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  1. That thread probably explains the "Export Only" SKU numbers, frames that went to Britain and some here were nearly one-offs or cobbled together with altered or created parts, judging from the chop job to clearance for the safety. Rare birds, great info! Missed out big time when I never got a 945 and regret it. EDITED TO ADD: Next post corrected my wrong impression that the photograph was from the old thread shown when it is actually the poster's gun as explained below. Now I wonder if it went over and came back or was one of the team guns here. I'm guess that these guns inadvertently were the test bed for what became the 945s.
  2. If you haven't looked it up already...the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson describes the 3566TSW Limited that came in .356TSW in five product codes with yours probably being 170032. They were produced in 1993 only. I mention the five because there is nothing in the list of variations or details about the guns in the info that shows or describes the safety type at all. The photo in the book only shows the right side of the gun with the filler plug in the right side of the slide, no safety on that side of the frame. The only slide mounted safeties I was aware of are the ones on the 945s made between 1998 and 2005. Looks like they were all ambi and were 1911 style/shape. I don't see anything else with frame safeties until the 2004 introduction of the 1911s. I have tried to stay sort of familiar with S&W, and don't recall ever seeing anything except a photo of one like you describe being fired by a S&W team member, but I could not recall if it was a slide or frame mounted one as that was a long time ago. The only production figures listed are a 3 1/2 inch compact version that was a run of 200. Two versions were cataloged as "Export only" with no further description. Definitely worth the cost of a "letter."
  3. I don't know that this will help, as the info I saw was 10 years ago and specs may have changed...but at one time, some folks on another forum were replacing their springs with .063 music wire to make the springs STIFFER. To do that, they pressed the spring out, top to bottom, and drilled it with a 1/16th bit. No glue was mentioned, they were describing them as "press fit." There was some discussion about how the flexibility of the grip, the varying distance (tolerance? variance?) between catch and mag contributed to the way the whole thing worked as far as the mags being released too easily. Maybe you could reduce the engagement of the mag catch by removing a bit of material (cheap part, no messing with frame) and improve it to your liking.
  4. Hey, just kicking tires here, but on the 9L, who fit the barrel and what would be a price on it?  I have magazines galore, but might could use the southpaw holster.  

    Thank you ,

    Brent Barbee

    Amarillo, TX

    1. open67

      open67

      Wish I could remember but it was probably 3 years ago and just don't recall. It was someone I did some research on and was recommended at the time. I usually keep records on that stuff with the gun but we moved 2 years ago and things got shuffled and can't find anything. Maybe it will come to me but it's pretty foggy at this time. I liked both but the 9L was my favorite. Just liked the way the slide was designed better. Just a little racier looking IMO.  Would like to get 500. The barrel was close to a couple hundred and the Apex trigger adds another 100. Figure that is pretty fair considering it's coming with extra mags and holster and mag pouches and I'm paying for shipping. I guess if you didn't want any mags I could lower it to 450 figuring I'll be able to get the extra from the magazines.

    2. sheepdog

      sheepdog

      I understand, no problem on the info.  I'm really tempted at that price,  but I've got one gun coming that will spend up gun money for awhile and I have a 4 inch M&P gathering dust.  I'm going to keep rolling around in my head, 450 is a good price if I can just see a way to get to it here at tax time.  I really appreciate you taking the time to respond, thank you.

      Brent Barbee

      Amarillo, TX

    3. open67

      open67

      No problem, my pleasure.

  5. All joking aside, would those insides be understandable or acceptable in a $1500 gun rather than the current prices on 2011s? I'm not on my way out to buy one and only have owned a Spartan and Trojan (both a lot less than $1500 insides and outsides but ran) and the 2011 guys I know don't complain-but that was 2011s from a few years ago. I'm not questioning your judgment, I'm actually looking for more insight. I've considered a 9mm SS of some sort and this looked like it made sense. Keep seeing new people and news out of Georgetown and wonder. Like most Texans, having a GOOD gun that is made here appeals to me.
  6. This is EXACTLY what I was thinking...the EDC9 at half the cost...sorta. I don't know if this would make me want to sell a Commander, but I'm sure curious.
  7. For .45 shooters, looks like they have the original version and 2.0 back in stock at http://www.speedshooterspecialties.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=103_88_315&products_id=875
  8. There is an M&P specific part of this forum, http://smith-wessonforum.com/forum.php . There are some LE armorer types that can be found there, good source of factory type info. To ME and this is just my NON-scientific take, each forum offers a different type of M&P user and a different angle. The BE forum has more experimenters, the competition and often out on the front edge of things guys...the high round count shooters. The M&P forum has a broad range of users, with some novice user/carriers and some internal mechanical authorities worth looking at (I think Avedis is one, but there are three or four there), and the S&W forum has more LE armorer type insights in the posts.
  9. There is one for sale on Teaxs Gun Talk, a 4506 for 550.  Looks like it needs a bath and brush pretty bad and I don't know the seller or gun, but it is there.  He has a long membership there.  

    If you decide you want something lighter, I have a tuned up 4563TSW ex duty gun and a bunch of parts and mags I could be talked out of probably.

    Best

    Brent Barbee

    Amarillo, TX

  10. Cheapest I've seen right there. Getting there on cost, but now looking at the 2.0 guns and still watching for Apex. Wonder if they can get close to that? I'm in no hurry.
  11. At $419 on those, a bit too close to a whole gun price. Really thinking Apex will be a better product for the money or close...that would appeal to me. I don't like how loose the factory slides are on the frame inserts much less the possibility of barrel related accuracy problems.
  12. Model 945. Had the slide safety holes plugged and frame mounted safeties like a 1911. Performance Center guns. Still want one. Haven't seen one in years, surely discontinued.
  13. I'm a 1911/M&P .45 guy. I carry and shoot the 4/4.5 M&Ps more because I carry them on duty. No problems and lots of good things to say. Factory finish holds up well and they are easy to add improvements to. I'm sure my .45s outshoot my 9mm but that is not saying much! Seems like they are the under appreciated M&Ps. My mid-size would be my "if you knew you were going to get into a shooting and had to take one pistol" gun.
  14. Hey, thanks for considering it, and best wishes on your move. I'll keep my head on a swivel for this one.
  15. Guess there might not be enough demand for a 5 inch since the Pro and L are out there, but some of us with the standard size gun would love to have one, especially with the Apex barrel. Maybe with a reduction in Smith's generous tolerance between the slide and frame, if that is part of the plan....since finding a Smith 5 inch slide is tough.
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