Overwatcher

Agreed Benny. I shoot the same way with my saiga as my AR. Float/drive gun with support hand and take the pull/weight with strong hand. Jerry explains this in his practical rifle DVD,yes he's explaining the technique for the rifle,but I apply almost the same technique to my shotgun as my rifle. I of course open and make my stance a little more aggressive to withstand the recoil on the shotgun,but as far as grip goes I keep it the same. Different techiques out there,but I figure if its working for Jerry I'll always consider it!

Haha! I went to a match last year that did some pretty cool props..It was the Normandy beach invasion. You started out in a mock landing craft,shooting out of the side windows and poppers with flippers in front with your shotgun.. Then you had to pull your knife and cut the landing craft door down(two 1/4 prices of rope on each side) From there you grab your rifle,and shoot at the "machine gun nest" targets... From there you had 3 wires you had to crawl under (caution tape)..also a penalty if you broke one..while advancing forward you had targets on both sides.. Ended with your pistol and by that time the 101st had showed up... One of the more funner stages I have seen! It can be done! Before we know it we will be washed up 3 gunners to old and achy to run..making coyboy action props all day and love the fact we can just stand there and pull the trigger on our 30-30.

Awesome quote..Practice is your no doubt best friend in the world,because that is where you can push your limit and know your edge... Nothing should be changing speed wise at a match,in fact I will take what I am doing in practice at my limit,and back off 10% for a match. Consistency/Being smooth/no equipment malfuntions is what will keep you at the top of the pack,and if it dosent,at least you can go home Confident in your performance and not thinking shoulda/woulda/coulda... Time is also an illusion to our brains,when stress is added to the mix.I tell myself hurry hurry hurry and run a drill,then run it again with Smooth,aim,shoot..and most of the time its so less of a difference in time..That the miss I had in hurry mode ends up costing me. I agree with always pushing your limit, and you should be,however the homework should be done before you show up at the match.

In all honesty before you buy anything,just go shoot what you have at a few local 3 Gun matches and ask questions/check stuff out.Most everyone I've ran into at a match is more then willing to let you check out their gear... Consider your first couple matches a "scouting" trip as well as a learning experience..I did that my first 3 matches or so,and just asked a million questions and looked at all different kinds of setups. I was in no way competitive my first few matches gear/skill wise anyway,just didn't want to get DQ'd! Another thing to consider is how competitive your planning on being.. If your going to just have a good time and do your local occasional 3G match...is a 1k plus shotgun justified? (Of course it is if you don't have a wife lol) On the right track however..If you can swing the M2 right on..I shoot with guys who have the M2 as well as a mossberg 930 SPX...the guy with the 930 can beat the guy with the M2,not because his shotgun is better,just because he is a better/faster shooter. Have fun!

Thanks alot guys, and yes when it starts to come to life I'll post a few pictures. Sniperfrog, I have lowers with both carbine and rifle buffers/tubes,sorry for the confusion,but what I was trying to say was the feel of the recoil/cycle in a rifle buffer setup just dosent feel as smooth to me then a carbine buffer/tube. I ran a carbine setup all this year for 3 gun,but everything was just run of the mil spec.. There is obviously as reason why a majority of all top 3G guys run a rifle buffer,shoot maybe I'll try the JP LMOS buffer out aswell. Any more input is appricated!

Well here is what I was thinking on a new dedicated 3-gun build. Young carrier "super light" Spikes ST-T1 carbine buffer (3 oz.) JP buffer spring JP adj. GB 18" Rifle length BBL Titan comp Of course looking for something with the lighest felt recoil/quick snappy shots.. The feel of a rifle length buffer dosent feel as smooth as a carbine buffer,hence going with the carbine... Let me know what you guys think,I personally have not used any of these parts..So any insight would be appricated. I also haven't bought anything yet,so help me approve/change my mind on the build. Thanks in advance. Aust

I agree with Doug,when the majority of shooters compete purely for fun..I can't see the joy in that.I agree there has to be a level of challenge in a stage, however there is a difference in challenging and impractical (annoying). My 02 Goat68, Saiga shooting cheaters? I'm confused.

I shot a match last year that had 4 MGM spinners. I shot some #4 Buck at them, and having it saved me. I seen guys using 3+ rounds to spin it with birdshot. So better to have it and not need it,then need it and not have it...IMO

For your first 3 gun you shot great. A few things I always try to do: Try to do the best you can to memorize the course of fire,I usually see guys loading mags b/s'n the whole time before its their turn. No big deal if time dosent matter,however I try to keep focused,and dial in the COF. Show up early,and most the time you can pick the brain of the course designer. I also see often guys not know where they are at round wise when running the COF,and end up wasting time with an extra rack of the slide. Know whereabouts your going to load/mag change etc... When ducking and bobbing in a COF always get a nice solid balanced shot,I often see guys shooting while doing a balerina move.remember no IDPA rules in this game. Get the best/most solid shot with your rifle you can. Before you go,take a few seconds and try a few different positions on tables etc.. Take your time on the line,I see people rush and even forget mags! If you know people at your local range who are quick and better,shoot in their group! Don't be afraid to ask questions,and have fun! Nice shootin!

A real enexpensive way I have used for clays, is go down to harbor freight and buy some 10" tent stakes. They can pound in the ground easy and the T at the top can hold the clay. Surprisingly the plastic T holds up quite well to birdshot. Kinda cheesy but effective for the budget