younger athletic types lack the budget to travel for this.. and the majority of the shooters Are of the opinion fun, but not so crazy... And I think if it lasted long enough it MAY be ok... consider the hard as hell 3 gun match... it is well attended now.. but 3 gunners have money... short term— 3-4 years... may be a struggle.
  12. So here is a different thought on this subject... I have heard of some this have a belief that level 2 and higher needs to be extremely tough... think hard mudder ... If someone says that a level 2 or level 3 match needs to be so demanding and tough that you have to be an A or above just to shoot it well, would you consider it? Or do you think it will be attended enough to even break even financially? Or do you this is just overboard? Or is it a good idea ?
  13. The height of 1.5 inches is recommended but the first part of the rule is what is key here... Shooting Boxes and Fault Lines should be constructed of wooden boards or other suitable material, must be fixed firmly in place, and provide both physical and visual references to competitors. Must be fixed.... and provide .... The reason for the height is to have a reference of where the fault line is.. in this image there is no clear reference to where that fail line ends... If I was on an ARB committee I’d remove the procedurals... as an RM— tell the MD to fix it...
  14. Is that MD an RO? Maybe bring this to the attention of the SC or AD to provide guidance... or a local RM OR RMI..
  15. It gets even more than just the stage staff. Often you have people coming from a long way off and they are there days before a even the stage staff get there.. At A8 this year, I arrived on Tuesday night to go thru stages for final approval. And that was 2 days before the rest of the staff. We spent over a day working on fixing smallish stage issues. So a 3 day match May mean you have some staff there for 5-6 days... I left Sunday night which meant I had 5 days on site and a 6th for travel.. There were at least 10-12 others on site BEFORE I got there... For most level 2 matches, the team is local. But not always... for level 3 you will have a significant number arriving up to 4 days before the match to put it on the ground.... That creates a lot of hotel expense...
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