Jeff P

I thought plated bullets should not go that fast or the plating sheers off. I like the Glock because it is light and easy to move. Having to find the dot every shot makes me more accurate. If I do not find the dot, it is a miss. When I find it, it is an aimed shot. Fun, cheap, shoot almost all "A"'s, but cannot hose the targets. When I had a pickup stage with 3 mandatory reloads, it was one fast gun. Like picking my car keys off the table.

I have just started shooting open glock 17 and, at 15 yards, I have .5 splits. there is nothing in the way of flatness. I need to completely re-acquire my sight for the second shot on the target. I lose the dot and have to re-acquire it.

I have found that True Bore makes a bull barrel like the one in the picture, even a bull barrel machined together in one piece with the steel comp. The advantage of this design is that when the slide locks, the barrel and comp are locked in place for great accuracy. This barrel takes precise gunsmithing. I suppose many people do not want to spend $3,500 for a race gun. One very lucky shooter here.

Jimjoey: I believe you. I put golf lead weights on my aluminum comp G17 and the gun did not respond well at all. Fortunatly the weights fell off. Now I have ordered a tungsten guide rod wit captured spring. Pevious to my lone wolf barrel, I had a fat steel rod with OEM barrel which helped recoil very well, but it was too thick for the longer spring which came from Jaeger open kit. The Jaeger kit cannot be beat for reliablility, so I will have to see what this captured spring will do. I will not sacrifice reliability for faster splits.

I don't know why I should remove the word "tap" from my vocabulary. This big ton fun is so soft and the trigger has no pre-travel at all and the release is sharp. So I literally tap the trigger lightly to get off 2 rounds. The muzzle does not move. I do not need any fancy Glock trick release-0f-cruciform-only kind of squeeze.

The 2 port compensator has scoops in the holes and is supported by the guide rod which is attached to it. The barrel is cone-shaped with the fat part entering the compensator so it locks into the Caspian slide when the slide closes. They do not seem to make them like that anymore. It was hand-fit by a member of this forum who no longer does gunsmithing. I think it belongs in the Smithstonian, as a work of art.

I searched but could not even find a steel compensator for a Glock being sold by anyone.

I have 7.9 gr HS-6 with 124 FMJ MG which blows gas (no flames unfortunately). But my question remains. Does this gas through the compensator marketing ploy really male a predictable bounce, or is the muzzle just jumping around willy nilly. At this point, I think the new lightweight aluminum comps are mostly marketing hype for cheaper to make products. Yes, the gas pushes the muzzle; but is it a chaotic flight pattern? The unidentified heavy steel comp just moves up and down, but I am dragging an anchor around.

Can anyone identify the compensator on my old McCormick 38super? I have a new build of an open Glock 17 in major 9, everything is lightweight. The comp is light aluminum. I almost never lose the dot on recoil with my 17 year old heavyweight. With the light Glock, I have to wait for the dot for my second shot unless I get lucky. Heavy is slow to draw and move, but as fast on shots as I can squeeze the trigger. I am told that it is the new gassy powders that explain the changes over the years, but I am not yet convinced that the newer is better than the older, and, being the curmudgeon that I am, tend to believe "newer" is not better, just cheaper to make.

I had the same exact figures with my Glock 17. Major at 7.7 HS-6. some failures to cycle below 7.5 with a 12# recoil spring. 124 JHP Montana Gold. OAL 1.165. Lone Wolf barrel. Seems too easy, doesn't it?

Is it possible to get off the second shot before the gun has moved off target? Center the dot and tap 2x with just the first sight of the dot? Or must the gun recoil first, then regain the dot before the second. Sometimes it feels as though I am accomplishing the former when I use one piece of tape for the 2 holes and I never refound the dot for the second tap.

Used Loctite. So far so good.

I started this thread so I will give my results. Apparently I am reinveting the wheel. Nonetheless, as I re-enter the sport, I hear of shooters no longer practicing because the ammo is too expensive since the great recession. With 7.7 gr of HS-6 my G 17 Lone Wolf 5 inch barrel with comp makes a PF of 167 at avg velocity of 1,343 FPS with a 124 Montana Gold FMJ OAL 1.165 (same as factory ammo). My once-used brass shows zero signs of pressure. No pressure signs on the primers. The gun shoots flatter. It sounds a little louder than factory ammo but I could probably not tell the difference between factory and major if I smixed the ammo. Glock tells me the g17 was designed for combat NATO rounds fired at full automatic mode. NATO rounds are unspecified, and up to the country making the round. NATO rounds are +p++ and Glock is fine with that. I have found no instance of a G17 going kb. Correct me if I am wrong. The main kb problems appear with the other Glock models. These days, I find it not surprising that newer products are not as good as older products.

I took my unused Glock 17 and made it into a backup/practice gun because I get free brass nearly every time I practice. Of course, I reload. I do not want to pay for the brass to practice with my STI 38 super. This brass is expensive.