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5 hours ago, ColoradoNick said:
For those posting about being tired after a match I’d love to hear what your physical fitness routine is. How many times a week do you workout, for how long, and what do you do for workouts?
ive been a competitive athlete my whole life. running, cycling, xc skiing, enduro, and now hockey. currently in the summer i typically pedal 3-5 hrs a week, and spend a day on the moto riding backwoods trails. in the winter i spend a similar amount of time on the ice, with some xc skiing as well. i have always been in better shape than almost everyone my age, but it still wears me out to build a stage, shoot/ro/reset 6 stages and tear down. part of it is also the mental fatigue of planning and visualizing each stage.
if someone is not tired at the end of a local match, i wonder if that person is actually doing their share. for sure its not as tiring as cycling the leadville100, or terrible two double century (which i have done), but its still a lot of work if you are doing your share.
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21 minutes ago, shred said:
If the standing around is the part making you tired, you should be pasting and resetting and RO-ing more
My GPS usually says I walk about a mile per stage at matches.
^this.
i don’t get tired from running 20 yards, i get tired from carrying walls and nailing fault lines, then resetting steel all day, then pulling up all. the spikes and carrying props back to the shed.
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if i lived where the op lives and had enough cash to consider spending 3k on a class, i would probably arrange to spend 8hrs with steve anderson at his range in ohio (i prefer driving over flying)and then do it again in a year.
i have taken classes from ben when i was first starting out, and then later from tim herron and charlie perez (cha-lee, who posted in this thread). all were very helpful, but the smaller the class is the better it is imho. trying to learn stuff with 10 other shooters is annoying.
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2 hours ago, barry said:
Uspsa has never been a pure shooting contest. Has always had problem solving as a large part of it. Either physical or mental problem solving.
correct.this is one of. the main attractions for me over other shooting sports. if some people hate that, they can do steel challenge or some other standstill sport.
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what constitutes a physical stage? I have done plenty of stages at nationals that require 20 or 30 total yards of running, but that doesn’t really seem all that physical to me.
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6 hours ago, RJH said:
Well just looking at the poll results, I figured that good enough was good enough would be number one and it is, but it surprises me that by a large margin people seem to want more physicality at matches in the number two spot. With as much complaining as I hear on Enos, I felt action bullseye would be in the number two spot. But it appears people don't just want to shoot el prez's all day
I think most of the complaining is from the same two or three people that don’t even shoot anymore. I think most of the matches I do are pretty well, balanced, and have enough physicality, but I suspect it is more than some other parts of the country.
The bottom line is that after set up, then six stages with reset and then tear down. I am usually pretty darn tired at the end of the day.
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3 hours ago, RJH said:
I'm not wondering about what used to happen, I'm asking who wants to do that now for real
me.
i enjoy the 50 yd standards at western states ss, and i have designed and built some 100 yard running stages (with knee high hurdles) for the hawktech/parma 1911 match.
but im only 62. i get that there are some older folks, so when i have a prone position i usually make the targets available from other less advantageous positions as well.
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13 hours ago, ltdmstr said:
Point is, it hardly matters with minor pf and a dot. Basically, it's a foot race/obstacle course where you pop off some rounds along the way. Really not much different than SASS. And with the growing contingent of LARP types, it's basically turning into SASS for the tacticool crowd.
meh, uspsa has always been a footrace/obstacle course where you popoff some shots. even with irons the targets are all pretty easy to hit when there is no time pressure, so the challenge is to execute fairly easy marksmanship fundamentals at high speed while being distracted by other things
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6 minutes ago, Joe4d said:
much crying will be had... USPSA GMs have issues hitting a barn wall from inside barn..
Run fast spray and prey bask in gloryiirc, you don’t even shoot uspsa matches, which might explain your silly claim.
my experience shooting 20-30 yard targets at nationals (mixed partials and open) is that the gms are also better at that skill than everyone else. no matter how difficult i make the shooting at a local match, the same 5 or so guys are battling for the overall.
if one does poorly at matches, its because one sucks at shooting and would rather make excuses than train, not because theres too much running and the targets are too easy.
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9 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said:
Yea, and the fat gm likely looked at all the running and knew that he didn't have any chance against faster folks at his shooting skill level that he could normally beat or compete with.
not if he was good at math. since there is literally only a couple seconds difference between a fast guy and a non disabled slow guy over a hundred yards, it seems like the shooting might end up being alot more important. making up an uncalled miss on steel typically takes a second or more. an error leading to a standing reload (this was a ss match) is around 3 seconds. with 40-50 shots and stage times near a minute, 2-3 seconds of running speed are not nearly as important as 40-50 transitions and 5-6 each position entries and exits. most people who think they suck at running are really losing the time on entries and exits.
sure, every possible skill provides a slight advantage for the people who are good at that skill, but in my experience it all comes out in the wash.
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9 hours ago, ltdmstr said:
Let's just do away with power factor requirement all together and make all the targets 7-10 yards. Like SASS. Seems like that's where things are heading anyway.
7-10 yds really? i am seeing (and hearing about) significantly more difficult targets now that everyone is shooting dots.
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19 minutes ago, shred said:
You can argue Major PF is too high, and it should be what +P 9mm LE or defense loads are at, or maybe since 125 was set up to allow .38 Special snubnose revolvers to play, it could use a change too.
if anything, both major and minor are set too low, to appease lazy people and revo shooters.
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2 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said:
Like many things it depends a great deal on who designs the stages, in this case it can also depend on the size of the shooting bays. I tend to agree with you on what I would call a well balanced match with a good test of the different shooting skills. There are some matches that are well known as track meet matches.
i have done outlaw stages with 100+ yards of running and still got beat by the fat gm. i can cover 100 yds a couple seconds faster, but he can shoot 40 pieces of steel a couple seconds faster.
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On 3/16/2024 at 4:33 PM, Joe4d said:
well doing good in USPSA doesn t equal being able to shoot,,, so yeh... I can see the run fast people being butt hurt they need to do something other than run fast
haha, what a silly excuse for losing. unless you are truly disabled, running fast is far less important than shooting fast and accurately and transitioning fast.
when i watch people who complain about running, i usually find that they do *everything* slowly, and just aren’t very good at shooting.
when i watch people who win matches, i see that i can outrun many of them, and many of them are carrying lots of extra weight, but they *all* shoot at a very high level.
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7 hours ago, 392heminut said:
Very true!
Being a department firearms instructor for 14 years and a USPSA shooter for 27 years, it's been my experience that attitudes like this is why we don't have more LEOs involved in this sport!
we have a s#!t ton of leos involved in this sport. at my local range we treat them just like everyone else, with courtesy, respect and enforcement of the rules. no special treatment needed.
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1 hour ago, MHicks said:
How many shooters here if you were new and inexperienced with both range and match procedures figure it would be a good idea to just show up and take your chances to shoot a match without making any effort to get some information from range or match representatives? That's not how I went about it.
excellent point, but even so, we are not dicks when noobs show up with loaded guns and no clue. we simply walk them over to an empty bay and give them a quick briefing and supervise the unloading. its not complicated unless one or both parties decide to make it complicated.
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6 hours ago, bluewaters182 said:
You are correct in this assumption. So for the remainder of the states where concealed carry is common (like mine) there are no such unloading stations that I have seen. Not saying they don't exist, they surely don't seem to be common. Especially by the answers in this thread. And I am sorry you live in such a state sir.
idaho resident here, our local range has an unloading station between the parking lot and the main pistol pits, but it is rarely used because most of us don’t shoot our carry guns in matches. on the occasions where i do shoot my carry gunin an idpa match, i unload it at home and risk the deadly 8 mile drive with an empty gun on my belt. i haven’t died yet.
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On 3/8/2024 at 9:02 AM, Joe4d said:
There is a distance point of retreating where shooters will find it advantageous to put gun over shoulder and run up range, vs stay faciing and pointing down range and step backwards.. and IMO that distance is at a point where your good stage changes from a shooting challenge to a bad DQ trap sprint track skills challenge.thankfully i don’t shoot matches where you design the stages, because the point where backing up isn’t a LOT slower is about 2 steps for normal non-disabled people. 99% of local shooters here have no issues whatsoever with turning to run uprange. we remind the other guy when a retreat is necessary.
as an ro and stage designer for 12 years now, its been rare in my experience when a retreat causes any kind of problem. most people have an easy time understanding the concept of keeping the gun pointed downrange. i see far more problems with lateral movement and reloads, or with having a malfunction or unexpected reload when facing to the weak side.
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15 minutes ago, shred said:
I think that's irrelevant to the question. If you shoot 80% of the best (however that's determined) on any classifier, you should get an 80% and not a 70% on this one and 90% on that other one, right?
thats one way to do it, and its not statistically sound imho. a far better way is to determine into which percentile your score falls. is in the best 1% of scores ever submitted? that is probably solid shooting even if its only 90% of the best ever run.
using percentiles is self-adjusting and makes the whole hhf concept irrelevant.
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Just now, THS said:
Context. The response was to those saying you get DQ'd for actions in the parking lot. NOT TRUE as the parking lot is not part of the range. You could violate a club rule, but that has NOTHING to do with USPSA and a DQ.
I did not skip over your comment. The fact remains the guy can do ANYTHING in the parking lot and it has NOTHING to do with USPSA rules. Period. End of DQ conversation. He can go there and solve the issue.
this may be true of the parking lot at your range, but it is not reasonable to assume that is the case at all ranges. in many places the parking lot is close enough that is generally considered to be part of the range, and handling your gun there will be a dq if a match official sees it.
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15 hours ago, THS said:
Consuming alcohol will get you fired if you are carrying a duty firearm. Most states also void your ccw privileges if you have ANY alcohol in your system. My million dollar umbrella policy is also voided if I was armed and had alcohol in my system.
Not worth the risk.
here in idaho (and utah also i believe) it is legal to drink while carrying. same limits apply as to driving. probably why we have a lower homicide rate than alberta and manitoba to our north.
anyway, rjh, sarge and broadside72 are all pretty much right imho. the safest, most correct, and most by the book way to handle a loaded weapon is to provide an unloading station or have an official supervise the unloading in an empty bay. unless the individual did something amazingly stupid and unsafe, a dq wouldn’t be on my list of actions.
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11 minutes ago, RadarTech said:
I’m sorry. But your post literally just says to go to the car and HANDLE a loaded weapon…
That is ABSOLUTELY the wrong way to have common sense… handling a firearm at the car is a DQ, with the exceptions written in for a PCC.
agreed. we have rules and procedures to handle this already. handling your loaded gun in your car is not part of them.
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we have a few of each. slideride (ours are all plastic body) are cheap and reliable with a crisp round dot. we use them on 22s and pcc for steel. because cheap it is not a problem to have them on 5 different guns.
romeo 3 is slightly brighter, almost as crisp, sits lower and is a better choice on an open gun. i would also consider sro and holosun 507 comp. the holosun is my new favorite. wife prefers the sig.
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19 minutes ago, BritinUSA said:
If people are sandbagging and getting away with it then that's a problem that the org needs to acknowledge and rectify. If you have specific examples then please send them to the org and ask them why it has not been fixed.
It's possible that they are not checking for this kind of stuff.
imho, the best way to deal with sandbagging is to avoid giving valuable prizes to class “winners”, and otherwise ignore it. acknowledge the achievement with a cheap trophy if you must. i don’t care too much about that stuff.
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my solution to this problem has always been to just grind the slide stop down so it will never activate, period.