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Try it tomorrow. I bought some and it wouldn't work so I waited a day and it worked. Maybe it was a fluke but it worked for me.

What's the details on your loads?

So I've loaded about 1000 in the last month month. 147 grn acme @1.115" w/3.7 gr WSF, mixed brass. I've kept all my failed to plunk rounds. After pre sorting brass to only use FC, WIN, RP, Blazer, Speer, PMC it seems that WIN fails the most. I don't know if I've had one Blazer or PMC not work. FC is really good too! RP seem to be almost as bad as WIN, which seem to fail about 40%. I'm going back to platted. I'm getting about a 10% fail to plunk when loading with this combo. I don't think I had more than one or two fail when loading platted. Seating the bullet deeper is just giving me fits! The RN Berrys/xtreme bullet profile doesn't require the shorter OAL and seems to pass plunk test way better. I'm convinced the problem is the case wall thickness and the deeper seated bullets. So, at the moment FC is probably my favorite. I'm also surprised at how many WIN cases give me problems.

I'd feel the same. I hope when I classify that I make expert. Anyone care to share where they're getting their direction on how to train? Which drills ? I've got some books but so far they seem to instruct on the fundimentals of shooting. I'm looking for something that has directions on drills. Thanks.

I meant I didn't want to practice and game it. I want to get classified! I want to classify as high as my current skill level allows. Then I want to work my arse off and get better!

I've never shot the classifier. Only been shooting IDPA for about 3 months. I shot a monthly match at a local club and had the best score. Guys were calling me a sandbagger. It was 6 stages. I had the best overall score on 3 stages. The closest score to mine was 25 pts. There were no master class and only one expert. I think I just got lucky. One guy said I should make expert "if I don't sandbag it". I've been hesitant to practice the classifier. Didn't want to getter a better score on paper.

Anyone else notice two different kinds of RP? I like FC, Win, PMC, Blazer, Speer HATE foreign crap!

Good shootin!

Link is not working for me.

There are so many CZ models out there. Is this "better" than the stnd shadow? Assuming this would be production/SSP legal? I guess for SSP you'd have to manually decock it. I've been wanting a shadow for a while now. I've read the description for the orange but it just says its basically got a fit barrel. How's the trigger? Can it be worked? Any reason to buy another model? Sorry for all the questions. Any input is greatly appreciated!

Gonna flip the insert around to the hollow end and shorten the OAL to 1.115" I think his will help.

My brass is pick up brass I bought off GB.

Thanks for the link! Got another question. For the Dillon seating die, and flat point bullets, do I use the rounded end of the wadcutter end of the seating insert?

I'm using all Dillion dies.

A couple more things I just thought of. 1. Press is a new 650 with about 600 rnds loaded. 2. Bench is sturdy and screwed to the wall. 3. I don't have this problem when loading plated at the longer OAL. 4. Also never had this problem with my 550 which is not on a sturdy bench. (Loading plated) So, at the moment I put the bench not being sturdy enough at the bottom of the list. I think it's either the cases having different wall thickness (top of my list) or the coating process leaving balls on the top of the flat point and that's causing issues with the ogive.

Thanks for the info! I see what you're saying. When measuring, they do seem to come out to the same OAL but I can see what you mean by the little bead of coating. I will shorten them to about 1.115". That's actually where I started out with these coated lead rounds. I didn't load up many at the 1.115" mark but I know I did have some that wouldn't case gauge. I still think it could be the case wall thickness. Like I said above, there seems to be inconsistency with the bulge (lack of a better world) caused by the base of the bullet when rotating the case. On one side of the round you can feel the base of the bullet but can't on the other side. To me, that's indicating thinner case walls on the sides where the base of the bullet is more prominent. Maybe due to being fired out of a Glock? Though, is case bulge a problem on 9mm glocks? PPU isn't known (to me at least) to be high pressure/velocity ammo.

I'm pretty sure it's not the OAL. Actually, I'm sure. I'm not having this problem with other rounds loaded exactly the same. It's the brand of cases that's giving me the problems. I have Win, FC, RP, Blazer, Speer loaded to the same OAL as the PPU, perfectas. Only the PPU/perfectas are giving me this problem. I still may shorten the OAL to give myself a little more buffer. I've gotten 1.130" to pass the plunk and twist but I think I start having problems around the 1.133" mark.

These bullets do not have a crimp groove (cannelure). I'm fairly confident my crimp is not too much. When I pull these bullets, there is no visible line from the crimp and ive checked to see if I was getting any setback. I'm not.

I may have not been clear. The ones failing are not failing because they're longer. They measure out to the same 1.125" (+\- .003"). I've personally verified that 1.130" will work but I shortened (set my searing die) to 1.125" to allow for any +.005 swing. I'm convinced it's the case wall/bullet profile. Now, I do wonder if seating to 1.115" will pass the problem area of these case walls and work better (i.e not bulge).

Thanks folks for the info. I guess I'm gonna have to sort thru my brass now. That or go back to Berrys. Never had this problem using those. Makes sense now. I'll probably go back to them. Between this and the slight puff of smoke, the $0.03 savings is t worth the extra trouble.

Gonna paint up some of the ones that failed and try this. I looked a little more at them. To me it looks like the cases aren't uniform all the way around. I can feel the bottom of the bullet in some spots more than others. Rotating the bullet and running my finger up and down, I can feel the base of the bullet in some spots and can't in others when I rotate the cartridge.

I loaded 200 rnds using the same bullet. (Acme 147 gr). Had 30 + that would plunk test(using my barrel on every single one). I understand the ogive is different between different thpes of bullets. I'm using the same bullet.

I did the plunk test. 1.125" works. I think it's an issues with the foreign cases. PPU, Perfecta, etc.. and the base of the bullets being set deeper in the case.

Ok I'm having some issues and need some help. I switched from Berrys 147(.356) gr plated w/3.9 WSF @1.15". To Acme LFN coated (.356) w/3.7 WSF @1.125" Crimp on both is about .377" I loaded about 200 rnds and had 30 that wouldn't plunk/case gauge. Mostly PPU cases but had several with other foreign cases. (I'm using mixed brass). When I put the calipers on these rounds they do not measure any longer OAL or crimp. I can't figure out why they won't case gauge? Is there something I'm not doing when switching from plated to lead? I had to adjust OAL due to the differences in profile of the bullets. Other than that I should be good to go. The crimp is coming out the same. Something is up, I wasn't having any problems with mixed brass (at least not this problem) with Berrys. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks.

What's your OAL?