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Appreciate the ideas Lee. I'll be familiarizing myself with the parts diagram this weekend and searching YouTube. Jason... I'll be hitting you up!

After several years on the M&P platform I decided to give CZ a go. I wasn't unhappy, just ready to try something different. Found out that the Shadow's are hard to come by so I started searching. I was pleased to come across a Shadow that sourced from CZ Custom. Trigger felt pretty darn nice when I looked it over, So... on closer inspection and after a couple of matches... I've noticed that something appears out of whack. As I depress the trigger for the DA pull, I can see the safety on the right side push out. After taking it down and watching the action, I can see the trigger bow move toward that side and it appears it pushes the right side safety out. After shooting about 600-700 rounds w/o cleaning I started to notice a visible drag on the trigger reset (unloaded in DA at home)... a lot. Looking for ideas on the right way to address the issue. I'm new to the platform so I'm not versed (yet) on taking it down to its smallest parts. No, I'm not going to sell it to you! Love the gun and digging CZ.

I shoot at the club I *think* your talking about. No way is NRA membership required there to shoot the USPSA match. Sounds like you ended up at range membership. Too bad... Arthur and his crew put on a really good match!

Auto-forwarding is not a faster way to reload from slide lock. I used to reload almost exclusively with the auto-forward. I started having problems with the no strip click outcome so I asked a well known M&P gunsmith if there was some way to fix this problem. He said he knew how to fix it but I wouldn't like the answer. He told me to quit seating the mags so hard so the gun would not auto-forward and use the slide stop. The real eye opener was the assertion that auto-forwarding was actually slower. Your support hand violently stops and then must reinitiate the motion up into the support position as opposed to the fluid smooth motion of a reload that is only firm enough to seat the mag. I know plenty of y'all will think this is BS but no one believes more than a convert. My reloads are smoother and faster and I'm also avoiding two possible negative outcomes... a) Not stripping a round and Losing time as I sit there looking at my gun out of battery because in this 1% case my brain so expected my gun to be in battery and it wasnt

1.15 with MG 124 gr CMJs on 4.1gr Titegroup

Don't see why the trigger kit would move a gun to ESP. Should be GTG for SSP if that is your bag.

"releasing the slide from the right side tab using my right thumb while seating a magazine is not 100% reliable" How so? Do you perceive that somehow it is worse from the left hand side than the right hand? You're definitely correct that an over the top release is slower. As far as slam charging your mags (per some of the other suggestions)... it just isn't a good idea. It's slower, you come to depend on it then end up looking silly with a gun out of battery when it doesn't drop, and sooner or later you'll probably have issues with slam charging not stripping a round and getting "click" when you pull the trigger. While I have heard of the occasional slide stop breakage, this is the first I've heard of a reliability issue with releasing the slide with the the slide stop.

Sooo, all of the folks who are using the adjustable rear with a .265" tall front are just making it up? Okay. No of course not. I was just extremely surprised that there were that many people that were running/suggesting that configuration. Perhaps there is some load combination or variances in production that result in .265 working. My personal experience is that I bought the .265 tall sight and at 25 yards everything grouped 4 - 6 inches high. I replaced with the .305 and all was well. After more careful reading on Dawson's web site I saw the .265s were intended for the fixed rears. It's all good and as always everyone should go with what works for them!

Wow... I'm almost in disbelief at the responses. I guess I'll just go ahead and add... IMO for the rest of this response. If you have the Dawson adjustables on your M&P Pro you need the .305 tall front sight. Period, end of story. Who cares what it looks like.

At this point... shoot whatcha got! Right now you are the major limiting factor and not the firearm. With more practice and experience... you'll know where/if you want to transition to. Don't let the crowd dictate your choice. Shoot what you are comfortable with and experiment outside the boundaries as time/finances permit. Welcome!

Understandable... If you've shot Glocks for a long time you probably have misshapen Quasi-Moto hands at this point. Once you're hands have reached this point a Glock is always the best choice!

Erik, I did send a second one up behind the squib. Unfortunately there was enough powder to get the bullet into the barrel, but not exit. The target I was shooting was almost at point shooting distance so I didn't have enough time to perceive the squib before I pulled the trigger the second time. Both bullets exited the barrel on the second shot (2 good hits on the target... lol). No injury and the gun held up remarkably well as only the barrel was damaged.

I did get the gun hard chromed. The trigger is an STI aluminum trigger. The work was not inexpensive because replacing and fitting a barrel... well it costs! I had him replace *some* of my trigger parts with new Cylinder and Slide trigger parts, trigger job, new barrel, fitted and contoured my EB ambi safety, new slide stop, and hard chrome for about 900.

I had a pretty nice STI Trojan in 40 S&W that I had a squib mishap with which resulted in a bulged/split barrel. I dropped it off at STI and had David Cupp fix it and tart it up a bit while he had it. I like.

You'll find enough anecdotal evidence to justify a decision either way. Both are reasonable choices for this class of gun. For most it comes down to what they shoot best. Those that have switched most often will cite that the M&P fits their hand better, points better, etc. The best advice I could give would be to try it out and if you like it... go for it. You'll be able to find vocal proponents and detractors for both. I run the M&P Pro with Burwell's standard trigger job with Dawson adjustable sights on it. I love it. My only issue with my M&P's has been the occasional slam charge that didn't strip a round. Dan Burwell convinced me to quit seating my mags so hard (causing this behavior) and the issue went away. YMMV... try it and see for yourself. Everyone is different. As an aside... I have no problems finding after-market parts and accessories. I think this angle tends to get waaaaay overblown. Mike

I liked the way the small insert felt in my hands but it tended to position my finger to far forward and I tended to get more into the trigger than I wanted. The medium insert seemed to more naturally let me get the position I wanted for pulling the trigger. Good luck!

For a while almost everyone who tried to replace their Pro front sight had to cut them out (I did)...they were in that tight. Smith may have corrected too far in the other direction. R, Same experience here w/ a 9L. That bad boy wouldn't be moved for nuthin'. It took me forever because I was so paranoid about cutting into the slide.

Goodbye ESP... nice knowin' ya...

You're in for a lifetime of fun... welcome!

When you come to a fork in the COF... take it.

How about identical long course all steel setups with competitors racing against each other. They could switch courses for a combined best of two like giant slalom skiing. It would be more like drag racing. Overhead camera views so both competitors could be viewed simultaneously.

Did you check the vids from today's match... stage 1 is *ahem* edited.

Paul, I agree 100% with this statement. If you truly want to improve your skill and overall match performance, you've simply got to stop changing guns every month. Please step away from the Classified page - pick one gun and stick with it. Consider this an "Intervention" from a friend! Doug if he does that my supply of good cheap guns will be gone. He needs to keep stimulating the economy. Just kidding well not totally the open gun I bought from him is awesome, now that I've done some work to it. Paul you should see it now it has a new TR-Cote finish in Midnight Blue. I've been on the same road with you, but I think to the more extreme, I've had 7 open guns in two years. But I'm learning to step away from the Classifieds. DON'T encourage him with thoughts on how beautiful that open gun looks!!!

I prefer single mag pouches... more specifically the Comp-Tac single mag pouches with the Tek-Lok attachment. The Blade-Tech's configured similarly run a very close second IMO.

This is grossly inaccurate characterization. I've seen more than one post here implying that there is some "old fart" mentality that is choking off the sport because we don't think shooting a .22 as part of an IDPA match is a good idea. Why do people assume that kids can't shoot a 9mm or larger caliber is beyond me. We've got several junior shooters at our club and the one common denominator I see is a father who will take the time to teach their child what they'll need to know to shoot IDPA. We even have a junior girl. Here's a video of one of her stages in her very first IDPA match. Junior IDPA Shooter And yes... that's my daughter. Her very patient and helpful SO is none other than Steve J. Every single shooter in our club has been nothing but helpful and encouraging. No one has suggested not to run a match that allows .22s. Go for it, let people shoot what they want, score it however you want... just call it something else. Why will calling it IDPA help the future of any club?