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I have the same issue and with over 3,000 posts none seem to be available.
I can't find the threads I have responded to.
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Still happening. Safari user here.
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The article (most any article) is only as Un-biased as the author.
I wrote it and tried to show (pretty sure I had photos and links to videos as well with in it) physically how the steel cases behave.
FM has said no to reloading as does CCI and their aluminum cases.
YES! I am sponsored by Freedom, but I have no obligation to hold back on my findings. If they did...I'd cut ties ASAP.
If you watch my Out of Box videos...you would notice that FM ammo is NOT always the most accurate of the brands
tested. FM has not said Boo to me about that.
I call it like I see it and try to show how I came to any conclusion drawn.
If you still want to believe I am biased enough to lie...you are wrong.
"you" is generic referring to anyone who feels the above applies to them.
This wasn't a personal attack at all, and not even a hint that the author would deliberately "lie". But bias shows its head in many ways, often unconsciously, and one of the ways to counter it is to openly reveal the affiliations.
It's not enough to say "I'm not trying to please my sponsor" here on BE; the affiliation needs to be clearly stated in the articles (both of them). Then the readers can weigh that info in as well and decide how to proceed. I first thought this was an article was a personal project by a nonaffiliated shooting enthusiast (haven't read the column before), and I'll bet a lot of readers come to the same conclusion, without a disclaimer (which would be a fair thing to have in the article).
Regarding the testing, there is much that could be said, but Pat put time in on this and comments can wait. What I'd like to know, as a regular competitor and owner of several nice guns with top components, is how this stuff treats the gun over time and through lots of rounds. When somebody shoots say 5000-10,000 rounds through a quality 1911-style gun, what does the gun look like, from a metallurgical standpoint? Feed ramp, chamber, extractor, ejector, breech face (especially the side opposite the extractor) take a pounding during fast cycling (.06-.10 second). As noted, steel is less malleable (i.e., harder) than brass, and the cases pound against the steel parts of the gun. Maybe that's why they've usually used brass for ammo.
I'd also like to know what happens when these plated steel cases wear. Not wear as in a relatively few rounds fired in a test, but wear as in reload and fire a significant number of cases 5 or 8 times each, perhaps as part of the 5-10k test mentioned above.
The same testing would apply to the loading equipment, for the same reasons. That equipment is valuable and needs to be treated in a manner that won't prematurely wear it.
Maybe they're wonderful after all. But until the long-term test results come in, from reliable sources (perhaps an independent test lab or our own BE members), I'm not willing to trust my guns to this particular type of ammo. Magnet it is.
I am sorry "lie" was too strong a word. I have a reputation of honesty and got wound up thinking it was being diminished.
So you all know...Ammo Guru IS owned and operated by Freedom Munitions. Articles are submitted by FM assisted shooters.
Most of the dozens of articles I have written for Front Sight, Shooting Illustrated, Shooting USA, 3-Gun Nation have been about equipment, tips and techniques.
What affiliations should be proffered up for those articles? How about the hundreds of article written and read by millions of enthusiasts who's authors are not here
on BE giving members full access to cross examine?
Publications live by advertising dollars and some must "fiddle for their supper". I know first hand as I have turned down good paying work
because I returned a particular gun was not up to standards and yet another gun writer picked up the task and the cash. That companies ad dollars continued.
Back to the cases....I would love to see (hell I would love to have the time) to do exactly what you said. An accelerated "long term" study of the effects
on these steel cases on our gear.
No matter ones take on FM brass washed steel cases, I only and honesty tried to provide some first hand info with testing methods to my fellow shooting friends.
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The article (most any article) is only as Un-biased as the author.
I wrote it and tried to show (pretty sure I had photos and links to videos as well with in it) physically how the steel cases behave.
FM has said no to reloading as does CCI and their aluminum cases.
YES! I am sponsored by Freedom, but I have no obligation to hold back on my findings. If they did...I'd cut ties ASAP.
If you watch my Out of Box videos...you would notice that FM ammo is NOT always the most accurate of the brands
tested. FM has not said Boo to me about that.
I call it like I see it and try to show how I came to any conclusion drawn.
If you still want to believe I am biased enough to lie...you are wrong.
"you" is generic referring to anyone who feels the above applies to them.
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Shot my way into Master as a service rifle competitor without the need for annealing. I have even found even less of a need as a 3gunner and for plinking? Hell no.
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Not sure what you are driving at Sarge, but I have been told on numerous occasions to lower the "flesch kincaid" reading level a notch or two. Downplay knowledge? Hard to know where the reader is at, so I need to cover some background to
get those less informed up to the level of our average forum member.
I don't know who reads my stuff (I assume not very many) but I work to offer info the best I can.
I am a power plant operator not a full time shooter nor journalist. Experience? Like many guys on this
forum and have been reloading and shooting for better than 40 years and competing since 1987.
Perhaps not enough experience or knowledge to make it worth while for some, but again, I try to give those
who take the time to read my best effort.
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It's all about Money,and I bet that steel is way cheaper
I bet you are right. Couple that with the fact that better than 50% of ammo consumers do not reload.
Lower cost sales to those who don't reload...just like CCI Blazer Aluminum.
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Please consider reading this.
http://ammoguru.com/pats-notes-from-the-field-whats-the-deal-with-steel-ammo/
The condensed version.
These cases hold the same amount of water. (powder volume is equal to all other brass cases)
These cases do not harm your guns. (extraction forces are not greater)
These cases will load and shoot just like brass. (this is NOT officially ok with FM)
I don't blindly say crap. I test in as scientific manner as I can to bring facts to the fore.
You are welcome to hate on these cases. I just ask that you do knowing the facts.
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Not out yet.
I have the 1.5 to 8 and I love it....it is my test mule for ammo and gun reviews.
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As long as the gun returns to the point it was before you pulled/pressed the trigger, it is nothing. It doesn't matter what happens after the shot, what matters is the next shot...if the sights are aligned, pull/press the trigger.
This should be the focus.
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My Vista short will be slowly modified with scope mount changes, recoil springs and popple holes to see what
kind of performance can be gained without the need for one more port on the comp.
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Right.
I don't know.
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They unfortunately are not tube friendly. The barrel is held on with a stud at the end of the tube.
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The FIX in In!
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What an awesome old revolver that I always admired but know I will never own, so I totally enjoyed the vid and lived vicariously for a few minutes, it was thoroughly entertaining! Thanks and best wishes to your family.
Entertaining...thanks! I have accomplished my goal. Shooting is fun!
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Factory ammo stats. 16" Lone Wolf G9 Carbine vs. SPS 2011pistol 5"
Blazer 115: Carbine 1307fps Pistol 1161fps
Freedom Munitions 115 American Steel: Carbine 1333fps Pistol 1170fps
Freedom Munitions 124 Super Match: Carbine 1263fps Pistol 1088fps
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There are so many ways to complicate what we do. At its essence its always going to be find target, point gun at target, keep gun still until bullet has left the barrel, repeat. I'm a big believer in doing this in the simplest way possible. I don't usually like to see people make a change in technique based on treating the symptom of the problem. For example, if someone has a tendency to pull shots right when shooting left hand only, the last thing I want this person to do is start aiming left and planning on yanking it. The main reason for this is I never want someone to set themselves up to where if they execute the shot correctly they are going to miss.
In the same vein of treating the symptom, instead of using different finger positions as a crutch for poor trigger manipulation I'd rather see you adopt your "fast" trigger finger placement as default and figure out why you have problems shooting accurately with it. Then correct that problem. I say adopt your fast position because it tends to be easier to learn control than speed. In reality, with enough work you could likely use either trigger finger position and be fast and accurate with it.
Yes, yes and yes!
"We" find faults with things when it is generally a mask for faulty fundamentals.
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Very cool! Now you need to find a Webley/Fosbery!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley%E2%80%93Fosbery_Automatic_Revolver
I know and want, but money to buy I have not.
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When I was a kid (shooting buffalo out my living room window),
I could buy these old Webleys for about $15
Not quite at that level (I am 56) but I fully remember wooden barrels with SMLE's stuffed in them!
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Really enjoyed watching that, shows that it's really the shooter and not just the equipment. I have always wanted one of those so I could channel my inner Winston Churchill. Looks like you could mill a square notch in the rear sight, chamfer the cylinders and put a fiber optic on the front pinned sight.
Best wishes for your wife.
Thank you very much! If I get ahold of another I will consider those options!
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I will assemble a follow-up video...but I was WRONG on the over insertion cause.
Glock grip frames have a "stop block" moulded in.
I have built a fix that I will share soon.
Sorry for the misinformation...I assumed it would work more like a standard AR
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The buttstock with interchange with the M1 only. I have fitted the M2 "comfortec" stock but it is not pretty.
What parts do you want to add you the M3? I don't know what a rail or arail system is.
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This forum is very popular for good reason! But the new changes have eliminated the old "My Content" button.
I would like to follow up to threads that I am involved in, but damn I can't find them.
What do I need to do?