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ATF Rul. 2013-3 ATF has received numerous inquiries from manufacturers and importers of firearms, and makers of NFA firearms (makers), asking if they can adopt the existing markings that were placed on a firearm by the original manufacturer. They ask specifically if they may use the existing serial number, caliber/gauge, and model already placed on a firearm instead of marking this information on the firearm when they further manufacture or import the firearm. Some firearm manufacturers and importers acquire receivers and assemble them into completed firearms for the purpose of sale or distribution. Others, including makers, acquire complete firearms and further manufacture them (e.g., re-barreling or machining the frame or receiver to accept new parts). In either case, the firearm is already marked with a serial number, original manufacturer’s name, model (if designated), caliber or gauge (if known), and place of origin. Many manufacturers, importers, and makers assert that marking firearms with their own serial numbers, calibers/gauges, and models, in addition ATF Rul. 2013-3 ATF has received numerous inquiries from manufacturers and importers of firearms, and makers of NFA firearms (makers), asking if they can adopt the existing markings that were placed on a firearm by the original manufacturer. They ask specifically if they may use the existing serial number, caliber/gauge, and model already placed on a firearm instead of marking this information on the firearm when they further manufacture or import the firearm. Some firearm manufacturers and importers acquire receivers and assemble them into completed firearms for the purpose of sale or distribution. Others, including makers, acquire complete firearms and further manufacture them (e.g., re-barreling or machining the frame or receiver to accept new parts). In either case, the firearm is already marked with a serial number, original manufacturer’s name, model (if designated), caliber or gauge (if known), and place of origin. Many manufacturers, importers, and makers assert that marking firearms with their own serial numbers, calibers/gauges, and models, in additionFurther, the serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and not duplicate any serial number placed by the licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, or maker on any other firearm. Under 18 U.S.C. 922(k) and 26 U.S.C. 5861(g), it is unlawful for any person to possess or receive any firearm which has had the serial number removed, obliterated, or altered.

I am using a 2x7 Burris with e1 reticle. I have offset irons. I thought it might help having more magnification on 400 yard shots and the E1 reticle has some uncomplicated hash marks. In truth i am having trouble seeing 400 yard targets. Of course I am a middle of the pack local shooter, so I suck anyway.

I found a nice one on Ebay, carbon fiber kydex that matches my holster. The CCW 4 round shot shell holders work as well.

I am enjoying the MOE rifle stock currently. Bare it weighs 14oz (same as A2) compared to the Ace at 10oz. If that helps.

For lack of anything to add: http://3gunnation.com/news/details/artmid/509/articleid/613561/dry-fire-lessons-from-a-jedi-master

Using one of the earlier pics, I think this cut on the left side would help quads...

My build using the Voodoo 16.5 has not been reliable using the lightweight BCG but is very reliable with a standard weight one. I do not think that is the barrels fault. It rips thru Am Eagle factory stuff and likes my home rolled stuff too. It did double feed some of my home rolled stuff (loaded longer) at the last match I shot but I switched to factory and all was well again.

It is.

I have the Voodoo UL 16.5 with rifle gas. I screwed one together that came in at 5#6oz with irons. This was 100 yards thrown across the range bag (scoped so as not to make you think I can shoot).

In playing with mine, it seems that if you were loading right hand quads (strong hand in my case) you would improve the loading port with an asymmetrical cut. Meaning the left side of the loading port more sculpted than the right (due to the serial number). When doing strong handed quads with mine I do have to rotate my thumb a bit to get the best result, that cut would eliminate the thumb rotation. Now I have not started filing mine down yet as it is hard to bubba up a $1K shotgun. Here is the idea of aggression stolen from elsewhere. I do not think it would limit weak hand loading with the differing cuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPatfgoNBRo

That may be true, so why don't we have a mandatory firearms handling course that requires 80% minimum and compliance is mandatory, completion card up to date, on ones person ( or tattooed on your forehead). No course, no participation. I understand the points made but the gene pool can be shallow. I am having a debate, btw, not an argument. Have either of the dissenters forwarded their argument to USPSA?

No not really. If you would like to support gun safety and handling programs in the public school, then I am with you. If you will not submit to increasing the safety of a shooting event, real or perceived, then we are at opposite ends of that argument. I can not quote the number of accidents chamber flags have prevented, can you quote how many accidents they have caused? As far as "lulling the careless into even more careless behavior", perhaps it actually helps the careless learn the steps to render their weapon safe. The magazine ban was foisted on us by Democratic politicians drunk with power and does not equate the sport making safety rules. Some of them have a hangover after that.

I think some of these same shooters were at the match I mentioned in the original post. That match is moving to Chamber Flags also.

No argument from me on preventing stupidity but not everyone is committed to the same concept of gun safety/handling. Not equating GM's who have been DQ'd for AD's, to stupidity, but I have seen that happen and they are very experienced in proper gun handling. I think the Flags can help.

Forgive me, I just took the RO class this weekend so finding rules is in the forefront. I think the flags make everyone else feel a little safer, not the shooter.

"USPSA doesn't require chamber flags, but my range manager does." Actually they do...I included the whole thing to help... 2.2.3 Except when within the boundaries of a safety area, or when under the supervision and direct command of a Range Officer, competitors must carry their long guns: 2.2.3.1 Detachable magazines removed. 2.2.3.2 Competitors must use a chamber safety flag, or clear chamber device, that is easily visible externally to the gun when transporting from vehicles or stage to stage. Anyone found in violation of this rule will be immediately escorted by a Range Officer to a suitable range or safety area where appropriate corrective action shall be made. 2.2.3.3 Unbagged long guns must be carried, shouldered or slung from the shoulder with the firearm reasonably vertical. Match Directors may require this to be "vertically upwards" or "vertically downwards" providing this is made clear to all competitors in a reasonable manner. 2.2.3.4 Long guns may be transported or stored without a slip or case, whether or not reasonably vertical, in a mobile rack or carrier as long as a chamber safety flag is used. 2.2.3.5 Transporting non preloaded long guns from the staging area to the start position and back from where the shooter unloads and shows clear, the gun must be carried muzzle vertically upwards with the bolt locked open or closed on a chamber safety flag. 2.2.3.6 Transporting a preloaded shotgun from the preload table to the start position the firearm must be carried directly to the start position with the muzzle vertically upwards. Another: 10.9 Long gun Staging Area 10.9.1 Each stage must provide a place for competitors to place their long guns. It may take the form of a rack or table or both. Tables must be oriented near a berm so that no one can walk in front of it. All firearms in the staging area must have their actions locked open or have chamber flags on a closed bolt or be cased.

Is that instruction specific to the 870? This "flag" is what I have for my AR, no melting or guessing... I can't see the devil in it.

The autos will load with an unlocked bolt.

Our club recently shot our first 3 gun match. We started small and had a "usual" crew. One of the other organizers and myself had shot a somewhat local match together, one that also was in its early stages of development. One of the things that bothered us on that shoot was: there were a lot of unknown shooters (their numbers had jumped from the teens to the 40's quickly) and some questionable gun handling, nothing blatantly unsafe but people handling a lot of unbagged guns. Too many to keep track of. We run a USPSA club, so used the USPSA multi gun rules for ours. We ordered in some Chamber Flags and required them for all guns (pistols excluded). One of the things we discovered, in trying to be time efficient, was you can not preload an 870 (no other examples) unless the chamber is closed. Should we skip preloading altogether? Skip 870's and pumps? Thoughts for next time are welcome... Thanks in advance.

I have "Free Shot Timer" by Innovative Applications and have only used it for par times. I will have to try it with actual gunfire.

With my .40 once I used Wilsons, all problems disappeared.

One of the Grip Stipplers forms an internal one (production legal) which looks nice. Can't remember who though.

I think losing control of your firearm is the point. I just looked up the USPSA rule: 5.3.4 A competitor who, for any reason during a course of fire, safely and intentionally places the firearm on the ground or other stable object will not be disqualified provided the competitor maintains constant physical contact with the firearm, until it is placed firmly and in a safe direction, securely on the ground or another stable object, and remains within 1 yard of the firearm at all times. As far as steel calibration: "all steel must fall" should cover that, unless of course some mechanical factor keeps it from falling. I agree with USPSA safety rules regarding eye or ear pro. No exceptions. Reshoots don't cost anything. There is RO discretion regarding "gaming", rules or no rules.

Mine works well.