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I'm looking to pick up a del-ton rifle kit and had a question on the barrel options. I'm fairly new to the AR world and still trying to understand all the parts and pieces. I have 4 barrel options and I don't know enough about the differences to know which would be best for 3-gun (local matches out to 200 yards).
20" chrome molly
20" chrome lined
20" Government Profile
20" Lightweight
Any input would be appreciated.
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Anybody score those 24" non-ported 930 barrels form Mossberg yet. I got cash burning a hole in my pocket. How about it Mr. Hill.
Why don't you just get the 28" you have cut and threaded for chokes? I finally tracked down a 28" barrel and sent it off to be cut down to 22", threaded for chokes, new FO sight, lengthen and polish forcing cone and return shipping for $95.
Who did that for you?
Pat
Michael Orlen, He's a gunsmith on another message board
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Anybody score those 24" non-ported 930 barrels form Mossberg yet. I got cash burning a hole in my pocket. How about it Mr. Hill.
Why don't you just get the 28" you have cut and threaded for chokes? I finally tracked down a 28" barrel and sent it off to be cut down to 22", threaded for chokes, new FO sight, lengthen and polish forcing cone and return shipping for $95.
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just for reference... 3.2 of VV320 under a BBI 147 puts me at around 133pf and 900fps.
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m24shooter - what's your impressions of the ETA safety vs the Vang?
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guessed the retail price a few days ago on one of their FB posts and won a free R.A.M
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I can't seem to find them on apex website.
Nate
I don't think they will be on the website until midnight (pacific time) 11/1
Mine's already on the way...
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I can't drop the slide with the lever on mine...it takes an insane amount of force to get it to drop. Quicker for me to slingshot it. With my Glock I could hit the slide release with my thumb as I got back on target but it's a no go with the M&P.
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I just got a Mossberg Waterfowl 12 guage 28" barrel and it is ported. Should have read the rules first. Tactical iron/ limited USPSA non-ported - open ported.
I plan on shooting production/tactical irons can you all recomend a non-ported 24/26" barrel with interchangeable chokes.
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I'll take the 28" barrel off your hands... I also have the 18.5 non-ported if you want to go that way
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Check out my data from awhile back
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i just put a Burwell rear on my 9L, FO front to follow
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I recently bought a used M&P that came with grip tape applied to the front strap area only. It appears to be factory cut and specific for the M&P. I want to buy another set for PRO I just bought. Anyone know who sells the M&P front strap only grip tape?
Thanks
We have the Xtreme Grips laser cut grip tape in stock.
I have some of the Xtreme grips on mine and really like it. The only problem I have is the piece on the grip insert doesn't stay in place and I had to take it off. The front strap hasn't moved at all though.
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I did some accuracy on the indoor range but I'm a novice shooter, just got the M&P a month ago and put the APEX trigger in it today so I'm not sure my results are a good reflection of the loads. I will say that my groups were tighter with the 147gr than the 130gr and a 124gr Zero FMJ load I had, but all three were around 2" w/5shots at 15yards.
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Time - 9am
Temp - 65
Sky - cloudy
Distance to Chrono - 10'
Pistol - M&P9L
Shorts - Camo
Shirt - Chuck Norris Tee
Glasses - Rudy Project Rydon
Bullet - 130gr BBI and 147gr BBI
Brass - Winchester
Primer - CCI
Powder - VVN320
OAL 1.125
130gr BBI & 3.7gr N320
FPS -- PF
1037 -- 134.810
1036 -- 134.680
1025 -- 133.250
1032 -- 134.160
1036 -- 134.680
1028 -- 133.640
1036 -- 134.680
1043 -- 135.590
1043 -- 135.590
1025 -- 133.250
Average --1034.1 -- 134.433
ES -- 18
SD -- 6.204
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FPS -- PF
1035 -- 134.550
1029 -- 133.770
1026 -- 133.380
1044 -- 135.720
1043 -- 135.590
1031 -- 134.030
1041 -- 135.330
1028 -- 133.640
1029 -- 133.770
1040 -- 135.200
Average -- 1034.6 -- 134.498
ES -- 18
SD -- 6.499
147gr BBI & 3.2gr N320
FPS -- PF
901 -- 132.447
906 -- 133.182
900 -- 132.300
895 -- 131.565
896 -- 131.712
917 -- 134.799
893 -- 131.271
905 -- 133.035
908 -- 133.476
898 -- 132.006
Average -- 901.9 -- 132.579
ES -- 19
SD -- 6.876
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FPS -- PF
906 -- 133.182
903 -- 132.741
893 -- 131.271
913 -- 134.211
903 -- 132.741
900 -- 132.300
897 -- 131.859
907 -- 133.329
903 -- 132.741
914 -- 134.358
Average -- 903.9 -- 132.873
ES -- 21
SD -- 6.187
When I shot outdoors I did notice more smoke than factory ammo but it had just stopped raining and was very humid. I shot indoors after the chrono session and didn't really notice any more smoke than normal.
**for informational purposes only...use at your own risk**
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thanks for the replies
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what would you consider a good break?
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heavy barrel, heavy chrome lined or lightweight barrel...which is better suited for a 16" or 20" for 3-gun? Local matches are targets out to 200 yards max.
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I'm looking at getting an entry level AR for local 3-gun matches. I ran across a Delton in a local shop and found some good reviews online. I'm new to the world of ARs and I've been reading all I can about what is good and what isn't. On the Delton website they have a rifle kit for $800, that based on my limited knowledge seems pretty good. Does this look like a good entry level setup? I want something that is of good quality and affordable (<1000).
20" DTI 1X9 Light Weight Barrel (Chrome Moly) -- they do offer a chrome lined, no stainless
Standard Gas Tube
Vented FF Tube
Standard Bolt & Carrier -- they offer a chrome bolt & carrier
Magpul Commercial CTR Buttstock - Black
A2 Grip - Black
Phantom Aggressive End Comp/Brake
Single Rail Gas Block
Lower Parts Kit with JP Adjustable Trigger
Standard Charging Handle with Badger Tac Latch
Flat Top Upper with M4 Feed Ramps
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Did some searches and didn't come up with much. Just looking for some opinions on N320 with BBIs.
I'm looking for a load for a M&P9L, 130gr or 147gr BBI with N320. I currently load 124gr Zero FMJs and haven't loaded a poly coated or lead bullet before but a lot of people seem to like BBIs and the price is right.
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I hadn't started changing the OAL on my load yet. i actually just picked up a M&P 9L and I want to see how it runs with that then try different OAL to try and dial it in. How does a change to the OAL impact accuracy (I'm new to reloading)?
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I got 2 from here Greg Cote LLC. They had quick shipping.
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I'm looking to put a burwell rear sight on and wanted to know what everyone is running for the front sight height? I've been digging through the numerous posts about sights for the pro and 9L but didn't see anyone who posted a setup for the burwell and FO front. I've seen mention of .305 for the Dawson adjustable rears.
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I got an email back from mesa tactical today.
"If the chicago screws are not too tight (ie, squeezing the receiver), this may be a result of the shafts of the screws not being a large enough diameter. This is a known problem and we are dealing with it by making new fasteners with a greater diameter. These should be completed in a week or so and we would be happy to send you replacements. Please give us a call in a week or so."
I tightened the screws finger tight as the directions stated, although the directions also said the screws were sized so they can be tightened without squeezing the action. I asked them to send me the replacement screws when they become available and I'll give it a try. Right now I have a $60 paperweight.
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from what I can tell the Chrome Molly and chrome lined are heavy barrel profiles.
I'm leaning towards a government profile to save on weight and I'll be pairing it with a vented free float tube.
The lightweight would be the lightest but I've read that they heat up quick and can have problems. I have no real world experience to know if that is correct or would be a real problem in a match.