Nick Weidhaas

We purchased one for work and they are pretty effective. The training videos on the site and the info with the SIRT trainer gun are pretty good. Its a great tool / aid for both new / problem shooters and instructors. Police (at least my dept.) get limited range time. The SIRT lets me work with the new or problem shooter off the range. Teaching a proper sight picture and trigger press (among other skill sets) is a challenge, because at the time the gun is fired, you aren't seeing what the shooter is seeing. There are tricks to determine if its a sight alignment or trigger press issue (usually improper trigger press), but the SIRT let me see essentially see what the shooter is seeing (and showing what they are doing) before and after the trigger is pressed. I teach primarily front sight focus (there is a place for target focus at certain distances and depending on size of target). Because of the take up laser I see where the gun was when the shooter pressed the trigger and if the action of pressing the trigger is moving the gun (front sight) and the green laser is showing me where the shot went. Shooter draws, indexes to target and presses trigger...The two lights give the coach feedback as to what the new or problem shooter is or isn't doing. Also effective for movement training and transitions as Mike said. (I do keep the lasers down below the front sight so the shooter can't see them.)

My Gen 4 G17 that I got April 12 had the beavertail back straps included. The LE Gen 4 G22's we got at work earlier this year didn't. I emailed Glock to see if we could get the beavertail back straps for our work G22's and was told the Gen 4s just started shipping with the beavertails back straps in March. Glock is offering a beavertail kit (1) med and (1) large for $16.00. I tried them both on my gun and didn't care for the large, but the medium was pretty nice. They definitely have a different feel than the original back straps. I was using a large original back strap on my work gun, but found the beavertail large too big, especially at the web of my hand. The large beavertail wouldn't let me get as high on the backstrap as I wanted. Obviously everyones hands are different and to each their own, but the two different back straps definitely have a different feel.

Wasn't planning on using this upper/optic in 3gun. Just looking for a mid range SPR optic for an upper I have. Personally, I don't think the 2.5-10X32 or anything similar is a good choice for Tac division. As other's have mentioned, you will be much happier with a good 1-4X or 1-6X optic. My favorites are the original Meopta Kdot 1-4X and the new Vortex HD 1-6X. I tried the offset iron sights with a Trijicon TA11 in my early 3gun days and although the TA11 was nice at distance, I didn't care for the irons and didn't like the transition back and forth. My son shoots a Leupold 2-7X and an offset dot in Open div. and I think this is a much better place for this combo. In 3gun, the percentage of your shots are closer and the 1X on the low end is more important than the high end. True 1X with forgiving eye box and large fov is the ticket. 4X is plenty of magnification to hit a 10" plate at 400 if you know your holds. Looking forward to messing with the Vortex and its hold-over reticle. Love the smaller dot in the Vortex. Since we just got another 2ft of snow this week, it will be a while before I can give the Vortex a good text. In 7+ years of 3gun shooting the Meopta Kdot 1-4X has proven an awesome optic for targets 400 yards and in. I've actually decided to give one of the new Vortex PST 2.5-10X44 ffp optics a try for this SPR type upper I have. Should be available by spring. Good company reputation and warranty, matching reticle / turret, zero stop, ill ret and ffp for 1/2 the cost of the NF. Don't get me wrong the NF is awesome, but for my needs I'm hoping the Vortex will fill the bill and leave some $ in my pocket.

There is a CTR02 on gunbroker for $3800....lol.

Personally, I'd try a ball powder like H335 or Winchester 748 in a progressive press. Tac is a spherical propellant. I found that with the small case mouth, anything other than a ball powder wouldn't meter well in from my 550. My 550 drops H335 easily and gives consistent very velocities. Try some 55gr. Nosler ballistic tips or Hornady 55gr. Vmax to really see some accuracy. Consitently shoot submoa. Shot many 1.5" groups at 300 from my 3gun ARs (both 1:8 twist JP and DPMS barrels).

I'm at 26.2gr of H335 with 55gr. NBT. I have no pressure signs and have loaded thousands of rounds with this load with no problemo. Most accurate load I have ever tested. I'd start at 25grs and work up from there with any of the heads you listed. I also use no crimp, neck tension only. OAL is 2.240. 3033fps, 18" 1:8 twist bbl.

Thanks, but I realize that. You can input all your data into the NF Velocity reticle calc. The two loads I ran (known bc, velocity, enviro. conditions) put me within less than a 1/2 moa poa v. poi out to 600 on paper. I was looking for field experience with the reticle. Todd also suggested you can fine tune your poi by moving the scope between 9X and 10X. Not a sniper rig. This is a SPR rig and looking for fast elevation holds on 10" steel plates. Wind is another story, but the reticle assists with wind holds as well (as long as you can call it ).

In case anyone is interested, Todd (00Bullit) indicated the Velocity 600 reticle is right on @ 10X with 77gr. Mk262 and the 75gr. Hornady Superformance as well as several others.

Thanks!

No one?

I've been looking at the NF 2.5-10x w/ their Velocity 600 reticle for an SPR type upper I have. I fed their on line calc data for my .223 55 and 75 gr loads and the LV reticle seems right on. Anyone messed with one? Did u find the on line NF calc accurate? Feedback appreciated. Thanks.

Just an FYI for anyone who submitted a build to JP via their rifle builder and have NOT been contacted for order confirmation/payment. I placed an order for an upper on 12/31 through the builder and had not been contacted by JP. Sent off an email today and got a call from Mel. Mel told me they r hundreds of rifles behind and don't have the cust service folks to call everyone back. He also told me Chase Bank decided to stop processing their cc transactions because of what JP produces. They r working on a new cc company. Sooo, as of right now the only way to get in line is to print out your build from the rifle builder and mail it to JP with a money order or bank check for cost of your build. Once payment is in hand, they will put your build into the system and you get in line. Mel also said he is not quoting delivery dates. Can't tell you when your rifle or upper will be built / shipped. To clarify- the date you submitted your build with their rifle builder is not your date in line. You don't get in line until payment is received w/ a copy of your build. Sorry for the bad news but thought folks would want to know. Nick-

I hit a local gun show and many dealers had military surplus M1A mags. Mags were in great condition (some, like new). One dealer took the time to explain how to look for the mfg's. tiny stamping on the back spine of the mag. Bought (5) and averaged about $30/mag. They have all been great in my S/A M1A standard. Another option for you. Good luck, Nick- P.S. Tbis is my first M1A and OMG is it a blast to shoot. I'm bummed I never tried one before. I ran some Hornady TAP 168gr. AMAX though it to check accuracy and wow, I'm impressed. Always been a tac-optics guy and I was amazed what I could do with this rifle and how much fun it was to shoot. My son, an open shooter, was home from college and wanted to try the M1A. You should have seen the smile on his face as he was slamming steel. He kept saying, wow, these iron sights are geat...lol. I wish there was more heavy-metal matches close to me. Sorry for the thread drft.

I've ran 20, 18 and 16" JP rifles. The 20" JP15 for 4.5 years, a 18" CTR02 for about 2 years and a 16" JP15 upper for about a month. Loved the 20"!! Never felt the longer bbl held me back when runnin and gunnin and loved the stability of the full size rifle on the long range targets. The 18" was nice and ran great. That said, I didn't feel there was any real benefit over the 20". Some say the shorter gun is easier to manuever/transition in tight ports / areas, but I never had a problem with the 20" bbl. I also thought the weight of the 20" gun made it easier to steady/hold on longer targets from awkward positions. I hated the 16" upper. I would blow by targets on transitions and thought the rifle jumped around and was harder to hold on longer targets. My son's AR has an 18" dpms 1:8 twist bbl and a rolling thunder comp and a JP adj. gas block (rifle was a combo build by first Benny Hill and then JP). The rolling thunder comp combined with the JP adj. gas block is softer and flatter shooting than with the JP Bennie Cooley comp. Hope this helps, Nick-

Didn't see the match rules on the web page. Are you allowing one non magnified optic like an Aimpoint or Eotech on the limited division rifles or is it iron sights only? Thanks-

55gr Nosler Ballistic Tip over 26gr of H335 has shot lights out in every rifle I've tried it in including carbines.

I've got a couple of emails out to USO folks w/ some questions. Personally I like the concept and look of the reticle pics. Much cheaper starting point than any of the 1.1-8x optics that r coming out. Dealers may offer better pricing and I believe USO does LE pricing too. If the illumination is descent and all is as described I think it will fill a niche. We'll see.

Found this video on USO from CSTactical. 1/2 way through the video they show and discuss the new SN4 DFP. Shoot well, Nick -

Got an email on this from USO today and there is a thread on snipershide about it. http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2784548&page=1 The SH thread has reticle pics on page 6. From what I read, this is the same concept used In the new Leupold, S&B and Pemiere 1-8x optics. Basically a 2fp cqb reticle @ 1x and a precision 1fp reticle @ higher magnification. USO is applying their own twist to their SN4 1-4x and 1.5-6x optics. Don't know any more. Have an email into USO w/ questions. Thought some of you would find this interesting. Just passing it on. Nick - Quote: U.S. Optics the leading manufacturer in custom rifle scopes has listened to your suggestions and we are now offering the much awaited DFP (Dual Focal Plane) line of SN-4 scopes. With this new technology you are able to have a RFP (Rear Focal Plane) reticle that acts like a red dot sight with daytime visible lit reticle. The FFP (First Focal Plane) stays proportionate to the target at any magnification, this is useful for ranging and leading moving targets. In the 1-4X model, the 1X setting is truly 1X and allows for the merging of the sight picture and your free eye. This allows the operator to use the sight like a red dot in CQB mode, then turn the magnification to 4X for further engagements. We are also offering the DFP option on the 1.5-6X SN-4 as well. Our new push button lit reticle module offers extremely long battery life with the automatic shut off feature. Why spend the money to buy to optics when you can have it all in one package! _________________________

Heard back from Meopta. Apparently there r a limited number of scopes w/ this reticle problem and they are addressing it. Good C/S so far. N-

I bought one and it appeared to me that the chevrons under the dot were progressively drifted to the right. I leveled the scope and ran the reticle against a straight edge and the chevrons were not centered under the dot, IMO. The bottom chevron being the furthest to the right. I sent it to Meopta and got a quick call back confirming my observation. Unfortunately, he said all the other optics he had on hand appears to have the same issue w/ the reticle. The c/s rep was responsive and seemed to understand the problem.. He said he was going to test the reticle for poi and get with technical folks to investigate further. I've not heard back for over 2 weeks. Nick-

I think it will be close Kurt. I ran some quick numbers using a 55gr. NBT @ 3000fps. A rep at Meopta told me the reticle is designed for a 55gr. bullet and a 100m zero. Chevrons are poa/poi at 300, 400 and 500m. I don't know the velocity they used so my numbers may be off. However, using my NBT at 3000fps, this works out to roughly 4.5moa between the dot and the first chevron, 8.3moa to the next chevron and 13.4moa to the last chevron. If you plug in a 250yard zero you'd be 1.1moa high at 200 and 1.3moa low at 300. As the dot is 2moa you would essentially be on at 200 using the top of the dot and on at 300 with bottom of the dot. From there it would be: 1st chevron, 4.5moa = 397 yards 2nd chevron, 8.3moa = 490 yards 3rd chevron, 13.4moa = 589 yards Obviously folks would need to test this with their load, rifle, and at their location but it looks like it will be pretty close. A little more velocity will get you closer. If I'm way off here, someone please point it out. Just felt like messing with the numbers to see if Kurt's idea may work. Nick-

18" JP 1:8 bbl: 55gr NBT, 26.2gr H335, CCI srp, mixed brass, 3009fps avg. Factory 75gr Hornady TAP HP, 2648fps avg.

Just passing this on. No benefit to me. The new updated Meopta Kdot 1-4x24 is now out (this is the new ZD mdl w/ dot and chevron reticle, shorter tube, upgraded turret, etc. ) Was told this dealer just got (3) in. Price is $799 plus shipping. Other dealers will likely start getting some in. Nick- Dealer Contact Info- bryandover@hotmail.com Bryan Dover Hunter's Edge 111 N. Main Street Suite 106 Kirksville, MO. 63501 660-627-2277

Have owned both a JP15 and a CTR02. Both were 100% reliable and both were equally accurate (same 1:8 bbl on both rifles). If you don't need the "extras" you get w/ the CTR02, the JP15 is a hell of a rifle @ less cost.