Crazy Scientist
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Well all t h e Glock talk makes me want to hurl lol.
BUt I think it brings a certain point. Glock/S&W/Springfield and now CZ/SIG have the Tupperwear market sewn up. Market is saturated. Tons of good options in the $500 range. I can;t remember which STI rep told me that had a "Glock Killer" with the Duo2 but that lol'd me pretty hard. I'm an M&P man myself, but I know Glocks run. $500 vs $2000. NO F N WAY. No gun is $1500 better for duty use. WE may chase triggers and speed but in Value, Glock got their first. Best you can do is join or copy them.
For better or worse 1911 Market is pretty well Saturated as well from base to high end.
But the "Timmy" market...well now thats another thing. These are guys who pay 3k for the Knights Armament/Noveske ARs and 5-6k for their 308s. For a long time they have been Glock guys, but if you could convince them to drop the big cash on some product they'll bite (see wilson combat, sorry gimme a cheap springer/colt any day). Seems like Staccatto/STI is making their play. The big mistake is dropping the Competition Market that sits in between Tupperwear at $500 and the High End Timmy Market at 3K. For a long time They milked that market pretty hard. But for me its a tough sell that an STI is somehow $1000 improvement on a Rock Island (Edge vs. High Cap) and its a no sell at $2400 or same price and semi-custom. But STI commanded the market, had the accessories and Para couldn't produce a wide-body to save their soul. Rock Island doesn't have name/brand recog so STI could coast.
Now they have thrown a big chunk of their market share for someone like BUL to go snap the crap outta that 1500-2k market. I'm not saying it is a guarantee. But they are definitely vulnerable and this move of kicking competition models to the curb makes them more vulnerable--Maybe their play in the timmy market pays off--but it does seem very short sighted to rain on your current main customer base when they haven't exactly been knocking it out of the park lately.
Not to mention that the BUL version of the Stacatto P is 25% less.
/Old cranky and abused by Tactical Timmies as a youth.
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Not to pick on wgj3, but the XL is $1400 more than the edge and is the only model they offer in .40
The P does not come in .40.
The R is a single stack.
I tend to take things personal, but that says to me that HEY LIMITED DIVISION SHOOTERS!!! TAKE A FLYING LEAP.--and considering STI dominated Limited Div, thats a big deal.
The name change: meh. The new lineup says to me, my (USPSA) business is wanted elsewhere. And I was a defender of theirs when people said there stuff wouldn't run. Mine runs great. But my new one will not be STI. At that price? Just go custom. Its nuts.
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On 11/4/2019 at 4:22 AM, stick said:
If you have safety concerns about your equipment, you shouldn't shoot it. Jitters are normal after a problem like the one you experienced. It's normal to feel that way, the fear of it happening again is what worries you. If you trust its fixed take it one shot at a time. Fire only one shot out of it, then go from there.
I appreciate this. Yeah it got fixed and I just started out slow. Had a long session today the restored some confidence.
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About a year ago I was shooting y versa max and the barrel split while shooting (Tried to see if it was ID10T error, but best efforts indicate it was a defect--non-concentric choke). No injuries, but definitely rattled me. I got it fixed, but I have been real reluctant to go shotgunning since (as in I haven't).
Am i crazy (yeah username, but serious) or just normal to have the jitters getting back on the horse after something like that. Rifle/Handgun is fine.
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I went to their local Dallas "STI Day" at a range. One rep even mentioned a "Glock 19 killer". I kinda had to laugh, as much as I dislike glocks, the $1500 price difference between whatever Staccato they came out with buys a lot of practice ammo/reloading equipment/beer. It did seem like the focus has shifted to the staccato line. I am not sure if that is good or bad. There doesn't seem to be a decent starting pistol out there in wide-body 1911 style. My used edge, was perfect--got me into Limited at under 2k, but now it seems they have ceeded that territory. I know the CZ-TSO is a very attractive alternative, but its not a 1911/2011.
I just don't get the widebody 1911 world. I may have to become an Armscor snob with my stupid 45 rig. Yeah its dumb and its 45, but it works for local "outlaw" matches and I'm in no danger of winning anything.
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On 6/22/2019 at 2:25 PM, Joe4d said:
Here are some pads, to get you to 140 Dawson and ahrensomethingorother also makes them as well as extra length spring kits.
https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Taylor-Freelance-Rock-Island-PARA-140mm-3-P5017.aspx
You should google to make sure Para mags work. Gun looks like same design,
Looking at the RIA websight though, I think your question may be where to get 140's,,, vs just mags.
I think answer to your question is you dont. You get the stock size mags then add extended base pads to get you up to the 140mm length and extra capacity you are looking for... Should be 15-16roundsOk now I get it, there is no such thing as a 140 para/ria mag (akin to the 126/140.170 mags from STI)-. Its just a normal mag with extended baseplate and matching spring for expanded capacity. That's why I was so confused. I found RIA/Para mags in spades, just didn't realize that was what I needed as a base. (Thinking like STI 140 + SNL Dawson = 20 rounds 40, so I need a 140 RIA mag + Baseplate= Full capacity). Its just 'Normal" Mag + extended plate to add capacity
Sometimes you guy's and your crazy limited/open world confuses us simple prod folk.
For future readers. Para Mags "P14" do work. I have both types. the MGP144514AFC or the P-14B-45-14 Arcmscor 54171. The MGP has an extra coating for $2 more.
I've only started but about 1000 rounds, no malf for either.
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On a whim, I got a 45 Double Stack RIA. Overall I have been impressed. Now obviously this is sort of an 'outlaw' gun, but should I decide to take up a true limited or 3-gun, where does one procure the 140 mm mags for these things. Using STI mags seems to be hit or miss, so why not just start with factory 140mm mags--but where the heck are they?-have google both on the site and web with no success. I was able to procure 'Full Size' 14 rounders for my 45 through Greg Cote (highly recommend btw), but tbh if the idea is to go with MBX mags, I'd rather just stick with my STI (yeah I'm a cheapskate, sue me). I have no issues tuning mags or minor smithing, just need to find something to start with.
Yes I realize its a 45, and I should shoot 40 for major--we have a couple of outlaw steel matches that I want to use this for--its my "fun/mad money" gun. What can I say, I love a big *** 45.
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ARISE NECRO THREAD.
For all the whining and complaining people do, it is proper to notice when a Company does things right/nice.
I received a fully repaired VersaMax earlier this week. No charge. They even included both chokes (new). Entire cost to me was buying a box to ship to Rem
Remington did this one right by me.
Now about those clays......
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RO class upcoming. I am an older more seasoned dood, but my shooting is very poor (I'm just slow and more of a thinker).
HOWEVER, whenever I go to matches they are always short on ROs. There is an upcoming RO class nearby. Any reason NOT to become certified?
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I must plead a slight senior moment--it appears I had forgotten how many I own. You know how it is, they just keep a multiplyin in that safe!
It wasn't Yogi Bera, but a nice Gun related Yogism I shall leave you with:
Q: How many guns do you own?
A: More than I need, not as many as I'd like
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Companies come and go. While they have been around a long time, I do not see anything unique they bring that would be missed in the current market. Yes it is debt restructure, but Remington needs to up their game to develop a quality product. I would MAYBE recommend an 870 to someone, but after that, even the 700 series is outmatched by others.
I think they have an opportunity with Para re-launch/re-brand but it will require a lot of work AND its a niche market. They need to up their game in the wide market of handguns, shotguns AND rifles--they have 0 competitive products right now (again except for the 870, maybe the versa max, I'm a little jaded on that as mine blew up, full disclosure). I'd look at a Rem 700 rifle on reputation alone and that is fading fast.
And for full disclosure, I own no less than 5 Remington firearms. 3 shotguns, 3 rifles (2 of them are being held for a youth-- from his grandfather) IIRC--all of which run solid except that versa max incident. Not so coincidently, it was the last one bought....(2015).
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1 hour ago, rowdyb said:
Who the heck would make a 5" barreled, 45 oz, metal framed, striker fired gun, with the aftermarket support for great triggers and sights?
That's the sad part. Today everything is marketed to the 'tactical' crowd meaning lighter and smaller (Just look at the trends in product release).
Glock/S&W/Walther/Colt could make a KILLING (no pun intended) in the shooting world. (notice COULD)
Kinda like STI in limited. (Para could have but dropped ball). Hell even STI is going Tacticool.
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1 hour ago, yigal said:
probably this tool in cz factory they use to install mine safety.
I've learned that lesson the hard way! Fortunately it was not a firearm (I f up in other more creative means).
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If I need to fit something like a CZ Safety, what are the proper tools to use.
I know very little of files/sanding/etc.
For instance I needed to take something from .085 inches to 0.80 inches (measured with caliper) in width. Sanding job or file/stone?
And then the follow up which type of sand paper/file/stone...
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what kind of file does one use? I was sanding and it was not working at all.
I'll be honest, I feel like I have 10 thumbs every time I work on a pistol.
QuoteOther spring as in the spring for safety detent on left side? No need to touch that, it can stay.
There's no other spring in sear cage assembly other than sear spring.
I thought there was a lifter spring in the cage assembly as well (at least their was in the video I was watching).
That sear spring was a major PITA, would not stay up out of the groove and then eventualy the tail broke. Gun still functions, but man it give me willies about mucking with it again.
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yup. It looks like enough is left for the gun to function, but it does need to be replaced.
Moron question--i can just slide the sear pin out part way to replace the sear spring--no need for total disassembly (sorry the other spring looks like a PITA to get in and given my track records...)
$2.00 is a small learning experience.
And I hate that sear spring...
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Thanks,I did get it in--its a bit tight but then again, i rarely use the safety (which is why I wanted the wide safety to start with)
Still worried about the sear cage spring
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So I tried to get a tac sport safety on my shadow 2. Turns out the tac sport safety was too wide be about 5 thousanths and my best efforts to sand had no effect.
ANyway putting the S2 back together and for the life of me I cannot get the right hand safety in without disloding the right safety detent. And then of course, the sear cage won;t go in.
To top it all off the sear cage spring broke and no longer long enough to hold the safety in place. (Just sigh--even though the safety stays put)
I went over Prof Atlas pics, and for the life on me cannot figure out how to get the right hand safety+detent together correctly.
I have the detent in like this picture: but no matter how I shimmy in the safety either the front or the back of the detent is forced out of flush with the slot it sits in...
I finally gave up and just assembled the stupid thing so my right safety is out 2mm
Very Frustrated that once again my attempts to do basic gunsmith end in epic failure.
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So the press is on its way (650) plus Lee Classic Cast because I want to do some rifle (and brownells had free shipping).
For starting out what is a good set of powders to begin with? Will be primarily loading for 40 (lim major for an STI), but may dabble in 9 and 45 along with 308. I read up and people say to go whole hog on powders to avoid hazmat fees, but I am a bit uncomfortable with that as I have no clue which powders will be my 'go-to' in the long run.
Starting with 9/40 or 40/45 is there a powder that works well for both? 9mm would prob be behind 147s or similar and beginning I was thinking 180gr in 40s. Is there any bullet mfg to avoid? (It seems like everyone has their favs).
Same thing for stocking up on primers?
Basically before you go on bulk buys, how did you find what you liked?
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My goal is 3-gun, but normally I guess we are doing trap (I don't know the difference between clays and trap tbh--basically we have throwers at the public range that throw a target straight away from you).
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I need to remember this. I get so frustrated by little mistakes, coming in last, blowing a stage--its even stopped me from going shooting sometimes. And the worst day shooting is better than the best day at home depressed.
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Wolf Variable 14#
Runs like a champ in my Govt Colt.
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Thought I would put this here for the others than are scared too.
Shooting a shotgun is hard as hell. What are the resources for an experienced shooter, but beginning shotgunner available around the web as well as what sort of instruction is good.
Problem: Beginner Classes cover gun safety/handling. While there is an importance for safety I also am quite familiar with gun handling from both Rifle/Handgun. Is a beginner shotgun course still the place to start.
Problem 2: I can go to the range with target throwers, but I have no idea if thats a 'hard' shot, easy shot etc.? What are the basic skills needed to develop to a point of self-diagnoses. For instance I can do shots at 15/25 yards in handgun and work on accuracy, grouping etc. I started at 7 and worked out. Same thing for rifle. Start at 50, move back. Where to start for my trusty smoothbore?
Problem 3: That SOB son of mine is a natural and just said, "I aim in that direction" . I hate him so very much right now.
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Did contact Rem for repair. Apparently the 2013 is 'too old' for warranty (I bought it in early 2014) according to CS rep, but they are going to take a look at it and provided a shipping label.
Will have my fingers crossed.
STI officially no-more
in 1911-style Pistols
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This is the well adjusted adult line of thinking I aspire to have.