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Well I now have my 5.25 .40. As I would expect it shoots pretty dang good! It has a Springfield Custom Shop trigger job on it, currently breaking at a little over 3 lbs, a narrower front sight and a jumbo tungsten guide rod from Canyon Creek custom . All else is stock, although that is gonna change soon. I am investigating the use of the .40 for both limited and production class use in USPSA competitions.
I'm going to work up minor caliber loads for Production and will start by seeing how the lighter 155 grain bullets shoot. I'll modify the gun to the same specs as my 5.25 9mm guns. I will not make any permanent mods that would make it illegal for production class, but I am going to try mag wells and extra heavy guide rods, to aid in limited class, but not permanent alterations.
For limited I will explore changes to make it more competitive against the $2500.00 dollar high cap guns we now use. I'm guessing this will be no tough task, if my experience with the 9mm 5.25 is any indication.
My first range session was just to zero and while the gun functioned fine with the two factory loads I had on hand, both are way too hot for a serious competition load. All the proper speed .40 ammo I have is loaded too long to fit in the XDm magazine. This is necessary to get Single stack and high cap 1911's to work properly. I'll just crank down the powder charge, go to a standard OAL and work up from there.
Recoil when compared to a 43 OZ SS class 1911 was a little sharper, as you would expect since the gun only weighs 34.5 ounces, when weighed with empty loaded magazine. Even with that CC tungsten guide rod installed that's 1/2 a pound less!! when I get more weight on that frame with a big mag well, I'm going to be able to make a better comparison. As far as being able to shoot it fast, I had no trouble hitting the IDPA targets 0 zone at 25 yards at a medium to fast pace. I will do more performance tests when I have the proper load worked up.
Here's what I really think. For someone who loves the polymer pistols and wants a .40 for competition, this is going to be a no brainer. You get for the price, an accurate, reliable, durable piece of equipment. Going to be interesting to see where this goes?
Rob
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BTW, not trying to be a butt head, just wanted to weigh in with my experiences. I'm sure someone out there has an XDm that is faster than mine and another that is slower, but in the same gun, the same loads just don't seem to have all that great a difference from the .75 in barrel increase. Maybe the trick to test here would be to load up some of my old 9mm major loads and test in both guns, or maybe the hottest load I currently have which is the Winchester 127 grain ranger load popular with Law Enforcement. They might get bigger numbers than anything I normally come across.
Rob
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I have done extensive chronographing, with a wide variety of loads including bullet weights from 95 to 147 grains, powders as fast as clays and as slow as N350 in all barrel lengths of XDm's from 3.8 to even longer than 5.25. I have seen the greatest velocity of any of my XD/XDm's from an old 5" xd with a factory barrel. The slowest I have currently is a 4.5 and the 5.25 I am currently competing with. I have a BarSto barrel in my oldest XD tactical that is very fast and another in a 5.25 that is slower than the factory barrel it replaced.
While I agree the fastest is one of the longer ones, when loading specifically for USPSA competition I have seen no more than a 25-30 foot difference from the fastest to the slowest on average with the same loads when using 10 round tests between the guns of similar length. 5.25 is no more than 10-20 feet at the most faster than the 4.5's I have tested. This data is with rounds loaded with Titegroup and N320. While I agree a slower powder and lighter bullets would give a bigger difference, I doubt even that would be close to 10 percent. Factory ammo of any type I have tested has been no more than 50 FPS between the fastest and slowest of the before mentioned combinations. Just not enough powder being burned in the little 9x19 case.
Rob
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Wow, I'm not sure I'm on board with these "explosions and barrel lengths" theories? I might have different explanations that might contradict what has been written. I present this as my opinion only, otherwise one of you forum members who is a physicist and or rocket scientist will take me to task.
In my experience, some of what is written here I have noticed also. But, a round being fired in a handgun does not explode. If it did, the gun could not contain the 25,000 and up PSI. It does not explode only because the powder charge burns progressively albeit quickly and pushes the projectile progressively through the barrel. Lots of physics here, but the bullet moving also increases the contained space... wait. I'm doing it! sorry.
A longer sight radius will always have the appearance of increased muzzle flip when compared to a shorter one, all else being equal as the sight is further from you when the gun is pointed up at the same angle. Also there has to be more weight at the end of the slide regardless of the total weight of the slide when compared to a shorter one. That weight causes an increase in torque as the muzzle moves vertically caused by the resistance of the rearward movement of the gun by your hand which is lower than the line of force. So yes, the longer slide will have more flip, both in actual and visual measurement. I am willing to accept the greater muzzle rise to gain the sighting radius which allows me to aim more precisely and quickly.
Recoil is another matter. A lighter slide will as written change the feel and energy transmittal of the recoil impulse. It changes from sharp and fast for a light slide to slower and softer as weight increases. I prefer the slower push to the faster slap usually. I am willing to accept this in some conditions to have the balance and sight radius that I prefer. This is of course subjective as many shooters do not like the slow push.
The feel and flip issue with regards to increased velocity from the longer barrel overlooks a couple things. The longer barrel with regards to the pistol makes little or no difference to velocity when you are comparing 4.5 to 5.25 inches when using most factory loads. That ammo is designed with many factors in mind, and lowest recoil is not one of them in nearly all cases. That is usually the result of one load being lighter than another. One barrel to the next due to bore and chamber variations can make a greater difference than the length alone to affect velocity in most instances. The longer barrel although this is minimal, allows the burning expanding gasses more time to expend it's energy, (giving more velocity) and then reduce the rocket nozzle effect caused by the powder gasses sudden relatively uncontrolled expansion as the bullet leaves the muzzle. I do agree that optimizing the load and reducing it's power factor greatly reduces all the effects of ignition and ballistically produced recoil and muzzle flip. Especially when an optimized powder and bullet weight are used to achieve the desired feel. This of course results in less power in most cases.
I'm glad the 5.25's have been so well received. I also very much like them. The gun has come a long way from it's humble beginnings as a rough and tumble service pistol.
Again these are just my opinions based on 40 years of watching such things. I might be wrong.
Rob
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There is lots of info on this throughout this forum, if I knew how to direct you to it I would but... So here is my 2 cents worth.
All of those mentioned do great work. Springfield's Custom shop work does not void your warranty. All the others may. All the shops mentioned do the trigger work differently, but come up with pretty much the same result. Physics be physics.
Without getting into all the different techniques they use, the weight of the trigger is going to be determined by the springs and the sear. The striker spring for instance is sometimes replaced or modified to lighten the trigger pull. Knowing that, what ammo do you want your gun to reliably fire? A trigger pull that is as light as possible may not and in my experience, will not, always fire surplus or military or some readily available commercial primers. The factory striker spring will at the cost of an additional 1/4 to 1 lb. trigger pull, depending on how the trigger job is done. The triggers reset may not feel as positive and sharp as stock with a reduced power spring returning the trigger. This can vary as much as a pound or two dependent on what part is used. Are these acceptable trades?
Movement distance is totally separate of the pull weight. That is controlled by how much pre travel, sear engagement and over travel the mechanism has. If this is adjusted incorrectly, many bad things happen. Gun may not fire, striker may follow slide, safeties may not work correctly etc. So this needs to left to someone who understands the mechanism; it''s function and limitations. I have seen quite a few "trigger jobs" that are unsafe and unreliable.
If you simply want the trigger pull to be lighter than stock, that can be accomplished cheaply and simply. But, have it done by someone who knows the mechanism. The specifications of the unmodified trigger as delivered from the factory is 100% percent reliable with all known ammo. It will stay functional under all kinds of neglect and abuse. Unbelievable amounts of both actually. That is the fundamental design of the pistol.
Too reduce the triggers movement, and still function properly is also science, not magic, but few people really understand the workings of any trigger, much less one as new in design as the XD/XDm platform. The stock mechanism is designed around specifications that allow it to function properly in extreme conditions. This means there is allowance in the trigger mechanism's tolerances to permit dirt and grime and water and whatever to be present, yet still function properly. These tolerances are there for a reason. Reducing trigger movement requires the removal of any excess tolerances. If done poorly or incorrectly, the result will be poor reliability or worse, an unsafe condition.
We competition shooters have always been willing to trade a certain amount of the "abuse and neglect" buffer designed into a system for a performance improvement. This does not come without cost. At the very least you will have higher maintenance and possibly reduced reliability under adverse conditions. This of course is determined by what is done to the firearm. An unmodified XD/XDm is about as reliable and durable a mechanism as you can find in the firearms world. However, for a competition gun may trade some of that, within reason for the ability to shoot more accurately and faster.
Trigger modifications range from drop in kits designed to modestly reduce weight to full house trigger jobs that reduce all movements and weight to a bare minimum. I may have to use specially designed ammo with very precise components to remain reliable. I am willing to do this. I will have to keep the mechanism clean and well lubricated to function properly. I will also need to train with the modified mechanism in order to operate it competently and safely.
Remember when reading about a trigger modification to your XD/XDm that the person writing it may only care about improving the gun for competition shooting and like me be willing to live with the cost.
Now having gotten all that down, I wish something like this was on the FAQ's. I do not know how that might get done, but it would be nice for those that are interested in this info later.
Rob
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I should be receiving my 525 .40 any day now. look forward to working up loads and seeing how it shoots. It's coming with a SA Custom Shop trigger job and I'm going to install my heavy tungsten guide rod from CC. I now will start the search for a magwell that doesn't require frame mods. I already have mags with extended base pads from both CC and Arredondo and spring and follower from Gramms that increases capacity to 21+1. will be a nice cheap limited setup but I want it to still be easily converted back to production legal, as that is the way I setup my guns for some of the training I conduct. I wonder how it will shoot? If it's anything like the 9mm, it's going to be awesome!
I'm thinking of holding a XD/XDm only shooting class. Kind of a Springfield Polymer pistol owners group thing, might be fun?
Rob
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All the Custom shops can do great trigger jobs for you, but for what you are asking for I would consider the Powder River Precision striker safety lever and trigger. Those two parts installed correctly can reduce reset, pre travel and over travel by at least half.
This won't reduce trigger pull weight. That is controlled by spring tension and the sear and those are areas that should only be altered by the factory or at least a highly experienced and skilled gunsmith familiar with the XD/XDm plarform.
Rob
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The trigger on the gun in the video was done by the Springfield Custom Shop. That is what I call my #1 gun, and I had the trigger work done by them before ever firing it. Stock the 5.25 has the same trigger as the 3.8's and 4.5's. There are no changes. There are pages and pages of this covered earlier on this forum. If you can find those posts you can learn all about the gun.
Rob
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I am using a Safariland 5198 and it is now available. Not sure if the website has been updated but the design is done and in production. I was using the same model for a XD tactical and the 4.5 XDm and both worked fine. SLide and Barrel protruded about .100 in on the 4.5.
Rob
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Update alert!
Just returned from the range. Hot as hell here in the Phoenix Area, but had to shoot the old 5.25 as I have recently had the barrel refit. There is good news and good news! The more rounds I shoot through this gun the better it performs with the light bullets. After about 8-9,000 rounds I wanted to see if tightening up the barrel in the gun would make any difference.
This gun when new shot 147's very well but not as great with 115's. I had many sub 5 inch groups with 147 MG's at 50 yards but was unable to match that with the 115's. I guess maybe it is breaking in or something because it started getting better and better with more rounds fired to the point that when I went to the steel challenge, 115's were shooting as well as 147's? Curious!
Now, this gun shoots so well I didn't want to mess with it and had my #2 gun delivered from the factory with a match barrel fit at the Springfield Custom shop. The difference in accuracy was not significant enough for me to worry about, as either gun could easily hold the Bianchi 10 ring (8"0 at 50 yards). For anything I'm doing this is more than sufficient. Remember these are not the best groups, but what the guns did regularly. I have my screamer groups but don't use them as the measuring stick. Instead I concern myself with the worst groups a gun/ammo combination will deliver. When you get the worst groups to be good, you have a winner!
As in a 1911 or any other gun I have experience with, lots of rounds loosen up the fit and accuracy goes down. Maybe I should clean it more often than once every 5'000 rounds. The 5.25's seem to be holding up well in this area, but I wanted to see if refitting the hood and lower lug would help anything. I can tell you that after the refit I shot a 3.88 inch 10 shot 50 yard group resting the gun on the mag base pad on a table. I assume I am holding due to aiming and trigger pulling at best, 2". I wasn't really even trying that hard, just wanted to see if these XDm's respond to the same treatments as do 1911's. Not sure how it shot before refit as I hadn't fired any groups for many thousands of rounds, but I can state the accuracy improved with 115 bullets. No flyers or ugly shots to mess up the group. I do need to go up and left 1 click! But hey, it is zeroed for 147's!
At 25 yards it is ridiculously easy to shoot head shots on a USPSA target or 10's on a bianchi D1. The trigger on this gun has also improved from the rounds fired and now measures right between 2.5 and 2.75 lbs. I'm having trouble shooting my 1911's as well right now as I have only shot the 5.25's since receiving them. Better get them out before the USPSA L10 National!
Rob
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The one you installed is, I have 2 other black ones you sent me. You can't remember either, HA!!!! The stainless one is the one you installed in #3.
Rob
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I know Daniel, I just had to say what I thought. I'm putting a different mag release in my number 2 gun, can I get away with your lighter spring for that with the weird no turn mag release? I hate changing them things so I don't wanna do it more than I have to. BTW, received the grip tape stuff, thanks again!!. You gotta figure out some sort of permanent adhesive for that stuff. I really like the shape but when it gets 110 it starts to move around a little. I wouldn't care if I couldn't ever remove it. Of course I'm the only one who would want it that way so you'd never sell any, but I'd be happy!! Or I could move to somewhere cooler than HELL!!!
Seriously though thanks, I really appreciate your stuff. Hey, can you make me some really light trigger return springs?
Rob
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I know who does Rob's triggers and what parts are used. I have 6 XDm's, 3 are 5.25's. All work on the triggers was done by Springfields Custom Shop, who I feel do an awesome job, but all have also been modified by me. That sometimes works out!
Here is update on my 3 5.25's:
All have Springer, PRP or Canyon Creek light striker springs. All three makers work well with WW or Federal primers. Stock striker springs are used when wanting cleaner trigger release or am shooting ammo with primers other than WW or Federal. All have PRP trigger that is used by the Springfield Custom Shop on the top end trigger jobs. I have lighter sear springs and trigger return springs from PRP, CCC and Springer precision in some, stock in others. Not sure now which is which. I use whichever gives me the return and feel I want in that gun.
All three triggers feel different.
All three have Dawson .100 front sights.
All now have 14 lb recoil springs from Springer.
Gun #1. My original black 5.25. Barrel recently refit by Don Golembieski at Kodiak precision. He is local and my buddy and I wanted to see if it would help, which it does, but it will require lots of load development to be able to take advantage of this mod. IPSC or IDPA shooters would probably have no need for this mod. This is the gun that I shot all the amazing groups with when new. It still shoots very well, is now more consistent. 8'000 plus rounds now on this one. Has Springfield Armory Custom Shop trigger job and is the best of any I have. I shoot this gun very well and have not messed with the trigger other than lighter springs for Federal and WW primers only. This gun's trigger is slightly soft and breaks at 2.5 lbs. I shot this at the steel challenge in the IDPA ESP class. Has grip texturing by Accuracy Speaks. This is my favorite and has yet to malfunction. I shoot this trigger better than any I have and prefer it to any I have seen from others. No disrespect, but the SA custom trigger job does the best for me. Better than I can do and I thought I could do anything.
Gun #2. Bitone 5.25. I really like the looks of the stainless slide. This one has SA Custom Shop trigger with a little messing with by me. I have heavied it up with stock unmodified sear spring to about 3.5 lbs, as that is what will be required for Bianchi Cup. The trigger is very clean! Remarkably so for a polymer pistol. For those of you wanting short movement and solid reset and short over travel, this is the one. Just ask Dave or Deb to make it clean rather than as light as is possible. Has Accuracy speaks grip texturing, New Match grade barrel fit by SA Custom. Has only a few thousand rounds on it as I just always want to shoot gun number one and have only used this one when extensively when Kippi stole #1 for a week.
Gun #3. Black 5.25. My newest. Has PRP grip tape installed, which works as well as anything just doesn't last as long in the Arizona summer heat as the permanent texturing does. Currently has a Barsto barrel in it! Helps to know the right people. Has a mag release from PRP, the one that doesn't turn. Installed perfectly by Daniel his self. This one has CC big diameter tungsten spring guide. Has PRP striker safety lever and trigger job was done by Jeremy at SA Custom. I consider him the master as he has without question done more work on XD/XDm than anyone else. This one is 3.25 lbs and clean. The ultimate compromise between ultra clean and ultra light. Shoots 115 grainers very, VERY well!!! SA Custom gets these weights with stock full power springs giving total reliability with all primers. Only a few hundred on this one as of yet.
All this is as it sits tonight. I cannot guarantee things will not be changed, or that you would like my setups. All three guns are very accurate and crazy reliable.
A note about the drop in triggers. PRP and Springer both make great products and I use them. However, If you aren't the mechanical type, let someone else do it. If you want it perfect, let someone else do it. No way a drop in can be as good as a Custom Shop job. That being said, the drop ins can change the trigger pull, but you gotta know what you are doing. There are lots of checks to make sure you have done everything right. All these void your warranty!! I would be remiss if I didn't say that. If anyone other than Springfield does your trigger job, you void your warranty. Now if you have Daniel or Scott or Rich work on your gun, they will do a great job, I know and respect all three. There are others out there I'm sure. But, If you put the thing together yourself and you do the old figure it out as you go because you do not know what you are doing technique, do not expect the same results as if it was done by an expert.
I have drop in kits from PRP and Springer. They are 75 percent of a good trigger job. But again, you gotta know what you are doing and accept the consequences of voiding the warranty.
Wow, I'm such as buzz kill....
Rob
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John Won in 1980 and 81 in Virginia, Plaxco in 1982 in Milan, and then I won in 1983 at Milan. '83 was really cool because Brian and I went 1-2, and absolutely destroyed everyone else. That's when the whole game change in IPSC!!
Rob
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Lots of memories. But first; leadpoison is full of crap. I or Shaw never did or would harass a shooter battling for a title during their match scoring course of fire. ESPECIALLY not Tom Campbell!! So whatever he is talking about is total bull****!!! Now, could we have harassed one another when it was a side event or a shootoff or something? You bet! We still do, makes the game fun and entertaining. Those that are not really part of that crowd of shooters wouldn't recognize the difference. When you are in a real battle for score, we are supremely supportive. No mind games because what comes around goes around. Plus this ain't golf. We deal with noise and distraction all the time.
John and his son Houston just competed in the Steel Challenge and the scores are available online at USPSA.org. Houston did very well, obviously the apple didn't fall far from the tree. John shot a perfect run on Outer limits and 5 to go, both very difficult stages in that match so he has not forgotten anything he once knew. Shaw was the man when Big Daddy Enos and I started shooting and won 2 IPSC US Nationals and the first Steel Challenge. He quit when he was in his prime and still can outshoot most of us! It was good to see him back but it sure makes me feel old to be battling with my friends children at shooting matches now!
As far as significant events, all that about guns is interesting but the events Like Brian's 505 at the plates in 80 whatever are the things I remember. The part you don't know is that while that was happening on the plates, I was running around scrounging ammo from whoever I could as Brian hadn't brought enough to stay up there and shoot extras for an hour or two!! The stuff he was shooting about halfway through was a total hodgepodge of different bullet types, powders and velocities. That was the amazing part because there is no way he knew where to hold for those different loads, so he just aimed in the middle. There is a lesson there me thinks?
Rob
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I have found Montana gold 147's to shoot very well. I use them for USPSA Production class. There are good and bad shooting bullets out there, they are not all created equal! At just under 900 FPS I have had 4-5 inch groups at fifty through an unmodified 5.25. If I can hit all rounds in the A box in the head of a USPSA target at 25 I'm done with accuracy testing for practical shooting.
Rob
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I use this in my 5.25 for USPSA production class. I will use CCC's big heavy tungsten for next years Bianchi cup. I used the solid Steel Springer Precision big diameter guide rod with his 14 lb spring at the Steel Challenge for IDPA ESP class. Im probably going to go to that 14 lb spring for everything now.
Rob
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You guys are funny. You make me laugh, I'll kill you last!
I also have been putting many rounds through my 5.25's. I am just as happy with them now as when I first received them.
Interestingly I have done the triggers on all three differently and each has it's own feel. All have the Powder River Precision triggers on them that Springfield Custom offers as an option. This trigger just works so well I have them in nearly all of my XD/XDm's now. They all have shorter take up, over travel and reset. All three trigger jobs were done differently but are setup so the trigger stays more forward in the trigger guard at it's release point than stock. Some trigger jobs position the trigger toward the back of the trigger guard where the stock trigger releases. This is just personal preference, no advantage either way except when you weigh the trigger release weight, you may get a lighter reading as the trigger pull gauge moves further down the trigger. It doesn't mean the trigger is lighter that way, just measures differently.
Gun #3 the newest, was done with a long smooth release, kinda like a short revolver trigger, and it is the lightest at about 2.5 lbs measured with the scale on the center of the trigger itself. I haven't shot this one enough to like it yet. It has but a few hundred rounds through it and my timing is not as sharp with it as gun #1.
Gun #2. The Bi-Tone. This one has the heaviest of the triggers at about 3.5 lbs. This has the cleanest of the triggers, with a very short release. This is the one I think I like the best but am still experimenting with it. I need to have the trigger at 3.5 lbs for Bianchi. This will be set to that weight as I feel that trigger pull type will give me the best results for slower accurate shooting. That theory has yet to be tested on these 5.25's.
Gun #1. Old faithful. It has nearly 7,000 rounds on it now (starting to loose track of which one I'm shooting) and has a trigger pull exactly between #2 and #3. Release weight right at 3 lb with a rolling break not as clean as number #2 but shorter than #3. This is the happy medium and I shoot it very well.
I used #1 to win the IDPA ESP class at the Steel Challenge with I believe the best score I have ever shot with an iron sighted pistol! better than my Limited gun from last year. This also with a Safariland 5198 concealment holster. ISP allows my Safariland 013 competition holster that is much faster and legal in ISP class. I'm actually pretty proud of myself about that! I was 3rd fastest ISP against all the limited guys.
#1 and #3 have unmodified stock barrels, #2 has a custom shop match barrel that fits much tighter. The good news it it shoots very well. The other good news is so do the 2 with no barrel work! The custom barrel IS better, but I'm not sure the average guy is going to see the advantage unless he needs extreme accuracy and is a precise shooter. The 5.25's out of the box just shoot very well! When this becomes talk about Bianchi I'll revisit this barrel thing again.
Rob
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I agree, best wishes to Dave, but I hope he isn't leaving shooting! I don't know where he'll go and all this speculation is just that. Let's try to control our rumor mongering until we hear from him. If he does quit shooting, which I doubt, why couldn't he have done it BEFORE the Single Stack Nationals!!!!
Rob
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I don't know if it is any kind of record, it is my best but. It was just practice, and using a timer picking up sound, not adding flight time like the real match. But for some reason I just couldn't miss today. Was funny because I was shooting with my physical terrorist Chad Reilly, and he couldn't go that fast and was getting angry, so I got that going for me, which is nice....
Rob
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Wow. I mean really WOW! I now see how all this internet, speculation, bullshit really works. All I can say is WOW. It would be funny to get all the people named in this thread together and listen to THEM talk about these issues. Not the what if's and conjecture, but the facts.
I'm not sure anyone shooting anything could beat an on track Dave in production class at a USPSA National. Not me, not Bob, not anyone. What makes anyone think Bob would do what Dave has in any circumstance? Having a real life to fall back on may make it easier to put in a high level performance? When you are expected to be great every time by every one with no excuses, it makes it all a different deal.
BTW, Bob is a great guy. Unlike many of the emerging great shots, he is actually skilled and disciplined. He may be the next Dave Sevigney, but don't use that Indoor match this year as any indication of performance until you know all the facts.
If Dave is coming to Springfield Armory, I know nothing about it. Matter of fact it would be a big surprise to me. Dave is awesome and will let all know what, where and why, when he is ready. I hope he does play hockey, or become a big time poker player. Would make all the other shooters jobs easier.
He is Glock and made them in the competition world a player. Not those that followed him, just Dave. Others came and made there mark also but it is Dave who made it all happen. I wouldn't have ever believed you could shoot one of those guns that well. Until Dave. And he beat me at my beloved SS nationals this year. God I hate him!
Rob
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I just received two more 5.25's! One black with no mods and the other Bi Tone with Springfield Custom Shop Trigger Job. The accuracy of both are very close. The best group of the day goes to the stock gun with 115 grain Nosler JHP's. Standing, 1.75 inches at twenty five yards. The other shoots just about the same although it is much faster with the lighter trigger. If you don't care about the fast part, you could just shoot it stock.
The wife has now stolen my original black 5.25. Yesterday she fired a group at 40 yards standing on a Bianchi target, 8-x's and 2-10's. She isn't that good of a shot! It's gotta be the gun right? That one has close to 6,000 rounds on it now and have had 0 problems. I hope I get it back for the nationals. She doesn't like the nonslip texturing on the grip. Hurts her hands. Maybe I'll fix up the stock gun with a Custom Shop trigger and let her do what she wants with the grip and let that be hers. She bumps the long mag release on that so had to re-install the stock one. She has long skinny circus freak like fingers. My short fat fingers need the extended release for fast loads, she can reach the stock part easily with out shifting the gun in her hand.
These guns are awesome. It appears that they are very acceptant of the light loads. I'm using the stock recoil spring with 115 power factor ammo no problem.
Steel Challenge practice today was enlightening. My draw is coming around with the XDm. I ran Smoke and Hope today and am regularly under 2 seconds. My last set was 1.8, 1.8, 1.8, 2.1, 1.7. That is better than I normally do with the 1911's. I really like the way the gun points. This was with the Bi-tone, which has 3 lb. trigger, grip tape kit from Powder river precision, .100 front sight. Stock springs, guide rod etc. I'm able to run 5 to go right under the 3 second mark and roundabout was 2.0's to 2.5's with clean runs.
Am looking forward to the Production class event at the Steel Challenge.
Rob
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I am using the stock spring on a Springer solid steel guide rod for USPSA right now and the big diameter tungsten rod from Canyon creek for Bianchi, no weight limit applications. It is too heavy for USPSA but sure does make a difference in recoil. A couple ounces is noticeable! Scott is sending me a new spring he carries for the large diameter guide rod that I'll try as soon as I get it.
Rob
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Direction doesn't matter. Just use a punch and drive the pin out, pivot it from the bottom, replace with whichever one you want. I am using the number 1.
Rob
Christmas comes early, XDM 5.25
in Springfield (XD)
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I have the lightest of the PRP trigger return springs in all my XDm's now. They return the trigger better in some cases than other reduced power springs that are heavier! This is because it has more preload than some others and even though it is light, it doesn't gain much weight as the trigger is pulled. It is a must have unless you are not after the lightest possible trigger. I'm very happy to see all these positive comments from 5.25 owners. I have just finished working with my .40 5.25 and am going to try to find the thread I started some time back to report results.
Rob