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A lot of folks have been using .38 long colts cheerfully for a couple of decades. Gives you a little on .38 special on ejection and a little room in the case re margin of error on reloading/pressure

Seattle area is down to 2 regular shooters, but, they are damn good shooters. My friends and I let it go

They have the Model 64, .38 special, fixed sight revolver (for less money), also

Then I guess we won't talk about it

If he can keep up with me

Find grips you like and forgeddaboutit

Pick up a five inch 625 in .45 (acp or colt) That is what they were built for

Perfectly legal. You will need to block out the hue and cry and gnashing of teeth from those watching you for still having a hammer spur on your revolver.

JJ Jacksons "But its allright" closely followed by "I shot the Sheriff" (gun related)

Your opinion. It was a part of the division that caused greater complexity and risk vs reward math. Just because you didn't like it...doesn't mean it needed fixing. With standing reloads and Revolver shooters that didn't whine we once had a 90% revo squad that flew through stages so quickly compared to open and limited squads. Going to eight rounds made it into a more single stackesque game. So how many folks went over to single stack as opposed to going out an buying an eight shot? No consideration was given to the nature of the game changing because the folks that wanted the change so badly already had eight shots(Carmoney and friends) or were already eight shot programmed(Leatham and friends). We can't blame Jerry because he knew his days were over and just walked away. The rest of us didn't have 8 shots. I had .38's, .357's, .40's, 10mm's, and .45's ALL IN SIX SHOT. I am not whining about buying new equipment as I enjoy my 929's, but I think it was IGNORANT and FOOLISH to have made it a NECESSARY EVIL which killed the six shot minor. No MD ever has cared to do a six shot neutral COF so congratulations on writing the six shot revolver into the USPSA history books. I know a guy who made GM with six shot minor. There's no way to do that now. The only real challenge remaining is the trigger pull as opposed to a semi. Your revolver will not show you the love like an M&P9 if you pull it out and just go to a match without any practice after a few months. I am never going to let people forget who ruined Revolver. Same lines as when you pushed for the change. Those who oppose it are whiners they don't understand how this is a good thing...there will be a great surge in participation... There sure wasn't any surge in participation where I shoot. The Great Leap Forward! +1 I lost friends in the division who had their equipment obsoleted so stopped shooting. I stopped with them even though I owned 4 8 shots (so it was not an equipment issue with me. personally). But telling people to go and spend a grand to keep shooting the division was no way to grow it. Trying to tell people that their equipment was still competitive (especially at the local level) or to "take the challenge" was intellectually pathetic. Changing "the Nationals" to a minor. one day event appended to the Single Stack with limited courses stuck in PASA to benefit a certain select few made traveling to it unappetizing to me. People seem to be figuring that one out now. Just when you think you might want to come back, the Memphis Charity Classic, which as originally run would have been a great "Nationals", has become a series of one day same courses which now includes "single stack" There still has not been a true test of Revolver division. A stand alone, multi day, major match. Open it up with 2 classes: *8 shot minor and, if there are any of them left, 6 shot major/minor. Hell, add in an open class. If you want to expand participation, that is all that can be done.

Touche'

It wasn't. Fail to read the whole thread? I can't believe I am doing this. First this: I doubt it will come down much. I bought a ppq m2 and a navy when they first came out and they look like they are about the same price today. Walthers have always been a bit pricey.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk To which I said this: To which he said this: Wow really? In the mid 4's?I got rid of my ppq's over a year ago and kind of regreted selling them. Might be a good time to grab one! The market is over saturated with guns... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk To which I said this: Seems pretty clear to me. Not sure why the snarky comment was needed. Not necessary, I agree. The thread was about the particular firearm, though

wrong gun What's the "wrong gun"? I was responding to the comment about seeing PPQ's for mid to high $400s. I wasn't talking about the Q5 if that's what you're saying. It was. Fail to see the topic?

wrong gun

LGS is selling for $769. Seems a little high given MSRP?

Davidson's sent me a notice yesterday that they have them

Down to 2 regular (but excellent) shooters in mine (though I cannot honestly attribute that directly to the 8 shot rule). Soon to be 3. What has been lost in my area are the casual revolver shooters. The northwest had a tradition in the fall where somebody would call an unscheduled revolver shoot and people would just show up with their revolvers. There were a few people that would get a wild hair and just show up sometimes at any given match. That doesn't happen much anymore. What is the extent of your increase? Is it reflected nationally? I am all for it, if true. Do you attribute it to the fact that 8 shot is easier? Any theory has to why nationals participation tanked?

The intelligent choice. The further down the skill level you get, the more advantage the 8 has. When you get to me forget about it. Congratulations to TGO on his win and the perspicacity to not "accept the challenge" and shoot major 6. High major was Shannon Smith who is a Grand Master in every other class and finished 26th. Face it. The eight shot killed the 6 shot competitively in this division as predicted by many. I prefer to think of it as "the 8 shot saved the division." How? Has participation increased? Or does it just make it more interesting (and saved it) for you? I know people that have left. I had direct communication with Strader in which he said that the division was never in jeopardy

The intelligent choice. The further down the skill level you get, the more advantage the 8 has. When you get to me forget about it. Congratulations to TGO on his win and the perspicacity to not "accept the challenge" and shoot major 6. High major was Shannon Smith who is a Grand Master in every other class and finished 26th. Face it. The eight shot killed the 6 shot competitively in this division as predicted by many.

IMHO: A lot of people will give shooting major at a competitive revolver match lip service but no one with a brain wishing to achieve their best result will do so. Just saying. Major is essentially dead in revolver division. Your 625 was obsoleted a couple of years ago.

Thank you. looks promising

From my "knowledge" also but when you actually order the mag well the 41 is not listed. I contacted Carver to be sure and they did not respond so I did not order. Now, I will wait for the more compact mag well

Thank you for your efforts. I could not get Carver to respond to my inquiries. When I tried to order, the 41 did not come up and I asked if the 21 gen 4 would work. No response

Thanks for bailing me out. I didn't go to the Walther event fairly close to me. My ardor diminished when I heard the Randy Lee trigger wasn't going into it. The MSRP is high for what they have added imo unless you really want to go optics division