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  1. Read ALL of D4 (assuming we're talking Procuction Division). Special conditions: — Handguns with external hammers must be fully decocked at the start signal. What in D4 would change 8.1.2.3 ? ETA Never mind. I re-read 8.1.2.3, and I agree with the panel. (stupid "or" word ) No requirement for safety on. But for the record, (I run a 92fs in production), and I have the safety on and hammer down. It's not too hard to flick the safety off while drawing, but do as you like.
  2. I think you guys are all wrong on this one. 8.1.2.3 “Selective action” – chamber loaded with hammer fully down, or chamber loaded and hammer cocked with external safety engaged (see Divisions in Appendix D) The Beretta 92 is a DS/SA gun
  3. I agree. Nothing wrong with it. Even better that you kept your hand on the gun while in the holster. I had to send a guy home because he did the same as you (ran uprange, but without the hand) & his gun fell out.
  4. Email from DNORI (John Amidon) "A ring is not in line with the meaning of notch when it comes to the divisions, notch only without the ring." I guess I get to cut the top off of the diamond I have on my SS gun.... :angry2:
  5. Heck, I'm a "B" class shooter and I've shot a cable. It was a caused by a combination of my height (6'3") and poor stage design. Why should I be penalized for that? For the record, it was a "shoot through" on a close target that hit a downrange activator cable.
  6. There it is again..."available" No such requirement in the rule book. 4.6.1 Range equipment must present the challenge fairly and equitably to all competitors. I think we can agree that some movement is unavoidable, and how much that is allowed can be debated. In my opinion, in THIS particular case, the presentation of the target has changed to an unacceptable degree. I would stop the competitor immediately, "unload and show clear". Mandatory re-shoot.
  7. Nothing in the rules about "availability" of the target. Rule simply states "displacement of paper target". Lee But where does displacement end? You shoot in the morning where the wind is gentle and stable out of the East. Targets are parallel to the breeze so they do not move at all. Later squads shoot with the wind gusting out of the North and the targets are rocking back and forth, even twisting in the wind 3,4,5". Do we toss the stage because the stage is not equitable now with the targets being displaced like that? This is definitely more displacement than one side dropping an inch when the stick gets shot. I have seen stick get hit and drop the entire target. I have seen sticks get hit and cause the one side to settle 1/2" as the upper stick drops on top of the lower stick. Is that drop enough to require a reshoot? I have seen sticks get hit and while the stick was broken it did not drop at all because enough remained of the stick to hold the elevation the same. Reshoot because the stick is now broken? I leave this to the discretion of the RO. If the shooter does not like it they can appeal to the CRO or RM. I assume that since you are now silent on the "availability" of a target you are conceding that point? I will agree with you that the amount of "displacement" is up to the RO, RM, & MD to decide. In your above situation, the RO, RM, MD had better be making all efforts to stabilize the flopping targets before anybody in the "afternoon" group shoots them, otherwise the stage should be thrown out. Personally, I would never shoot another match run by a group that would allow such a situation to happen (wildly flapping targets creating an unequal challenge to different shooters, and not throwing the stage out) And I consider 3,4,5" movement of targets to be "wildly flapping"
  8. Rules don't seem to indicate anything about intention. I can intend to get AA on every target, if I don't, do I get a reshoot? Listen, I am not trying to be disrespectful, I know you guys have way more experience than I do at this sport. I am just trying to provide a good arguement about my point of view. I have hit target stick that have broke the target before. I never took a reshoot because I shot it, the equipment didn't fail. But it doesn't matter what caused the REF. There is nothing in the rules about what CAUSES a REF, it only says WHAT a REF is. The only recourse we have in the rule book is for a mandatory reshoot.
  9. Nothing in the rules about "availability" of the target. Rule simply states "displacement of paper target". Lee
  10. I would call if REF and re-shoot. The course of fire is not the same for all competitors. 4.6.1 Range equipment must present the challenge fairly and equitably to all competitors. Range equipment failure includes, the displacement of paper targets, the premature activation of metal or moving targets, the failure to reset moving targets or steel targets, the malfunction of mechanically or electrically operated equipment, and the failure of props such as openings, ports, and barriers. Lee
  11. I'm sure I read on the Single Stack Classic website that "ghost ring" type rear sights are considered to be legal for SS division. (of course now I can't find that rule page!) I'm wondering if anybody knows if this style of sights are actually legal for SS and Production? And if not, would it be okay if you cut a *tiny little slot* in the ring to make it "notch and post"? Just to clarify for people who may not know what I'm looking at. Lee
  12. I've heard a few people (at local matches in Colo) say that the "quad" mag pouches are not going to be allowed next year for SS. Has anybody heard an official ruling on this? (or even that the rules committee is looking at it?) Lee
  13. You did a heck of a job with the match Charlie. (As well as your wife with her yummy lunches) I thought the same thing (being off my game), but I think it was due to the fact that the stages looked easy, but they actually weren't. Second overall, while being MD, is nothing to be mad about. Congrats! Lee
  14. Funny you should start this topic. I'm in exactly the same position as you. (B class, 67%) I had that same situation at a recent match. Opening a door activated a disappearing target. A local GM told me to skip it, because my skill level wasn't enough to get good hits on other targets in between, but my skill is too high to just wait for it. I won the stage skipping the disappearing target (23s @ 5.7hf to 26s @ 5.1hf). Still not sure about that whole thing, but I can see what he was saying. Don't just throw a couple of shots at a target, make sure you get good hits. I would have ended up throwing two low percentage shots at a static, then two more at the disappearing. Lee
  15. Appendix A3 defines the word MOVEMENT as follows: "Taking more than one step in any direction, or changing body position (e.g. from standing to kneeling, from seated to standing etc.)" So while your opinion may be a perfectly valid personal point of view, it would not be supported by the current rule book. Under the current USPSA rules, retrieval of the gun is not--in and of itself--movement. I think the key point to Appendix A3 is "changing BODY position" Retrieving the firearm in this case does not fit with the definition of "movement" according to the rule book. Besides, even if the situation fit the definition of movement, it wouldn't have been a DQ-able offense since a person could claim that they were shooting at a target. (The "I meant to do it" defense) To my mind, the only rule that would make sure a shooter (who just had an unsafe moment, but is not admitting to it), is going home early is 10.5
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