Ben Diss
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I bought one and tried if on my rifle length ACE stock. The only difference I noted was that I had to turn my gas up a bit to get the bolt to lock back on an empty mag. I took if off. I think with a carbine stock it would make a difference.
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Updates are up!
Friends, this will be an accuracy intensive match. Besides the obvious long rifle shots, I'll just say it will help to know where your pistol hits past 25 yards, and you may see a few close targets smaller than 6" x 6".
Excellent! I shot Hartford where we had a 100 yard pistol shot. That was a blast. Looking forward to it!
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In that case, have you tried Titegroup? Snappy, fast powder, but burns hot so not recommended for lead bullets. For PPC, I shoot a MG 200 CMJ with 4.6 of Titegroup. For major, I'd try 5.8 or 6.0 grains of Titegroup.
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No, you wouldn't want to try and make major with N310.
For major, have you tried a 230 grain bullet with 4.1 of Clays?
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Bullseye shooters like the Nosler and Zero 185 JHP with either 4.5 Bullseye, 4.5 700x, or 4.2 N310. COL's range from 1.20 to 1.22 depending on who's loading them. I'd try loading that bullet with N310 and I'll bet your ES goes down.
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I'm using Nill grips on a PPC revolver. I like the open back model with the extended pinky grip. I think you'd only want to the closed back if you have really long fingers or are shooting single action only. I like Nill grips and recommend them.
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I bought the Power Custom jig after reading this thread. It's OK, but not great. If you apply pressure to the stone, the angle of the sear on the mount can change resulting in an offset cut. Also, there is play in the sear position on the mount so you have to decide which end of the slack to take up when you hold the sear in place. I learned to overcome both of these and ended up cutting a great sear and hammer, but it was a PITA.
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App's in the mail. Looking forward to this.
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Hornady's are good but very expensive, and I shoot alot of the wadcutters(PPC shooter). Precision Delta's are sized at .357 vs. the .358 of Remington and Hornady and they lead my gun something ferocious. Zero's are also sized .357 and they lead my gun even worse than Precision Delta. Must be a quirk of my gun because I know alot of people who like the Precision Delta's and the Zero's.
Zero's lead my PPC gun too. I shoot only Remmy's with Bullseye. Tightest groups and no lead fouling.
Wish I could find a good source for them. My local gun shop has them once in a while and I stock up.
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David Sams is just west of Richmond. Outstanding smith.
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When I started with these, I couldn't close the #1. I do rapid reps with the 'S' on my way to and from work which is about a 10 min drive. I can do 80 reps now. I try to do it 3 times a week. After about 10 months, I can do 20 reps with the #1 and there's no doubt that these have helped my shooting.
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Now that I'm shooting my 9Pro a bit more I've started to have this happen. In recent practice sessions I've worked on my grip, improving how firmly I hold the gun. I suspect I'm thumbing the release too. This only happens during rapid fire at a match and never happens when slow firing in practice or firing off a bag on the bench. Gotta figure out how to get my thumb off the release.
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Get a big set of feeler gauges and you'll have a variety of hardened material to use of differing thicknesses.
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What's different about the 650 powder measure than the 550?
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MY M&P Pro blew up out of battery shooting a Bianchi rail about a year ago. Gun was stock and I only had it a few months. Smith replaced it for me but it did scare the hell out of me when it happened!!! I was shooting Winchester White Box ammo at the time!
Yea, that's what my hand looked like. Kinda hurt for a bit.
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Make sure you tighten the set screw for the shell plate bolt.
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The shell plate really does snap quite a bit. I have the bearing kit for it so I guess I'll drop some powder this weekend and see if it snaps too much for my 9MAJOR loads.
Tighten up the shell plate a little bit at a time until if softens the "landing". Watch the primer station and make sure it's stopping centered or you'll bugger up your primers. If it isn't, back off the bolt just bit until you find a good trade off between reduced snapping and stopping centered. After your first 50 rounds and then at 500 rounds, check it again.
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I think I see why examining the head is important. If it did fire out-of-battery, the firing pin would not have struck the primer in the center. Yea, that's got me puzzled. I'm going to go through my brass and look for signs of weak cases. I save all my brass. I'll also inspect the brass I've not yet loaded and see how it looks.
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You piqued my curiosity with your COL. I cut two slits in a case, started a bullet (147gr Precision Delta), placed it in my 9mm FS chamber and pushed it until flush. COL 1.245".
It didn't fit the magazine, too long. As the top round of a mag it chambered OK. During extraction it wouldn't clear the port due to it's length. When released from the extractor it fell out the mag well.
New reading of 1.240"
The flat nose of the MG 147g makes the COL hard to compare to other rounds. It's a short bullet.
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OP here again.
Here's some new news. Was talking to a buddy that was at the range with me when this happened. He reminded me about the squib I had a few days earlier with this gun. I was rapid firing and the gun wouldn't fire. I examined the gun to find the round had fed from the magazine but hadn't gone fully into the chamber. I cleared and examined the gun to find a bullet just into the barrel. A light tap with a squid rod removed it. Examining the case and base of the recovered bullet it was evident that it had no powder. Since I was new with a 650 (having upgraded from a 550) I chalked it up to user error and moved on.
I'm wondering now if I had another no-powder load that resulted in an undetected squib. The next round didn't seat completely in the chamber, but was far enough in for the slide to close sufficiently for the gun to fire. Someone smiled me as the barrel is not damaged in any way from firing with a bullet lodged in the barrel.
Possible?
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Mine are at 1.130 to 1.140" Your 1.40" seems a bit long.
I'm loading the MG 147 JFP at 1.25"
when I saw this post, I read everything that you had posted on your observations on how the gun would fire with it 1/8 to 1/4. I went out to the garage with my MP9, MP9L with a apex spring kit and my MP40pro with a apex FSS kit. I had put a BIC ball point pen down the barrel to see if the firing pin would actually hit it, in which case a real case would more that likely fire if in the gun. All 3 guns would have the barrels start to unlock and drop withing a 1/16th of a inch and with a 1/4 inch rear travel the barrels were .2 inch below the top of the slide. the only place that my guns would even try and actuate the striker was at a 1/16. The FSS trigger seemed to be a little more, but not much. these are my obsevations with my guns. My guess is that you had case come apart. would it be possible to post a picture of the case with the primer showing.
HYG.
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I have an XD and an XD-m that will "fire" with slide back about 1/8", but I would think that since the round is not up against anything in front of it at that point, wouldn't the stryker just put the round forward? I'm gonna make some powderless rounds and see if it will ignite the primer...
I think the slide didn't go fully forward as the gun was very dirty at that point. Perhaps the chamber was dirty enough that the round wouldn't go forward fully until the chamber closed on it.
I guess thats possible, with MG bullets and many more rounds than you had shot between cleaning I've never had the slide not close due to a dirty chamber. Your chamber could be tighter and / or shorter than the next one. Lead bullets in my 40 S&W are another story.
The only brass I discard are the S&B that can be picketed up with a magnet and the swagger primer. (of course split and crushed too)
Maybe you had one loaded too long.
Anyway, keep up posted if you find anything out.
I have heard of enough crud building up on the chamber hood to prevent a pistol from going all the way into battery. In fact, IIRC, that discussion was in light of another out of battery detonation...
That said, I've put 1200-ish through my 9 Pro without cleaning before and there was no crud at all there. I've put nearly 4x that amount through the G17 without so much as a wipe down, and again-- nada.
I guess at this point I should ask the obvious... Are you sure it wasn't just case head separation, due to case failure?
It certainly could have been, but about 1/4" of the head was outside of the chamber. If you look at the pic in the first post, you can see the part of the case that was supported by the chamber and compare it to the unfired round to see how far in it was when it fired.
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I have an XD and an XD-m that will "fire" with slide back about 1/8", but I would think that since the round is not up against anything in front of it at that point, wouldn't the stryker just put the round forward? I'm gonna make some powderless rounds and see if it will ignite the primer...
I think the slide didn't go fully forward as the gun was very dirty at that point. Perhaps the chamber was dirty enough that the round wouldn't go forward fully until the chamber closed on it.
I guess thats possible, with MG bullets and many more rounds than you had shot between cleaning I've never had the slide not close due to a dirty chamber. Your chamber could be tighter and / or shorter than the next one. Lead bullets in my 40 S&W are another story.
The only brass I discard are the S&B that can be picketed up with a magnet and the swagger primer. (of course split and crushed too)
Maybe you had one loaded too long.
Anyway, keep up posted if you find anything out.
That's interesting that you brought up COL. I messed up on these loads and had them way too short. These were 1.05 where I usually load them to 1.25 and some load them as long as 1.40. One thought is the shorter round didn't feed as smoothly as it should and didn't fully seat. Since the slide didn't close, it wasn't pushed all the way in to the chamber.
We need new JP buffer/spring system reviews
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Other than having to open up the gas port, I didn't notice anything. A standard A2 stock may be different as I know I can hear the spring twang after each shot in my service rifle, but with the ACE stock it's always been quiet.