So, here is the story 2016 or 17 I placed pretty well in my division at Gator. I was ask to help out with the prize tables and while watching the table I noticed on each of the tables a brown cardboard box with nothing on it. I recognized the crappy looking box because my daughter is Pro shotgun shooter and her sponsor provides her with Pilla Sebrings, they come in the crappy cardboard box. I was 7th or so overall and watched everyone grab certs for guns and then it was my turn. The crappy box was right next to a gun cert and I grabbed it. People looked at me crazy until I opened the box! By the way in the 2016 or 17 time frame Pilla was mainstream glasses for the shotgun crowd and Max M was the only Pro pistol shooter wearing them at the time.