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  1. I am a newer shooter overall. Started USPSA last summer.

    I have a M&P pro 9mm for production(have owned for less than a month) and a Pro .40(Bought when I started out) set up for limited. Both have the same trigger pull (just got them back after a trigger job)

    First time since taking to the range for pratice since both triggers jobs were done.

    I always shoot down low left (jerk trigger)and it is even more evident with a trigger job. It is also drastically more obvious with my .40 than my 9mm.

    I dry fire at home and it doesn't seem to happen. Just shooting at the range.

    Anyone had this issue starting out and had a drill they use to solve it? Any other pointers?

    Thanks,

    Chris

    I used to have a horrible flinch problem and still fight it when I'm tired or trying to go too fast. I developed a lot of bad habits starting out because I was self taught and didn't benefit from formal instruction. When I finally sought professional help my instructor immediately diagnosed my anticipation flinch problem and proposed that I acquire a 22 pistol that was as close to my "real gun's" configuration as possible. He said to buy 2 bricks of 22 ammo and shoot only the 22 until the whole lot was fired WITH PURPOSE...NO PLINKING. You have to concentrate hard on front sight focus and treat the training as seriously as possible but the reduced recoil will let you work on the fundamentals. Once the fundamentals are learned, they transfer almost 100% to the larger gun. You may still have problems and have to do some "refresher" training from time to time.

    Luckily for you they make your exact gun in a 22 version. Seek an instructor or a good friend who is also a good shooter to help. Very few new shooters can teach themselves correctly. There is no substitute for rounds down range WITH PURPOSE and a good 22 allows for LOTS of rounds down range.

  2. Which holster do you use? Is it possible to get a full firing grip right out of the holster? If not, seek a better holster.

    As for sight alignment after the draw, it sounds like you may need to work on your presentation from the IWB. Other than the slight amount of extra time to reach further back, the presentation should be the same as any other holster once the gun is drawn. Move both hands at the same time, one to the gun and one centered at the belly, get a full grip, draw and move gun to center of body about nipple high while adding the weak hand to the grip, push to target while acquiring sights.

    You may be swinging out to the side a bit due to the position of the IWB causing a swinging presentation, like a right hook, instead of a straight push. This can cause you to swing past the first target to the left due to momentum if you are right handed.

  3. Contacts all the way...that is until you get old and need readers to see the sights.

    I just had my first pair of prescription shooting glasses made. They have wrap around lenses and clarity throughout the lens is pretty good. It was a necessity due to old eyes but man I miss my contacts on match days!

  4. Blue Dot is an excellent large caliber magnum pistol powder. I used it for hunting loads in my 44 mag. It is probably not a really good choice for 9mm.

    If you haven't opened it yet you may be able to swap for something better. Look in your loading manual and select a few powders that comes closest (on paper) to the one you normally use. Try them instead of Blue Dot...you may like them.

  5. "Super" Dave Harrington taught a shotgun/carbine class with Ken Hackathorn in Atlanta several years ago. I took the class and Dave teaches the push/pull and called it "driving the shotgun". The strong hand pulls back and works the trigger while the weak hand drives the shotgun to the target. It feels weird at first because it is opposite of what Grandpa taught me but once you get used to it your splits will be better and target to target should improve.

    Effectively, it forces the pivot point for muzzle rise to the center of the shotgun and theoretically should reduce muzzle flip by about half. It certainly "feels" that way. When you pull back with both hands you force the pivot point to the butt/shoulder causing all the rise to be at the muzzle. With push/pull the pivot is between your hands so the muzzle goes up and the butt dives just a little...like a teeter-totter. Using this method we fired approximately 200 rounds of buckshot and slugs in half a day without even a strawberry or any sign of shoulder tenderness. In fact we intentionally fired many rounds with the buttstock an inch or so off the shoulder and some with the gun rotated horizontal with the butt laying on top of the shoulder in order to shorten the gun for close quarters work.

    It is worth trying during the off-season to see how it works for you.

  6. Creep like a Ninja! :ph34r:

    All the advice so far is good. If you have ever taken or seen martial arts movement, that is what you are looking for...low slow and roll heel to toe. I saw a neat drill this weekend. Imagine a 10 foot circle on the ground (or draw one) and set up a target 10 yards from the front edge of the circle. Load your pistol and have some mags on you. Fire on the target while travelling the circle in your best Ninja creep, reloading as necessary. This will force you to go every direction and help you identify which directions give you trouble. If that gets too hard for you then do a square so you are walking straight lines and work up to the circle when you get better.

    You will find that moving to the strong side is pretty easy but moving to the weak side requires moving more backward than forward...in other words, your upper body stays almost the same in relationship to the target and your foot and leg movement determines your direction.

    Before you fire shots, try it dry and just watch your front sight for smooth movement. If it bobbles you aren't creeping correctly.

  7. ...I know where my bullets are hitting but I have to look for some reason...even when I know by calling my shot that I had a bad hit I hesitate before making up that shot and still look to see where bullet hit...is there something I can do to get over this hurdle.

    Trust your sights. If you see your sights lift and it indicates a bad hit then make it up right now. Feel the force, Luke. I sometimes actually make up a good hit that just "felt" bad when I fired it...that costs me less than half a second. If it actually was a bad hit I didn't make it up it would cost me more than that. You'll have plenty of time to look at your hits after you are finished shooting.

  8. It's just a lot of work. We are not ISO, and have not started the process yet. But from my limited understanding you have to have procedures for literally everything that is done on the manufacturing floor.

    I'm sure there are many more aspects that I'm not aware of but I think the mountain of work is just intimidating. Nothing that I or any potential bright engineering all star can't handle!

    Darren

    It's not as bad as you might think. Our company has been ISO certified for decades because winning contracts demanded it but if you approach it in the right frame of mind it can be a very good thing for your business.

    Essentially, ISO certification requires that you:

    1) Document what you do (Procedures and work instructions)

    2) Do what you document (actually do things the way you say you do)

    3) Measure the result (be able to prove number 2)

    The best way to document your processes is to have the people who do each job simply write down what they do, as if they are writing it for a newly hired person to use as a training tool. Of course someone with writing and organizational skills will need to compile all this documentation into an acceptable and consistent form.

    Then you have to demand that each job be done the way it was documented and find a way to measure performance and compliance through statistical analysis and audits.

    That is ISO in a nutshell. The benefit you get, if you approach it as a quality improvement tool instead of a bureaucratic requirement, is you enhance your ability to perform in a consistent manner. The other benefit is, when suggestions for the improvement to a process occur, you already have a method to measure the result of the proposed improvement.

    I'm nearly 58 now and have been employed in the Engineering and Design enviornment since I was a Co-op at age 18... the last 33 years with my current company doing High Technology Test Facility Design and construction for the Aero-Space, Automotive and Motorsprots industries worldwide. I wish you guys were local or needed someone who could work from their home, I would apply. Relocation just isn't in the cards.

  9. Did Heinie do the install? If so, I would contact them about possible remedies first.

    To make up 5" at 30 ft you would have to file close to .04 inches off the front. That would probably get into the insert or very close to it anyway. Heinie offers front sights in .175, .185, .190 and .200 tall. Do you know which you currently have installed?

  10. Sounds like "timer fever". When you practice you probably shoot at the fastest speed you can and still hit A's. At the match you probably heard that timer go off and your first thought was "I better shoot fast".

    Don't focus on the target, focus on the front sight. Find the top center of the front sight, put in in the very center of the A zone and tap that shot but keep your focus on that front sight. Don't press that trigger until the sight and target are aligned, however long that takes or you will miss and, as we all know, you can't miss fast enough to win. It is a total waste of lead and powder to fire a shot that isn't aimed.

    To shoot well in a match just forget about it being a match. It's just better practice with people to help set up and paste your targets :cheers:

  11. My M1S90 is shooting slugs about 3" to 4" low at 50 yards when sighting down the rib with the Hi-Viz Comp front sight so I'm thinking about adding the 10-22 flip rear to the barrel. Any tech advice appreciated...

    What dovetail cutter do I need? What is the proper depth to cut into the recessed rear rib on an M1 VR barrel?

    Is there a sight that is better than the Ruger?

    Thanks for any help...

  12. I've been trying to stage a comeback after a 6 year layoff from the shooting sports (recovering from the financial oddities of a divorce) and found myself struggling a bit in the performance department. People I used to outshoot were now kicking my tail! Part of the problem was an inability to get a sharp front sight picture due to older eyes...fixed that. The other was equipment related. I like my Glock and it shoots well thanks to some Heinie sights and a sweet trigger done by a fellow shooter but I missed the STI 40 cal I built years ago but had to sell in order to survive after the divorce.

    I decided that I was going to shoot 9mm now because I don't want to spend the time and trouble to reload any more and factory 9mm is right at the IDPA power factor for ESP. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who is also a master pistolsmith so we decide to build it from scratch rather than start with a factory gun...STI slide and frame, KKM barrel, Brown safeties and bushing, Cylinder and slide fire controls and Dawson Precision sights. The chrome was done by Accurate Plating. The target in the photo was my sight in target fired one day before the first match with the new Pistol. The shots in the body were sighters during the adjustment and the head shots were my "10 shots for group" off the bags at 30 yards. It's good to be back!

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  13. I have them on my G17 IDPA SSP Pistol...actually have the straight eight nite site model since my G17 also doubles as my home defense gun.

    I love the sights. It's my second set of Heinie sights on that gun. First set of non-quick original slant pros went dim after about 10 years so I got the new set to replace them. I like the quick sight much better. Much faster to acquire and align. Mine hits about 1.5 to 2 inches high at 25 yards and just about dead on at 50 with 115 gr American Eagle.

  14. How bout some pics?

    Are the followers grams, Bolen, STI, SVI, Dawson?

    Grams follower, happens with every mag. the only mag that ran was an sv big stick. I only got to run it once so I don't know if it "really" worked. Yes it does nosedive. Take five out of any mag it feeds fine. It just seems when the pressure of a full mag is taken off it will feed.

    Do you ever come up and shoot with the Middle Tennessee Shooters Club in Manchester TN (about an hour or so from you)? We will be shooting next Sunday at 12:30 and I have a 9mm STI and tuned 120mm mags we could try in your pistol to see if we could troubleshoot the problem a little. I also have range access any time so if you would rather come up this weekend I could try to help out. We have a local guy who is a wizard with these kinds of problems and he would probably be willing to help as well.

  15. See if you have the same problem if you load one round less than full capacity. If that fixes the problem then it means the full mag doesn't leave enough room for the top round to partially depress when inserted into your pistol with the slide closed. There are some cures for this like a differend basepad that allows extra space or a different spring that takes up less room. Or you can just load one round less and let 'er rip.

  16. I like this one...have it on 3 rifles so far and all shoot well with it. It reduces (doesn't eliminate) recoil but tames muzzle rise very well and my rifles shoot flat with it. I've put it on a 20" RR Coyote, an 18" Sabre Competition Deluxe Piston and a Sabre M4 Tactical...they all like it. Your results may vary of course.

    I don't care for the washers they send with it...too big on the ID so they don't center well without help...so I used a crush washer on the last one of mine with excellent results. A peel washer would probably work well too.

    http://www.precisionreflex.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=186719&CAT=4274

  17. That particular "MOA" at 200 yards is way better than some people can shoot!

    In defense of the group size (actually closer to 1.5 MOA)...I used to shoot a LOT of Long Range Precision Rifle and I'm really comfortable off the bags. But the key point is there are comps and brakes that will allow you to hold groups. If I had one that didn't I would be shopping for one that did.

  18. Any time you change/add something metal to the end of your barrel, you have the potential to change the harmonics of your barrel. This can change your POI, or can make you shots inconsistent.

    I think it goes beyond adding something metal. Basically any change could affect your POI... My point was that I am surprised that so many choose to run comps in spite of the negative impact on groups...or do some comps not affect bullet groupings or do some impact less?

    As I stated above...the comp I use did change my POI but not my group size. I'm getting very close to MOA at 200 yards with XM193 ammo. I can't ask for much better without reloading.

  19. Off the original subject matter but following the theme of the last comments...one handed shooting.

    I thought shooting strong and weak hand was tough in IDPA matches and classifiers until I took a tactical pistol class and the instructor said "OK...you are suddenly aware that you are being attacked and the first shot hits your strong arm". We had to shove our strong hand in our back pocket, draw from a strong side CCW holster with our weak hand, fire on targets to slide lock, hold the pistol upside down between our knees to do a one handed reload, use our belt and the rear sight to rack the slide and shoot some more. It was a real eye opening experience. It made IDPA weak hand shooting seem easy.

  20. "...harbinger of bad things to come."

    The "bad things" came a long time ago and are, in fact, the bad things we're seeing NOW.

    It may even be why our Congress is dysfunctional, eh? <_<

    agreed...it's been a long time since our elected representatives showed honor and did what was best for we, the people, instead of whatever they pleased in spite of us...and yet, we (as a society) keep electing them.

    We need a resurrection of moral character, honor and integrity in this country. As a society we have lost our way. If we don't find our way again very soon we will go the way of Egypt, Rome, France, England and all the other societies which had their day in the sun only to collapse under their own weight of corruption and decadence.

  21. The problem with all these suggestions is that they get me used to shooting (aiming) at something that isn't going to be present on match day. What I'm trying to achieve is - when transitioning from plate to plate I can subconsciously be aiming at something smaller than the whole plate. Our plates have 2 bolts through them that would be good for aiming at, but are located an inch from the top and sides of the plate, leaving a small margin of error.

    You are over thinking this. The change that needs to happen is between your ears, not on the plate.

    Instead of thinking "put the front sight on the plate and press" try thinking "put the exact top center of the front sight post on the exact center of the plate and press". Do your drill with approx 6 freshly painted 8" plates at 15 yards and shoot the first run just like you were shooting each plate for a dead center group like you would on a slow fire target...very slow and very deliberate, perfect sight picture and slow squeeze. When you set the plates back up, take notice of where your shots struck the plates. If any are more that an inch or so from the center then repeat until you get nicely centered hits on each plate. This will drill into your brain the sight picture you should try to achieve for each and every plate without any tricks or gimmicks.

    Now speed up the next run a little...and the next a little more until you find shots that get within an inch or so of the edge of the plate. When you reach that speed then that's your sweet spot for now. If you go any faster then you are going to start missing plates. Just like a dragster trying to hook up on the track. There's an optimum speed and if they exceed that they are just spinning their tires.

    Just learn how to focus and get "tunnel vision" that seeks the exact top center point of the front sight (not the whole sight) resting at the exact center of the plate (not the whole plate). To increase your future speed you just have to learn to achieve the sight picture faster, not shoot faster. It's all in how you think about it.

  22. I'm afraid our current permissive, all about me, no real right or wrong...only "choices", high self esteem, low responsibility, trot out the excuses society has created an entire generation made largely of young people with no clue what honor, integrity and character mean. Granted, there are older folks without honor too but our young people are in a heck of a mess right now.

    It's a real shame and harbinger of bad things to come.

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