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Big matches, always. Local matches, rarely. Had an extractor break during one string at the 2004 (I think) nationals. Ran to the car and grabbed my backup. Finished the stage. Killed my match but, $#% happens. Shot my carry rig the next day and had a lot more fun anyway.

One of the best M9 competitive shooters was Ernest Langdon. He won many national championships with his tuned SSP and ESP M9's. With a properly tuned the trigger it's a great platform, reliable etc... But it's a mistake to compare a DA/SA system side by side with a "Safe Action system". Personally I never liked DA/SA designed pistols. I always felt they were designed for people who cannot be trusted to keep their booger picker off the trigger.

2. The speed loaders in front of the holster must be within 1 inch of each other and the one nearest the holster must be within one inch of the holster. If the competitor chooses, he/she may wear one to three speed loaders/moon clip holders behind the centerline on the weak side for a total of three on the belt. 3. Competitors may mix carry methods (one in a pocket and one on the belt) but they must use the same method of carry for the entire match. Changing their carry method to fit the CoF will result in a FTDR. 4. The shooter may carry no more than two spare magazines or three speedloader/moon clips on the belt.

Procedural earned per the original post. If the intent were three shots in tactical sequence regardless of location it would have been worded as such. Whether intentional or not, procedural was earned. If I were SO'ing the stage and someone shot all heads I'd give them an FTDR.

As long as the gun is pointed down range I wouldn't care if he used the dropped mag or loose rounds. Did he do anything unsafe? Doesn't appear so. Why would I DQ or give him a procedural or FTDR for getting his gun back in the fight? It's not like he gained a time or score advantage. As the SO, you stay where the gun is. No harm, no foul.

Most places I've shot had designated safe areas where any ammo in mags or not is prohibited. It's a good rule. Only one MD in my experience ever addressed shooters arriving and leaving the range carrying hot. Claude Werner made it part of his regular pre match safety briefing. First question was always "Does anyone here have a loaded weapon on them?" You'd be surprised how many "new" and old shooters who might be hot by mistake. I was a sub MD one night and had a shooter who had shot before who chose to ignore "cold range" rules and come to the line with a loaded gun. One caught me by surprise once. Never happened again. The other great thing Claude did was to provide a lock box at the port-a-john so shooters could lock their empty gun up while they used the facilities at his state matches. People laugh but I've heard of people who dropped guns inside of those things. I'm sure it was fun retrieving that blaster from the blue goo. Food for thought for MD's out there.

Good points fomeister. This issues has been run to death already.

IDPA rules always apply. IDPA rules stipulate that when using low cover one knee must be on the ground. When in doubt ask the question. If the SO gives you the green light to squat, squat. It's still against the rules but if he clears it he shouldn't go back on his word after the fact.

Loves2shoot, It's a moot point. The only reason it's in ESP as it has since long before Springfield was involved has already been stated. The original documentation and info with the ATF. As much as everyone loves a conspiracy there just isn't one. Unless the ATF reclassifies the gun I don't think it will move. You never know. In the early days of IDPA there was consternation over the HK P7. It eventually ended up in ESP vs SSP.

Duane, Thanks for the clarification.

I agree. That's why I pointed out that mine is carbon steel vs stainless. Advantage or not it's obviously a significant mod to the weight of the slide. Whether it helps him or not is beyond the point.

My Kimber slides weigh in at 13.1 oz (carbon steel). An once may not make a difference to the average shooter but it may be significant to a MA level shooter. The rules are pretty simple. While it might have been done for "cosmetics" there's no question that a significant amount of steel was removed.

I would still say that the emergency reload is faster and less likely to be fumbled in the scenario described. I never worked on RWR in the past. Only Emergency reloads and tac reloads. I did start training rwr's more but the tac reload is so ingrained that I still have to think about doing a rwr in cof's where that is an advantage over a tac reload.

Can you explain this to me? Guess my math is weak.

Standard P220 stainless doesn't make weight for CDP. Ernie's wasn't a standard P220. If I recall correctly the frame (not the slide) had been lightened to make the weight limit.

= yawn

If I remember correctly he also would have gotten at least on procedural in that run. Starting from Surrender somewhere in stage one. Something else too but my memory fails me. Regardless, it's an impressive run.

or Ltd Vickers stages.

Guys! The reason it's changed is because there's been a huge amount of spam in the newsgroup. The only way to stop it is to make it a moderated group.

As Gary mentioned it's a trophy/plaque sport. So BFD. If there was real money on the line then I could see people caring. Otherwise it's another waste of bandwidth.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The recent "cures" have done more to damage the sport than fix it.

The only thing I don't really like about the SA's are the sharp edges and especially the radius of the frame to trigger guard angle. Kimbers have that high cut that I prefer. I have a couple of friends who recently bought STI Trojans which, so far run well. I just hate the cocking serrations and roll marks on STI's. If I were buying any SA 1911 I think I'd have to budget in a high cut and checkering of the front strap and knocking off all the sharp edges. With a Kimber, I'd only have to have the checkering done as the other two are stock features. You'll love shooting a 9mm 1911. There's so little recoil you feel like you're cheating.

There are a lot of other options that are less expensive than what you bought. It's not hard to find them. So the answer to your question is, they shouldn't and don't have to spend $74.95 to get into IDPA.

I was hoping to. Still up in the air. Too much going on lately on the home front.

I've shot hundreds and hundreds of rounds at steel with .223 and .308 at 25 yards and sometimes closer. There's a chance to pick up some shrap but I've never seen anyone take a richocet. Can't say I've shot slugs at that range but tons of bird shot. Of course rifle grade steel is a must.