BT Sniper

Thanks Guys. I initiatlly searched google for some pics unsuccesfully, then found some good videos on the subject on you tube. I'll give it some practice and see how things turn out. BT

I have a 40 S&W EAA Elite limited with all the tricks on it short of a scope and want to learn to shoot it well and possibly compete. I haven't shot it yeat, I have enjoyed severial hundred rounds threw my small frame Witness. Maybe a silly question but I want to learn to hold it correctly the first time, so how exactly do you hold your EAA Elite Limited regarding your off/weak hand index finger and strong hand thumb? Do you extend your weak hand index finger straight and grip it around the frount of the square trigger guard or do you wrap it aound your grip? Second question, where do you place your strong hand thumb position in regard to the oversized safty lever? Do you place it on top of, or below the safty lever while shooting? Is any one way supposed to be better then the other or is it all personal prefrence? What do the experts say? Last question, is there any shooting to be had in NW Oregon area? Thanks BT

Thanks guys. I'll look into any NW shooting I can find, OR. WA. ID. etc. Send me a PM on shooting the Henning trigger, if I make it to the same shoot, no problem letting you unload a mag. BT

After doing a bit of research, mainly on this sight I figured a EAA Limited Elite would/should be the last and only gun I need to buy for pistol compition. Just found what I think is a good deal on a like new EAA 40 S&W Elite Limited with two extra mags and 2 mag pouchs, custom work from Henning with new trigger and fiber optic frount sight as well as a couple other improvments in trigger area. Added it up to about $1600 worth of goods at new gun price, I picked it up for $1k shipped. Seemed like a pretty good deal. I think it will be all I need. Yep I allready got the steel small frame full size for IPDA and now this limited should be all I need for everything else. Now anyone know some good shooting spots in the NorthWest with fun compitions? BT

Little more thought in the process..... I can use my EAA steel 40S&W already for IDPA so I got that covered, which gun should I get for shooting USPSA or IPSC if I wanted to compete some day? BT

This looks fun. Only one question I can't seem to find the answer to, how many shots per CO2 cartridge? Thanks BT p.s. I do see in post #9 estamate of 100-150 shots per cartridge, is this what you guys are seeing? I saw a youtube that some guy staited he wasn't getting more then 2 mags worth (less then 36 rounds!!!)????

I'm going to get another EAA 40 S&W and curious which one I should get. I picked up 4 of the Mec-Gar 40LF mags and found out the EAA 40 I have now is a small frame so rather then return the mags I might as well get a new gun to fit the mags I am considering the 40 S&W Match. Seems like a great all around pistol. Some day I might want to shoot IDPA or other compitions. I'm not concerned with being competitive so much as I am looking for a EAA 40 that will be legal to shoot in any and all of the comps. I see the new Match with the accessory mount wieghs in at 33oz and there is a weight limit of 32oz in IDPA correct? Probably just a limit on a certain class rating? Should I be looking at one of the Limited pistols? Seems like the limited is only about $200 in addition to the cost of the match. Will the mags I got work in the limited? Is the sights that much better on the limited vs. the match? Accuracy? etc? Of course the limited is heavier so is that a different class for IDPA? Is the limited better suited for USPSA or IPSC comps? I am not as fimilar as I would like to be with the pistol shooting compition world but I want an EAA 40S&W that I can shoot in any or all of them. Any recomendations or comments Thanks BT

When people start realizing you make bullets and are willing to trade for them you have them coming to you with brass by the gallon. Even lead too. Been busy as usual and not much time to shoot here in the snow but still making bullets and offering the dies to do so also. Do check out ammobrasstrader there Sarge as usually some pretty good deals can be found on brass. I have traded some of my better 44 cal bullets up words of 20-1 in brass to bullets with people happy to do so. Great way to use up scrap brass. As for annealing, testing may still be out as to wether it is actually needed with these 40 cals. Yes you can add probably 45 minutes I suppose maybe less per thousand. I use a stainless steel colender in a gutted BBQ with probably 2-300 at a time for about 5-10 minutes a batch. Good shooting, BT

No prob I can take it. You guys have quite the demographic here as I broused the welcome aboard section and saw guys from all over the world here. Great way to learn a bit more about this hobby/sport. As for the "art" of making your own it is certainly fun to at least see what can be done with a bit of time and imagination. I've only been at it a couple years. For those interested check out the link of my latest projects. http://s636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/BTSniper/ couple of teaser pics. a 240 grain 44 cal xtp look a like from 40 S&W brass here is a couple 40 cals from copper tubing, probably around 150 and 170 grains BT

Yep, terminology has never been my strong point, emptied the "magizine". Neither is spelling, that is probably why I became a pilot, we didn't need to know how to spell. As for the core it is cast from a simple Lee 6 cavity 125 grain .356 bullet mold. The dies are CH-4d and are very affordable compaired to corbin and others. Any caliber set can be had for under $150, as for their quality in dies well....I spent a couple years tinkering and came up with better components to make their die work much better. You guys may be correct in the time vs. ammount of bullets needed for real competitive shooters but there is savings to be had I'm sure for those with the time. Maybe not in the common 9mm or 40 calibers where bulk rates are avialble but anything is possible. I do know it is possible to make these bullets pretty quickly in production form. I know a guy here that is able to crank out 20 per minute. Ofcourse there is a bit of time involved casting the cores and annealing the brass but again for those with a lot of time and little money it may just allow a few more shooters to enjoy a bit more shooting then otherwise may be possible. Well thanks for the compliments and not razing me to much, competitive shooting might not be the best demographic for "growing your own" but I certainly look foward to doing a bit more shooting in this sport no matter what bullet hits the target. BT

Thanks SLM, Already looked into the useful info here and think I may be trying some new powders in the 40S&W. As for the making your own, ya it's a hobby. People get into it as much or as little as they like. Not trying to make any sales here or convert the mases. Last time the idea of a using a 9mm for a bullet came up on this board it was not looked upon in the best of light. I just wanted to show that it can be done safely and effectivly. Not to many people out there dedicated to this sort of thing but you never know. Just how much does 10-50k worth of bullets cost? I know I could look it up, MG offers pretty good bulk price that I have seen. I would imagine for those of you really serious about this sport you use new brass to load with? Ya new brass is expensive. Well thinking about it a bit finding Ks and Ks of brass is farely easy but dang that is a lot of lead! When the EPA has their way with us it will be hard to come by but some out there have the connections. Living out here in the west it is allready difficult to come by. Save it while you can I guess. Don't worry there SLM 9mms are easy to come by. But when I am good I can find the stuff that no one wants to reload, berdan primed and the stuff shot out of the fluted chambers, MP-5s is it? I'll have to look that one up. Had a guy send me 10 gallons of the stuff. Don't think anyone will be missing any of that. Good shooting, BT

Greatings, Looks like quite the sight with quite the range of members. I hope to gain a lot of knowledge on competitive shooting and this looks like just the sight. I shot my first IDPA shoot last month out here in NW Oregon. Had a pretty good time. I did not try to rush and figured I would try for accuracy. I wound up suprising myself that I was able to compete at the speed I did. Had about 20 shooters and I finished middle of the pack with lots of room for improvment but what I was really happy with was I only finshed 8 points down for the match. Had a total of 60 scored shots for the match as I remember and I fired only 5 more then needed as the last target of the match was a long one and I just emptied the clip. What made this even more rewarding was the fact I shot the entire match with 40 cal bullets I made myself from 9mm brass. Now this is not new swaging bullets from fired brass, a few of you here may even make your own and I know others here have even seen my work. Thought I might post a few pics of these 185 grain 40 cal bullets. For the match I shot these bullets from a full size EAA witness 40 S&W loaded to 950 fps with a good load of W-231. These bullets are formed in dies under a good deal of pressure same way a commercial bullet is formed. The brass case and lead core is easily manipulated by just the pressure applied by a standard reloading press. As you can see the fired bullet enguaged all the lands and groves as it should have being that the formed bullet measured .400 Here is some recovered bullets from wet newspaper hit at about 950 FPS. Retained all their weight. In my development I was trying to duplicat a Hornady critical defence bullet. Turned out pretty close I think. Loaded 40 S&W Accuracy proved to be good enough for casual compition and maybe I'll be able to improve my scores by speeding up a bit or droping a few pounds for those of you that saw the video. Here is some targets I shot with a HyPoint 4095 at 35 yrds of hand. Wasn't really trying for accuracy but again these bullets supprised me. Certainly has been a lot of fun this hobby of DIY bullts. I bought the dies just before the turn in our government and the begining of the ammo shortages. Though I don't shot as much as I would like it was sure nice to now I could make as many bullets as I could ever need. I welcome anyone interested to give it a try. If you can reload you can make your own. Few of you allready do. Good shooting, BT