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Looking forward to it.

Done! Super excited to shoot this match again.

Why in the 3G Regional Series is a pistol off safe a Match DQ but on the Pro Series it is a procedural penalty? Are non Pro guns more likely to go off? The same dump buckets are used at both events.

I thought the stages were really impressive. Use of all three guns on most of them and the target presentation was outstanding.

I am shooting on Saturday.

I had the factory Leupold mount on my prismatic and my POI would change right or left 6 to 8 inches everytime I shot the thing. I was so frustrated and was about to get rid of the optic and then finally asked someone what they had done to get their prismatc to hold zero. I was told to get the Laure mount for the pristmatic. I finally broke down and order the Larue mount and it has been POA/POI ever since. Now I love the optic.

I was sick and tired of reading all of these post about how great the Vortex Gen II w/ JM reticle scope is so I broke down and bought one. Zeroed it today at 200 and that was quick and easy. Love how small the illuminated dot is in the reticle. Glass was very clear. Will get to stretch its legs this Saturday at the NTXMG match. Hopefully we will be going out to 500 to see how this BDC works out. Current scope is the Swaro and I love it except for the size of the illuminated dot. I will report back after the match this Sat.

Drive up to Dallas for the North TX Multigun match. They are shooting Saturday and Sunday. Northtexasmultigun.com

Shot my Dynamic Resistance comp for the first time this weekend and it was very impressive. I took a Rolling Thunder off my 16" rifle and put on the DR. First thing I noticed was the weight savings. Not a decision maker for me but you can definately feel the difference. This comp was much easier on the ears than the RT. Muzzle movement/rise was very little with this comp. Not quite as effecient as my RT but better than my Cooly that was on this barrel before. Definately one to consider if you are in the market for a new comp and the price is very attractive also.

Loading speed and consistency Well, after a couple months of comparing the loading differences between the VM and M2, using the strong hand method of loading 2, quad loading, and traditional weakhand loading from a caddy, I can conclude the following based on my experience. Load 2 I am slightly faster and more consistant with the VM when loading 2 shell at a time. The VM seems to just suck the shells into the receiver. Having the extra 1/2 inch length and wider opening really makes a difference for this loading technique. Quad Here is where I was surprised. I can quad load with both guns equally at the same speed, which is between 2.9-3.0 secs for 8rds. However, I am much more consistant with the M2 when quad loading. I am pretty sure the difference is because of the raised fore-end on the VM. The second set of shells hit/rub on the fore-end and disrupts the shells in my hand and causes the fumble. I have cut down a lot of material on the fore-end of my VM but am still having some issues. Traditional weak hand The VM is much easier for me to load weak hand from a caddy. I fumble a lot less with the VM than the M2 when using this method. Once again, this is based off of my experience with two really awesome shotguns. Hopefully this might help someone considering between the two platforms. James

Reliablility Well, I wanted to get to at least 500 rounds through the VM before I considered mentioning reliability. I know this is not enough rounds to conclude anything about the reliabilty of this gun but as an update, I have had Zero malfunctions with any type of bird shot, which includes #8 shot at 1100fps and the cheap bulk pack Winchester rounds. I did have 1 malfunction out of 30 while shooting Fiocchi 1oz 1150fps slugs. As a comparision, when I first got my M2, which was before I sent it to Accurate Iron, I probably had 20 failures in the first 500 rounds. Almost all malfunctions were when I used light loads. James

Michael, you can shoot all three side by side and see which one you prefer. I will hopefully get to the range this Saturday if you are available.

Lightened bolt is not needed on the M2 for reliability. Just feed it ammo and shoot.

Feel and Handling This is a link to me shooting the VM in a match on 7/27/13. This gun recoils very little and it allows me to shoot on the move much easier than my M2. As you can see in the video, it has very little muzzle rise.

The M2 has XS Big Dot with rear dovetailed and the VM has 10/22 flip up rear and fiber optic front. The shots were taken from a bench using a sandbag as a rest in the front.

Slug Accuracy I finally got out to the range today and was able to do a side by side comparison between the M2 and VM with slugs. I only used the Fiocchi low recoil 1oz slugs because that is what I have always used in my M2. I shot groups at 50 yards and 100 yards with each shotgun. The first picture is a 5 shoot group at 50 with the VM. I also shot a second 3 shot group which is at 11 o'clock on the target. This picture below is with my M2 which shoots about 8-9" high and left at 50. 1 shot missed the target completely and then I had 2 high left. I corrected my POA and the last 2 found the center. This is a 3 shot group at 100 with the VM. This is a 3 shot group with the M2. It looks like I need to drift the rear sight on the VM slightly to the right and a lot to the right on the M2. Elevation at 100 was good on both. The main difference for me between the two was that the recoil on the VM was much less and a quick follow up shot on a miss would be much easier. As far as accuracy goes, I will let you decide by looking at the pics.

I will be hitting the range this weekend and will probably do the slug accuracy testing first. I will report back ASAP.

I am going to start a comparison topic between the two most popular 3G shotguns currently being used by most competitors, the Versa Max and the M2. My M2 was done by Mike at Accurate Iron and to say that I absolutely love it would be an understatement. I have several thousand flawless rounds through my M2 since Mike worked on it. I have had two total malfunctions that were due to a weak mag tube spring and the malfs came within 25 rounds of each other. I now make sure the spring length is 12" passed the tube and haven't had any malfunctions since. I recently received a new customized VM from Andy at 303 Arms. The quality of the workmanship looks top notch. I shot the gun for the first time this past weekend in a local match. I put 15 rounds through it before the match and then only about 35 rounds in the match. No malfunctions in the first 50 so I guess we are off to a good start. Initial impression of the VM is that the recoil is much less than the M2 and it does seem to load easier. Over the next few weeks and months, I will report back on comparing the two guns on the following criteria. 1. Reliability 2. Split times 3. Loading speed and consistency 4. Slug accuracy 5. Feel & handling Here are a couple of photos of the shotguns I will be comparing. Let me know if you have any suggestions for the comparison.

There are still some spots open for tomorrow night's North TX 3G match. The weather is going to be perfect. Come out and play if you are in the DFW area.

Headlamps do help with the front sight and also with taping targets in between shooters.

This match is going to be a blast. Look forward to seeing everyone next Sat night.

You can't go wrong with the Carbon Arms products for load 2 or quad loading.

Bingo! Nordic recommends 12-16" beyond the tube. Start at 14" to be safe.