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if you were coaching a team with different shooters what length/weight gun would you run. Top two or three sizes Currently, the fashion in length is for longer barrels 30'' in semiauto and 32'' in O/U. It is the stock that sees most of the fitting.. I've shot with a couple women, in the running for the Olympic Team. that shot heavy long guns. The stocks were fitted, however. I love err like 391s but... I usually don't recommend a gun I have not used but the new Remington Synthetic Competition 1100 certainly appears to have some merit. http://www.remington.com/en/products/firearms/shotguns/model-1100/model-1100-competition-synthetic.aspx

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I am satisfied with my 682 Gold E Sporting 32". (Still on Beretta's web site on July 1.) By the way all the letters in the description are important an Optima barreled 682 moves differently from the older 682s. If you haven't done so already get yourself out with your 391 and shoot every gun you can get your hands on. I did this with squad mates at local matches. After the match was over many shooters generously let me shoot their gun with my factory loads. And yes, I think you already have a great sporting gun that won't hold you back at the highest levels. Get it fitted, shoot it much take lessons... you probably already know that.

You want to start reloading.

Disgusting now you have a gun that never misses. Enjoy holding up your end of the bargain.

No foot stomping disagreement but I think cleaning a 391 is fairly straight forward. (Go to ShotgunWorld.com then to the Beretta forum find Seamus's book on the 391, and learn the 391.) I think it is worth noting there are several springs that merit replacement every 5000 to 10000 rounds. Beretta agrees with me some shooters go hurumph when they read this. If I were going to buy a semi it would be a 391 but have shot one much and I can get it to a perfect fit easily. A 400 is probably a excellent choice I just don't have enough experience since all I know came out of magazine articles. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=101242

"Beware, though, there are two versions of the 391, field and target. The target model is heavier so if you're shooting clays, be sure to get a target model." In addition, if you are shooting a clay game exclusively then get a 391 named after the discipline. Trap for trap, sporting for sporting ... a lot of hair splitting could apply but I believe this is good general advice. If I was going to shoot a little of everything then I'd get a sporting model. Caveat sporting is the game I enjoy most.

What do you do about the stock bolt in many Berettas. Not necessarily a simple operation regardless of brand..

Shoot what is important.

One Day at a Time - from AA 12 Step Present moment wonderful moment - Thich Nhat Hanh

I have no desire to replace my 682 Gold E Sporting, 32" with a custom adj comb. I use it for serious sporting, 5 stand and casual, fun trap. As always try before you buy a couple rounds at least. Excellent gun....

I don't. Leave them cocked they will spring into action just fine.

Wonderful. You are out and shooting.

Awareness Whether the student practices swordsmanship, archery, caligraphy, or tea ceremony, any conscious understanding of the practice that remains in the mind will only cause conflict during a performance. -Munenori Relayed by Brian's Maku mozo! postings

I have been thinking about the discussions/contributions on the Zen forum. Began wondering what your Practice is. Meditation, reflection, and awareness are three forms of Practice that I engage in. By definition Practice carries the concept of regular and frequent. I do sitting meditation most days. I am of the sit down and shut-up school, with opportunities for Tonglin and attention to my breath. I enjoy sitting with groups too. Reflection is another regular form. The words reflective practitioner have resonance here. When shooting opening my awareness to what I do. Substitution of more effective actions for less. Awareness of mundane actions is the third form. Paying attention is key here. Wash hands with awareness of turning on the water, the feel the scent, my response, the splashing…. Some instructors Pema Chodron Jon Kabat-Zinn Thích Nhất Hạnh

Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (Author) Might be worth a look.

Some Zen... Some Nor... Sometimes your joy is the source of your smile, but sometimes your smile can be the source of your joy. Thich Nhat Hanh Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow. Aesop *To live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else. Emily Dickinson *Philip K. Dick said, "Insanity is sometimes an appropriate response to reality." *A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. Buffett *"That man is richest whose pleasures are cheapest." ------ Henry David Thoreau ... pride is judgment ... -Edwards Enlightenment is a direct experience with reality. Pema Chodron About the path.... reality We can drop the fundamental hope that there is a better "me" who one day will emerge. We can't just jump over ourselves as if we were not there. Pema Chodron : From the book "When Things Fall Apart"

In walking, just walk. In sitting, just sit. Above all, don't wobble. Yun-Men

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On the sporting choke part of the question, I shoot IC or Light Mod most of the time. There are times that looser or tighter chokes will have the advantage, but I'm not worried about theoretic perfection. I have broken targets into lots of pieces at 60 yards with an IC. The trick is to get the clay in the center of your pattern. That said. Most of the time a light mod is my choice. However, you need to buy chokes from skeet to full and find out for yourself. My distraction factor is less, and centering factor is higher when I just study the flight of the target, step into the box and shoot. Others may do better when they feel confident they have the "best" choke(s) for the presentation.

"I forgot to mention that I never start with my shotgun shouldered, but rather wait until I acquire the clay to shoulder my shotgun. It's a carryover from bird hunting and pure stubbornness on my part." Just think you are practicing for International Skeet (Olympic) where low gun is required by the rules.

8/18 Shot my first 25/25 on an easy 5 stand in 2+ years. Healing and strategizing seem to be on course.

Depends where you ask for an answer. If you asked on Shotgunworld (sporting clays shooters) you'd get more than half saying get a 391 answer. No I not advocating just saying it depends who you ask, the phase of the moon, and factors unknown.