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OK, that is the one I have. I am a Glock dummy. I thought that the insert would have a stud since the base pad has a hole. Thank you very much. The picture helped!

I lost the magazine insert for my 33 round 9mm block magazine and I need to order another, but I do not know which one to order. I have an old magazine insert in my parts box, but the post that locks into the hole in the base pad doesn't line up with the hole. Can someone point me in the right direction or explain what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, Chris

Does anyone know the details of the new AR laws in CA? If I have a featureless rifle without using a bullet button, is it still legal? Does every rifle regardless of its configuration have to registered as an "Assault Rifle"?

I copied this from Ty Hamby's post on this regarding loading 38 Short Colt for his 929 revolver: "Bottom: I am using a 38special conversion kit. This kit includes conversion components that allow you to load .38special/.357Mag. The only parts in this kit not being used for short colt is the .38special powder funnel and case feed adapter. For those items you will need a purple case feed adapter found in the .40S&W kit as well as the "F" powder funnel found in the 9mm conversion kit. If you own a 9mm, .38special, and .40S&W conversion kits you own everything already. If all you have is the 38 special conversion kit then you will need to add the purple adapter and "F" funnel to your order. As for the top, I used the 4 die 9mm lee kit found at midway for like $35. Station1 Lee 9mm size die, Station 2 Dillon 9mm F funnel, Station 3 powder check, Station 4 9mm seat die, Station 5 9mm FCD. In 6 years of ICORE loading I have never used a roll crimp in my revolvers. I have always used taper crimp for my Short Colt, Long Colt, Medium Colt loading. I have never ran a 38special round in an ICORE gun. I have always shot non-canalure rounds as well. (pistol profile rounds) FCD! There is a lot of discussion around the use of this die. IMO, it is the most misused, misunderstood, and abused die. This abuse or misuse easily causes problems for people. I use the FCD with great success. In this application you probably don't need an FCD like your glocked 9mm setup might, but I use it with success as an added safety factor that help my moons fall in. The trick is to never, ever, add more crimp than just removing the bell. Do not give it any extra turn for good measure. Not even a 1/8 turn. When I think I have it set perfectly, I back it off to verify the bell comes back on the next round just for good measure to ensure I am not over swedgeing the projectile. Adding extra crimp on an FCD will ruin the bullets by under sizing them. Setting the amount of crimp to a level that leaves no bell at the same time adds no swedge to the bullet is how that die needs to be set. "

The reason I got the big-butt grip was to shoot prone for Far and Near standards. The Big Butt is designed to get your gun off the ground enough to have your sights aligned naturally for 50 yard shooting. The other added benefit is the way your support hand can tighten against the butt. If you sand away the grip enough under the trigger for a higher grip, there will be room for your whole support hand pinky to fit under your shooting hand pinky. It makes for a really solid purchase on the gun.

Well, I have been following this thread, and as a result, I was very nervous about this big change to Far and Near. However, I got to test out the system this afternoon, and I am very impressed. The mechanism is very cleverly designed and seems to be strong as well. The start is activated by a cool wired remote contol box. It is a random delayed start, so there is a short delay between "Stand By" and the start. At the 50 yard line, there is a horn at the start so even people who start facing up range will know when to start. At the 25, 10, and 3 yard lines, there is no horn, but the air compressor powered activators make an audible hiss sound that tells you the targets are turning. The sound should help eliminate any confusion in case the wind moves the targets a little. I was worried that there would not be enough time to shoot the targets before they turned, but the designers programmed in enough time to get your full time before the targets disappear, which admittedly is a little scary. In short, I was pleasantly surprised, and my fears are gone. I am looking forward to shooting it this weekend, and I think that this kind of innovation is exactly what ICORE needs. Good luck, and have fun!

Apex Tactical makes them for competition

Wheelgunners, the 17th Annual ICORE Southwest Regional Revolver Championship is being held at the Hogue Range in Beautiful Morro Bay, CA on Saturday, April 19. The application is on the ICORE website: http://icore.org/pdf/SouthwestRegionalEntry_2014.pdf See you there! Chris Sallee SW Regional MD

S&W has a life-time warranty, and I have found them to be very helpful on the phone. The last time I needed a spring, the guy sent me 3 since he figured I would lose one again the next time I took the sideplate off. lol

The v-comp barrel has the advantage of more muzzle weight to reduce muzzle flip from recoil, but it is also a little heavier than the regular 627 barrel making it feel a little slower when you have to swing the gun to the next target quickly like on steel. It is a matter of preference.

Well, I have already shot my 627 several times in USPSA, but I had to shoot in Limited 10. While it was fun to compete against limited 10 with a minor revolver, it will be much more fun to shoot against a whole division of 8-shot revolvers all being scored the same! Now I need to find out if S&W is planning to submit 929s to the CA Roster so we can buy them.

Try wearing a shotgun shell style bag around your waist to catch the spent shells when you reload. At least for practice, that would minimize clean-up. Just a thought.

The six inch barrel is great for increasing your accuracy with a longer sight radius, but the heavier barrel is slower to move around. That's why I love the 5" barrel on my 627. If you could get a 5" 686, (especially one with a mountain gun under lug profile) that might be the sweet spot!

It would be nice if we had an online membership program that sent out renewal emails for both individuals and clubs.

I run the ICORE match at the Hogue Range, and we have been allowing pistols to shoot our match for years. The motivation is partly to have more shooters at the matches since ICORE is our venue with the lowest attendance. The other motivation is to let everyone come shoot a fun match with really friendly people whether they have a revo or not. Sometimes the pistol shooters are friends or family of a regular revo shooter who want to come see what we do. Sometimes the pistol shooters are kids shooting .22s who want to learn how to shoot in a competition with movement. On rare occasions, the pistol shooters liked our match and our crowd so much that they went out and bought a revo. We want to encourage people to shoot matches regardless of their equipment. The ICORE crowd has (in my experience) been more accepting and welcoming than the other shooting sports.

Was that a typo? Do you mean 5 gallons? Or 50 gallons? If 50 gallons, then: This guy has got it going on with his tricked out Dillon 600 swager: I've just been buying factory commercial ammo, and then saving that (uncrimped) brass to reload with. Any crimped in primer stuff that I find goes in a box that I have had for years. I have one of the RCBS tools that gets chucked in their prep center. I've also heard that a chamfering/deburring tool normally used on the mouths of the cases, will ream out the crimp too. I just figure I will chuck the deburring tool in my handheld corded drill, clamp the drill in a vise, and then lock the trigger down. I plan on having an "inbox" on the bench, of still crimped brass. and then a 5 gallon bucket as my "outbox" sitting on the floor. I would think it would go pretty quickly. That is awesome. I applaud your creativity. I'll be trying this next time I break out the bucket of brass and my 600. Thanks!

Bill Dillon in another thread said they would not warranty if this is used. (Cannot locate the thread now although this thread aludes to it - http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=184900&hl=+650 +swager&page=1 (post #9) I knew it sounded too good to be true. Does anyone know of another way to swage .223 and 9mm on the 650 press? The Super Sawager 600 is nice, but I prefer to skip a step and do it on the tool head.

LOL, good point! I forgot that we would need to argue about this for the next several months. I am in favor of shooting it whichever way will give me an advantage and everyone else a disadvantage.

I started 3-gun with a Leupold CQ/T 1-3, and the 1x was clear and easy to use on close targets. However, 3x was not good enough for the far targets with my eyes. I switched to an MTAC 1.5-6x scope, and I love it! I was afraid that 1.5x would not be as fast on close targets, but it is not that bad. Besides saving a few seconds on close targets is not as valuable as being able to see the far ones and hitting them in under 100 seconds! LOL

On my 5" 627, I have the Weigand rear sight with a .125" wide notch and an SDM front sight that is .250" high and .125" wide. I think it is the perfect combo! The only change I would make is to "dog ear" the rear blade for more visibility on the far targets like on Far and Near.

Another advantage of using a slightly longer case than Short Colt is that it enables you to seat a heavier bullet like the 170 grain Billy Bullets all the way to the shoulder without having too much pressure. Some have said that they use the 158 grain bullets with short colt, but in my limited experiment, the 170s were too long for a short colt case. Either you seat them deep enough for fast reloads and have really high pressures or you increase the OAL and have a longer distance before they clear the cylinder.

I think they became effective after the last Regional Match of 2013.

Get the Hogue rubber grips. They feel good; they are reasonably priced; and the left side "ear" can be sanded down or even cut off short for speedloader clearance.

This little gizmo could save your butt on par time stages like far and near standards! Good idea!

I think you may be using too much powder. I use 3.0 grains of Clays under a 170 grain Bear Creek or Billy bullet in regular Starline .38 long colt cases, and I make ICORE minor power factor. It also depends on how deep you are seating the bullets. The increased pressure in a small case will make the case expand so much that they are sticky coming out. That makes for slow reloads!