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Nobody?

Any recommendations on someone who can remove the wearing factory finish and put a finish on my Ti carrier?

Missed it by....that much.

Can some example the difference in these two set ups? https://benstoegerproshop.com/cz-sp-01-shadow-2-carry-optics-23-1-complete-magazine-kit/ https://benstoegerproshop.com/cz-sp-01-shadow-2-carry-optics-3-gun-6-magazine-kit/

This was the best sectional yet, which is saying alot, because our sectionals are always pretty outstanding.

there you go Kurt......that's what you wanted right? Another replay from Kurt where you try and make the OP look stupid but don't actually give any useful information. Kind of your MO these days. But yes you're right, I'm a benelli expert, that's why I got on a public forum and asked for people's opinion and advice. Enjoy being up on that pedestal. But you're right, the issue is probably a non issue, being that I'm "assuming" under recoil, the shells in the tube float for just a split second, giving the shell catch a little head start. Plus with the rearward movement of the gun, the bouncing effect is softened. But that's just a guess. Just odd that different shells act so differently. And that my two stock benellis with stiffer springs don't do it at all.

Reading, it's tough for you old guys I know. Have you tried cheaters, heard they help. "just worried it may be a precursor to a future problem" I'd rather figure out it's a non issue or get ahead of a possible issue before it shows it's head, not after. I will say through tinkering, in case others have this problem, I added a smaller interior spring to my shell catch (kind of like the versamax). Solved problem. Thinking maybe my new shell catch spring is a little soft (hopefully just got a bad one). It's a fine line though, too much spring pressure pinches shell against frame too much and causes a different problem.

Thanks. I was more referring to the shell bouncing forward so far. Under recoil the gun runs fine, just worried it may be a precursor to a future problem. Or it's completely normal. Just odd that some shells do it and some don't.

I guess you know it's a good one when two days and no opinions.

When the shells released from the tube, it's going back, bouncing off the plastic that's part of the trigger assembly. It's then bouncing forward tell it hits the part of the shell catch that actually catches the shell (pretty much the front on the shell is almost touching the follower). Odd part, Remington sts and high brass don't do it, Win AA don't do it too bad, Federals do it the worst as described above. Obviously this is just in manually shell releasing/cycling. But with the shell being so far forward and the added leverage, it will lock the bolt back tell you give the follower a little push vs the STS (that's always all the way back, shell touching plastic stop on the trigger assembly) you can ride the bolt home (trying to get it to lock back and you can't do it, works everytime). Gun has brand new shell catch spring and tube spring.

The longer spring is actually a lighter spring. Just for an fyi.

Thank you! Makes sense.

Had it happen twice last year and once today. The issue is the shell is getting released from the tube a little late (I'm assuming) and the lifter is already coming up. So the shell and lifter have now pinned each other in placed. Guns completely locked up. Only way to fix malfunction, is to reach in through ejection port and push down on lifter. Picture is a recreation.

Thanks guys

Older gun, never seen/done this before. What is it? Causes it? Should I worry? Fyi, cleaned it off and joint looks great. Gaps look tight and normal.

I know this has been beaten into the ground, but my question is more specific. Which one runs flatter? Logic would say the extra weight of the 3 would, regardless of bull barrel. But the only two relevant posts I've every read, the shooters felt the 2 was a tiny bit flatter.

What kind of trigger pull weights are the factory guns getting?

Is there a possibility this match will get cancelled? For out of towners with hotel reservations, would be extremely unfortunate but I see there's only 39 people signed up with 50 opened slots.

How much does tri topping a slide reduce the weight of a slide versus just a flat top? Anyone have any figures?

Anyone seen an estimate on round count and break down?

G@S PEDAL

USPSA is a 501c(3) non-profit, so that's not necessarily accurate and you missed the point Chuck was trying to make.

Go on? 12 ounces less weight and virtually the same bore axis. That's all you need to know. That's not all you need to know.The x-cal uses a rotary barrel vs the tilt barrel of the CZ/Tagfos. What is the difference in reciprocating mass? What is the moment of inertia of the two guns? ( and how does the moment change while the gun is cycling). Are the guns tuned so there isn't a 'hard' impact when the slide comes back/forward? Then you have to look at the bio-mechanics. grip angle? palm swells? grip texture? You have to examine a gun as a whole, not just a mass/bore axis. A rotary barrel does not extinguish recoil. The rotary barrel induces a horizontal force. However, neither the tilt nor the rotation of the barrel has any significant effect on recoil or muzzle flip. Reciprocating mass does not directly matter. The inertial forces matter. When you shoot ammo of the same Power Factor you are going to have roughly the same reciprocating inertia. Again however, this is largely insignificant. Revolvers have muzzle flip and it is obviously not due to their slide weights. Lighter slides do nothing to change recoil, and the effect on muzzle flip is almost entirely subjective and mitigated by recoil spring tuning. When you look at the actual physics, all that really matters is the mass and the bore axis. I'm including the location of the mass in that. You can't get around Newton's third by wishful thinking. And that opposite force is directed at the bore axis. It is then just a simple matter of leverage. When you shot the x caliber, did you not think it shot as flat as a cz?

That's so awesome of you to volunteer

Got to love all the passive-aggressive drama....the hair gel and big sunglasses are fitting.